In a bit of a crisis here...need help! - YorkieTalk.com Forums

sushidoodidoo · 09-15-2009, 07:48 AM

I live in a building that only allows two dogs (and of course nobody needs to know about the cats, right?). But I have 4 dogs(and 2 cats). Although I only walk them two at a time, maybe sometimes three. And I figured since they are teeny tiny, noone will care anyways. I mean honestly, all four of them put together are not even the size of the head of one of the dogs that some people have here in the building.

Even the management had seen them all together, and didn't really care. Until they called me the other day and told me that "some people" from the building have complained that I have "three" dogs, and I am only supposed to have two. Can't people just get a life and get their nose out of people's business? And it's not like they complained about my dogs being a nuisance or anything, just the "number" of the teeny dogs bothers them!!!! Whatever.

Anyways, they said they have no choice but to send me a letter and ask me to rectify the situation, I should respond to that letter with another letter, they will present the letter to the boars, and the board ultimately needs to make a decision.

Since they said I have "three", I have decided to send Sake (my 8 month old morkie puppy) to Montreal to stay with my parents for now, and in the mean time I deal with the remaining three, my argument being that Missy is a 14 yo rescue with failing kidneys, she has been given 6months to a yeart to live (it's sad, but true!), and maybe they let me be. And the reason I picked Sake out of the four is:
1- I have a better chance if I keep missy here as one of the three dogs.
2-Sake is a bit loud and I don't want them to find a "noise complaint" and use it against me.
3-My sister who lives with my parents (she's in college) absolutely adores Sake, and always favors him, and I know he will be even more spoiled when he's there.

Anyways, it's not a fun situation right now, and my life has turned upside down.

The help I need from you guys is any tips on how to ship sake to Montreal safe and sound:

My boyfriend is flying to Montreal and taking Sake with him. I have flown with Sushi and Mr. Big many many times before. They just go in a bag under the seat, and they just stay there all the way, without a peep! They are pretty good, and totally used to flying. but Sake is different: he is hyper and loud, has never been in a bag/cage, or a flight, and I'm sure he will be barking and crying all the way. So I thought we should send him to the baggage, but he will still be upset and barking all the way. Is there any thing i can do to make the flight less traumatic for him? Maybe any meds? It's only a 1hr flight.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

lovespandp · 09-15-2009, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by sushidoodidoo

I live in a building that only allows two dogs (and of course nobody needs to know about the cats, right?). But I have 4 dogs(and 2 cats). Although I only walk them two at a time, maybe sometimes three. And I figured since they are teeny tiny, noone will care anyways. I mean honestly, all four of them put together are not even the size of the head of one of the dogs that some people have here in the building.

Even the management had seen them all together, and didn't really care. Until they called me the other day and told me that "some people" from the building have complained that I have "three" dogs, and I am only supposed to have two. Can't people just get a life and get their nose out of people's business? And it's not like they complained about my dogs being a nuisance or anything, just the "number" of the teeny dogs bothers them!!!! Whatever.

Anyways, they said they have no choice but to send me a letter and ask me to rectify the situation, I should respond to that letter with another letter, they will present the letter to the boars, and the board ultimately needs to make a decision.

Since they said I have "three", I have decided to send Sake (my 8 month old morkie puppy) to Montreal to stay with my parents for now, and in the mean time I deal with the remaining three, my argument being that Missy is a 14 yo rescue with failing kidneys, she has been given 6months to a yeart to live (it's sad, but true!), and maybe they let me be. And the reason I picked Sake out of the four is:
1- I have a better chance if I keep missy here as one of the three dogs.
2-Sake is a bit loud and I don't want them to find a "noise complaint" and use it against me.
3-My sister who lives with my parents (she's in college) absolutely adores Sake, and always favors him, and I know he will be even more spoiled when he's there.

Anyways, it's not a fun situation right now, and my life has turned upside down.

The help I need from you guys is any tips on how to ship sake to Montreal safe and sound:

My boyfriend is flying to Montreal and taking Sake with him. I have flown with Sushi and Mr. Big many many times before. They just go in a bag under the seat, and they just stay there all the way, without a peep! They are pretty good, and totally used to flying. but Sake is different: he is hyper and loud, has never been in a bag/cage, or a flight, and I'm sure he will be barking and crying all the way. So I thought we should send him to the baggage, but he will still be upset and barking all the way. Is there any thing i can do to make the flight less traumatic for him? Maybe any meds? It's only a 1hr flight.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

I'm sorry you have to deal with that! People are so annyoing arent they..Like your little family is hurting anyone..

I know of ACEPROMAZINE- this is a sedative (normally used as a pre-med) and should calm him down. You can get it at the VET, ususally you have to get a little exam and tell the Vet what's going on and he will give you a pill for the flight, I have seen soo many people use this when flying. I also have seen the dogs take this pill and have seen no negitive things come out of it.

chattiesmom · 09-15-2009, 08:41 AM

I agree about a sedative - talk to your vet and see what he/she suggests.

yorkie_mama22 · 09-15-2009, 09:16 AM

I see your in Toronto. I am in Windsor and I know there is a city bylaw that states two dogs per household. You may have a hard time convincing them but perhaps it may work. Personally I wouldn't put myself into a situation like that again and I definitely wouldn't be getting any more dogs because what will you do if they do not accept what you have to say and give you an eviction notice? Many rental places don't want dogs, especially more then one. I know even as far as Chatham is the 2 dogs per household so I think it may be all of Ontario? Unless you can apply for a kennel licence or something that allows more dogs. Sorry your neighbors are being jerks. I know someone who just had this problem and had to rehome two of four dogs. It is a sad situation!

sushidoodidoo · 09-15-2009, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by yorkie_mama22

I see your in Toronto. I am in Windsor and I know there is a city bylaw that states two dogs per household. You may have a hard time convincing them but perhaps it may work. Personally I wouldn't put myself into a situation like that again and I definitely wouldn't be getting any more dogs because what will you do if they do not accept what you have to say and give you an eviction notice? Many rental places don't want dogs, especially more then one. I know even as far as Chatham is the 2 dogs per household so I think it may be all of Ontario? Unless you can apply for a kennel licence or something that allows more dogs. Sorry your neighbors are being jerks. I know someone who just had this problem and had to rehome two of four dogs. It is a sad situation!

Actually City of Toronto by-law is up to three dogs (up to 6 pets). But the condo by-law where I live is two dogs. I have been trying to find out which one is a stronger by-law, the City or the condo, but apparently it's a grey area. I guess I'll just have to wait and see what they say.

yorkie_mama22 · 09-16-2009, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by sushidoodidoo

Actually City of Toronto by-law is up to three dogs (up to 6 pets). But the condo by-law where I live is two dogs. I have been trying to find out which one is a stronger by-law, the City or the condo, but apparently it's a grey area. I guess I'll just have to wait and see what they say.

Hmm I think the condo by law may be stronger because it is a "condo" and they can have their own rules. Around here condos have NO PETS rules and they are strict.

Since T.O has three dogs per household, I would think that your claim of your one girl being older may be effective then. If you explain the situation that she isn't going to be around much longer and you are just trying to make her last months comfortable. They may accept it on a temporary basis.

star28c · 09-16-2009, 04:44 PM

huh funny you mention about people minding their own business someone
in my complex was jealous about my yorkie and reported it too my manager
and i got a letter its been brought too ower attention. you have a dog living with you i just got coby on the first of sept
my god i havent had time too even bring my paper work of my puppie too the manager
because coby was sick well someone reported it anyways my manager charges 50 for one dag on puppy added on too the rent this makes no sense to me but i under stand and agree people need too mind their own business and im sorry i can't be of any help but i really wish you and your dogs the very best this is very sad indeed

143julz · 09-16-2009, 05:16 PM

When management saw you had three dogs, did you confess you "owned" them or are they assuming you do? If not, how can they proove that 3 live with you? Couldn't you just be "sitting" for the extra dog at the time your neighbor's saw you with them?
I'm sure there is nothing in your contract or condo association "laws" that state you can't care for or have visiting dogs at any given time?

Good luck with that, and i agree, with others, you can get a lite seditive or Benadryl for the flight...

BanditSocks2 · 09-16-2009, 05:25 PM

Good luck. I think the route you are going with using the failing health is a good way to proceed. Make sure you have a letter from your vet too so they know how serious you are. Most people have a soft spot for a sick pup...especially if it will be a 'temporary' situation. Good luck, and maybe start looking into alternative housing in the meantime. We moved from our apartment and bought a townhouse and our dog (now dogs) couldn't be happier!! And no condo or apartment rules to follow...woohoo!

HERBS · 09-16-2009, 05:50 PM

This is so sad! Basically, it all boils down to dog owners who allow their dogs to destroy the home VIA eating on the wall corners, pee/poop on carpet, and damaging the property. Maybe you couldinvite the owner to your home and show the condition it is in and that your babies are well behaved. Explain you are having a difficult mental time dealing with the passing of one within 6 months and cannot bare to be away from the other during this time in your life and appeal to his human side. I would try this first and use your sister as your last option. JMHO

sushidoodidoo · 09-18-2009, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by HERBS

This is so sad! Basically, it all boils down to dog owners who allow their dogs to destroy the home VIA eating on the wall corners, pee/poop on carpet, and damaging the property. Maybe you couldinvite the owner to your home and show the condition it is in and that your babies are well behaved. Explain you are having a difficult mental time dealing with the passing of one within 6 months and cannot bare to be away from the other during this time in your life and appeal to his human side. I would try this first and use your sister as your last option. JMHO

I own the apartment. It's the CONDO that has these stupid rules!!!!

Two dogs only (and I actually have four, but after Sake leaves, I will have only three. So either way unfortunately one has to go, and I will fight for the other three, using the health issue)

I said to the manager: would you rather see me walk around the hallways with two huge bullmastifs than three tiny little squirts that all of them put together are not even the size of the head of one of those bigger dogs? She tried the "my hands are tied" game with me. Anyways, I am going to write the letter and see how it goes. Sake is going to Montreal this sunday, and I will be left with the other three dogs . Gonna miss Sake :'(

Thank you all for your posts and your support. Means a lot to me.

This last week has been really tough for me, knowing that I'm sending my baby away, and won't be able to see him for a while! I've been kissing him and holding him tight in my arms all day and night, but it's getting tougher and tougher as we get closer to Sunday :'(

RachelandSadie · 09-18-2009, 08:18 AM

our city laws state no more than 2 dogs and 4 cats per household! that's really weird to me that they can regulate people's personal homes, this isn't even apartment living, it's just the whole city. but i have one and only want one for now, someday i'll move to the country and fill up my whole backyard with big dogs and keep little Sadie in the house with maybe one other dog. i want another Golden Retriever someday

sushidoodidoo · 09-21-2009, 10:13 AM

I finally sent my little boy away last night. I am so so heartbroken. Last night was so incredibly hard to sleep without him stuck to my side and his head on my pillow. And today is going to be so incredibly difficult to go home without him jumping up and down for me.

I know he's in good hands, he cuddled with my sister all last night. And this morning went for a nice walk with my mom. They have a nice backyard where he can run around and play with my parents' dogs (they have a yorkie mix and a shih tzu). I know it's silly to be sad. I can go see him whenever I want, he is only 6hr drive away. Then why am I so so sad???? It almost feels like I let him down. Or did I let myself down? They said he sat behind the door for the first couple of hours, hoping that I would go and get him, but then he gave up after that and went and slept in my sister's bed. It killed me when they told me that.

We took some photos of him before he went away.....

lovespandp · 09-21-2009, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by sushidoodidoo

I finally sent my little boy away last night. I am so so heartbroken. Last night was so incredibly hard to sleep without him stuck to my side and his head on my pillow. And today is going to be so incredibly difficult to go home without him jumping up and down for me.

I know he's in good hands, he cuddled with my sister all last night. And this morning went for a nice walk with my mom. They have a nice backyard where he can run around and play with my parents' dogs (they have a yorkie mix and a shih tzu). I know it's silly to be sad. I can go see him whenever I want, he is only 6hr drive away. Then why am I so so sad???? It almost feels like I let him down. Or did I let myself down? They said he sat behind the door for the first couple of hours, hoping that I would go and get him, but then he gave up after that and went and slept in my sister's bed. It killed me when they told me that.

We took some photos of him before he went away.....

Aw I am sorry about all of this. I have been where you are and it does hurt!! Dont be hard on yourself about it.. You found him a great home and you can see him. You didnt let him down!!

I had to rehome one of my yorkies..2 months later I went to go visit that lil terd and I thought he was going to be excited to see me..well he was more excited to see Peanut!!! He came up to me after and kissed me but I dont think he cared much lol he looked so happy at his new home and he is very spoiled!!

sushidoodidoo · 09-21-2009, 10:27 AM

Thanks for your post. I really hope he adjusts well.

My sister just called and told me that he is sitting on her lap and eating broccoli!

She said she got him a couple new toys and a new sweater. She will email me photos tonight

09-15-2009, 07:48 AM	#1
sushidoodidoo YT Addict Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 298	In a bit of a crisis here...need help! I live in a building that only allows two dogs (and of course nobody needs to know about the cats, right?). But I have 4 dogs(and 2 cats). Although I only walk them two at a time, maybe sometimes three. And I figured since they are teeny tiny, noone will care anyways. I mean honestly, all four of them put together are not even the size of the head of one of the dogs that some people have here in the building. Even the management had seen them all together, and didn't really care. Until they called me the other day and told me that "some people" from the building have complained that I have "three" dogs, and I am only supposed to have two. Can't people just get a life and get their nose out of people's business? And it's not like they complained about my dogs being a nuisance or anything, just the "number" of the teeny dogs bothers them!!!! Whatever. Anyways, they said they have no choice but to send me a letter and ask me to rectify the situation, I should respond to that letter with another letter, they will present the letter to the boars, and the board ultimately needs to make a decision. Since they said I have "three", I have decided to send Sake (my 8 month old morkie puppy) to Montreal to stay with my parents for now, and in the mean time I deal with the remaining three, my argument being that Missy is a 14 yo rescue with failing kidneys, she has been given 6months to a yeart to live (it's sad, but true!), and maybe they let me be. And the reason I picked Sake out of the four is: 1- I have a better chance if I keep missy here as one of the three dogs. 2-Sake is a bit loud and I don't want them to find a "noise complaint" and use it against me. 3-My sister who lives with my parents (she's in college) absolutely adores Sake, and always favors him, and I know he will be even more spoiled when he's there. Anyways, it's not a fun situation right now, and my life has turned upside down. The help I need from you guys is any tips on how to ship sake to Montreal safe and sound: My boyfriend is flying to Montreal and taking Sake with him. I have flown with Sushi and Mr. Big many many times before. They just go in a bag under the seat, and they just stay there all the way, without a peep! They are pretty good, and totally used to flying. but Sake is different: he is hyper and loud, has never been in a bag/cage, or a flight, and I'm sure he will be barking and crying all the way. So I thought we should send him to the baggage, but he will still be upset and barking all the way. Is there any thing i can do to make the flight less traumatic for him? Maybe any meds? It's only a 1hr flight. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. __________________ Proud mommy to: Sushi(Yorkie)Mr. Big(Maltese)Missy(ShihTzu)Zero (Chihuahua)KitCat(Himmy)Casper(Tabby) Last edited by sushidoodidoo; 09-15-2009 at 07:51 AM.

09-15-2009, 08:41 AM	#3
chattiesmom Donating YT 10K Club Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Alabama Posts: 17,674	I agree about a sedative - talk to your vet and see what he/she suggests. __________________ Silk Step-In Harnesses www.foxypups.etsy.com

09-16-2009, 04:44 PM	#7
star28c No Longer a Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Norwood Ma Posts: 495	huh funny you mention about people minding their own business someone in my complex was jealous about my yorkie and reported it too my manager and i got a letter its been brought too ower attention. you have a dog living with you i just got coby on the first of sept my god i havent had time too even bring my paper work of my puppie too the manager because coby was sick well someone reported it anyways my manager charges 50 for one dag on puppy added on too the rent this makes no sense to me but i under stand and agree people need too mind their own business and im sorry i can't be of any help but i really wish you and your dogs the very best this is very sad indeed Last edited by star28c; 09-16-2009 at 04:48 PM.

09-16-2009, 05:16 PM	#8
143julz Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Largo, FL Posts: 1,294	When management saw you had three dogs, did you confess you "owned" them or are they assuming you do? If not, how can they proove that 3 live with you? Couldn't you just be "sitting" for the extra dog at the time your neighbor's saw you with them? I'm sure there is nothing in your contract or condo association "laws" that state you can't care for or have visiting dogs at any given time? Good luck with that, and i agree, with others, you can get a lite seditive or Benadryl for the flight... __________________ Dudley Doo and Dexter too!!! RIP (12/93-10/08) MY LIL JULZ!!!

09-16-2009, 05:50 PM	#10
HERBS Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Winston Salem, NC USA Posts: 241	This is so sad! Basically, it all boils down to dog owners who allow their dogs to destroy the home VIA eating on the wall corners, pee/poop on carpet, and damaging the property. Maybe you couldinvite the owner to your home and show the condition it is in and that your babies are well behaved. Explain you are having a difficult mental time dealing with the passing of one within 6 months and cannot bare to be away from the other during this time in your life and appeal to his human side. I would try this first and use your sister as your last option. JMHO __________________ *LORI "CRAZY DOG LADY"* *Basil Nugget, Sir Theodore Thyme, and Isabella Rosemary*

09-15-2009, 09:16 AM	#4
yorkie_mama22 Currently Suspended! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 2,275	I see your in Toronto. I am in Windsor and I know there is a city bylaw that states two dogs per household. You may have a hard time convincing them but perhaps it may work. Personally I wouldn't put myself into a situation like that again and I definitely wouldn't be getting any more dogs because what will you do if they do not accept what you have to say and give you an eviction notice? Many rental places don't want dogs, especially more then one. I know even as far as Chatham is the 2 dogs per household so I think it may be all of Ontario? Unless you can apply for a kennel licence or something that allows more dogs. Sorry your neighbors are being jerks. I know someone who just had this problem and had to rehome two of four dogs. It is a sad situation!

09-16-2009, 05:25 PM	#9
BanditSocks2 YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Crofton, MD, USA Posts: 1,522	Good luck. I think the route you are going with using the failing health is a good way to proceed. Make sure you have a letter from your vet too so they know how serious you are. Most people have a soft spot for a sick pup...especially if it will be a 'temporary' situation. Good luck, and maybe start looking into alternative housing in the meantime. We moved from our apartment and bought a townhouse and our dog (now dogs) couldn't be happier!! And no condo or apartment rules to follow...woohoo!

09-18-2009, 08:18 AM	#12
RachelandSadie No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 5,748	our city laws state no more than 2 dogs and 4 cats per household! that's really weird to me that they can regulate people's personal homes, this isn't even apartment living, it's just the whole city. but i have one and only want one for now, someday i'll move to the country and fill up my whole backyard with big dogs and keep little Sadie in the house with maybe one other dog. i want another Golden Retriever someday

09-21-2009, 10:13 AM	#13
sushidoodidoo YT Addict Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 298	I finally sent my little boy away last night. I am so so heartbroken. Last night was so incredibly hard to sleep without him stuck to my side and his head on my pillow. And today is going to be so incredibly difficult to go home without him jumping up and down for me. I know he's in good hands, he cuddled with my sister all last night. And this morning went for a nice walk with my mom. They have a nice backyard where he can run around and play with my parents' dogs (they have a yorkie mix and a shih tzu). I know it's silly to be sad. I can go see him whenever I want, he is only 6hr drive away. Then why am I so so sad???? It almost feels like I let him down. Or did I let myself down? They said he sat behind the door for the first couple of hours, hoping that I would go and get him, but then he gave up after that and went and slept in my sister's bed. It killed me when they told me that. We took some photos of him before he went away..... Attached Thumbnails __________________ Proud mommy to: Sushi(Yorkie)Mr. Big(Maltese)Missy(ShihTzu)Zero (Chihuahua)KitCat(Himmy)Casper(Tabby)

09-21-2009, 10:27 AM	#15
sushidoodidoo YT Addict Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 298	Thanks for your post. I really hope he adjusts well. My sister just called and told me that he is sitting on her lap and eating broccoli! She said she got him a couple new toys and a new sweater. She will email me photos tonight __________________ Proud mommy to: Sushi(Yorkie)Mr. Big(Maltese)Missy(ShihTzu)Zero (Chihuahua)KitCat(Himmy)Casper(Tabby)