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12-19-2009, 11:12 AM | #1 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Englewood CO
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| New owner question~ one of many I just got a yorkie pup Thursday I was told he was a micro mini and they are rare, well he is tiny barely 2 pounds. He was born 04/11/09 well my husband got decided he needed one so he got Honda born 05/13/09, well when I picked him up I asked them, if he was nutered, I mentioned I didnt care but needed to know, they said no, I asked 3 times because he has NOTHING down there, now he is 7 months old, shouldnt he have some by now? Cash does, but not Honda. I am taking them both into the vet Monday morning, one because it is smart, but the contract states you have 2 days~ I do not agree with that, but they need their rabies shot, I also noticed Honda was de wormed 6 times, 3 with the normal stuff they use and then 2 different types after that. He also has a weird sounding cough, not all the time but once in awhile, he still hasnt touched his food that they claimed their dogs eat, and here is the kicker, Cash was brought out to me I had no choice of dogs, I fell in love no biggy, but when my husband went to pick his dog he got a girl, well she just didnt work in this house, I have a 11 year old shep mix in the first stages of heart failure, so he just lays around, he loves Cash but the girl was tormenting both boys, Cash is a micro, she would come up and grab the back of his neck everytime he went to eat or drink, she would get mean nasty, not playing around, Cash started to hide and then she went for Lobo, he is a 85 lbs dog that has been head of household for 10 of his 11 years, she stood up and stared him down, would bite at his back legs, not a happy home when she came in, so I called and asked to please exchange for a male, well they did but I was told THEY will pick the dog, well I got no nuts with a cough and was wormed 6 times. Im worried, that they know something isnt right...... |
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12-19-2009, 11:29 AM | #2 | |
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First there is no such thing as a micro mini yorkie. Second, they did not let you see the parents Third they did not let you visit with and choose your own puppy. Fourth your dog has a cough. The smartest thing for you to do is to take the puppy back and find a reputable breeder, that does not sell "micro minis, that will invite you to see the parents and how they were raised and let you visit with and take your time choosing a puppy. A normal sized puppy. It could be that the reason your puppy has no sign of testicles is because he is not 7 months old. Many of those breeders sell younger puppies, telling you they are older so you believe that they are "micro minis" | |
12-19-2009, 11:34 AM | #3 |
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12-19-2009, 12:54 PM | #4 |
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| On the paperwork it says NO REFUNDS at all, I thought about contacting my bank and get a charge back and telling them if they want to start something I will expose them, the one without his testes is with the Untied all breed registry which i found out is really fake, by AKC standards. Basicaly its a micro chip place with a fancy gold seal, but they have themself as his owners, the other puppy's paperwork is left for me to send in as owner, so i think they know something was wrong, why did they reg him then sell him. And the "micro" he told me he was going to breed him because they are rare, but he decided not to, and i should consider myself lucky to have gotten him. |
12-19-2009, 05:20 PM | #5 | |
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Tiny yorkies are all over. They are not rare. Many people on here have them. See what your vet says about the tresticles. he will be able to feel them if he has them. But it is possible they are retained and that it why they decided not to breed him. | |
12-19-2009, 05:35 PM | #6 |
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| I definitely would see what your vet says and if they lied to you about his age I would contact your bank and do a chargeback.
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12-19-2009, 07:53 PM | #7 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Englewood CO
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| I got them from QueenYorkies-Palace.com, they are local here in Colorado, he told me that his micro minis went for 2500 and I was lucky yo get him because they was going to breed him but decided not to. His testes are OK, its the second I got a few days later, the place they use to reg their dogs is United all breed registry and pedigree service, this one the testes have not dropped at all, and this one they have him reg back to them like they was planning on breeding him but due to his lack of "balls" I guess they decided to dump him, the "micro" I paid 550, the second one I paid 500 but he said he was listed at 1500. Like I said I wasnt allowed to PICK my puppies, they made the choice for me. I have a vet appt Monday morning, I did speak with him on the phone and he told me that it sounds like his testes have not dropped and should have by the time he hit 3 months, so he needs to have surgery, it will not be your normal neutering, it is called a Cryptorchid neuter, because i guess they are retained and could be caught on something or wrapped around something. So I will get this in writing and take it back to them, they claim they have been breeding for over 25 years. I asked her 3 times if this was ok that his "balls" have not dropped or was he already neutered. She said its fine, his date of birth is 05/13/09. Also he was wormed a total of 5 times, 3 using pyran, the 4th time panacue and the 5th time pyrantel. My micro was given a extra shot called bronichine indy tac? I think that is how its spelled. Im already attached to these little guys, but I think these people maybe a puppy mill of sorts. Go to their web site, they ALWAYS have dogs of all ages ready to be sold, normal costs are 1500 to 2500, they said I have no idea what a great pedigree I got in these dogs and for so cheap. I got a feeling the vet bills are going to add up quickly. |
12-19-2009, 08:02 PM | #8 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Englewood CO
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| I have the microchip papers, and the date of birth on both puppies are on all the paperwork along with the micro info, so the mini is 04/11/09 the tea cup no balls is 05/13/09...The tea cup also has a honking cough, Im wondering if its that issues yorkies have a Tracheal collapse. I swear if I find out I got taken, I will take it to the news and to who ever else I need to so others do not get sick dogs. I was told she will pick my dog for me, I had no choice.. |
12-19-2009, 08:05 PM | #9 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Englewood CO
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| Oh the web site is QUEENYORKIES-PALACE.COM you can also find them by Queens yorkies, or yorkie palace. I guess they had another shop in Golden that burnt down, they have since moved to Lakewood |
12-19-2009, 08:10 PM | #10 | |
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See what the vet says about the age, the health and the cough, and also about the testicles, and take it from there. | |
12-19-2009, 08:13 PM | #11 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Englewood CO
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| The tea cup has to have surgery, its called cryptorchid neutering, his testes could be wrapped around something, or stuck behind something. Why would they need to de worm him 5 times? Pyran 3 times, panacue once, then pyrantel once. And what is bronichine indy tac 3? The micro got that, its on his health record, |
12-20-2009, 07:44 AM | #12 |
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| Oh goodness, It sounds like you were taken advantaged of with these two. As much as you love them I would probably give them up to a yorkie rescue and take the loss of 1,000$ what you paid. I would see what the vet says but it sounds like this situation isn't good. May I ask how come you would agree to let them pick your dogs out for you? I would be shaking my head and walking away before someone would tell me THEY got to pick the dog I was going to have for the rest of their life? that sounds to me like they picked the ones with the problems to drop off on you. As mentioned there isn't such a thing as a micro or mini or teacup. These people are pathetic. |
12-20-2009, 12:37 PM | #13 |
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| You keep referring to them as teacup and micro, there are no such yorkies. Those people sold you a lie. Yorkies come in all sizes. The standard is 7 pounds or less. There is no special category for small ones and they are definitely not rare. Every puppy mill has lots of them. If those dogs were worth what they claim to sell them for they would not have sold them to you for $500. They are worth what you paid for them. I do not see the need to turn them over to a rescue. If you love them then no need to get rid of them. The type of surgery that you are talking about is more expensive than a regular neuter, but I doubt that they are going to pay for any of it. I'm guessing the reason they did not allow you to pick your own is because they did not want you to see their living conditions. If they have that many puppies then they are definitely a puppy mill and those poor animals are born into deplorable conditions, to mothers who have never been outside of their cages, many of them crippled, toothless, and parasite infested. If you did not hear barking, chances are the parents have all been cruely debarked, by hammering a metal rod down their throats. Good luck with your puppies. It sounds like the one has kennel cough which will need to be treated before it turns into pneumonia. |
12-20-2009, 12:50 PM | #14 | |
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By the way there is really no such thing as a micro mini or a teacup yorkie. Go to the AKC website and read the standard. The Yorkshire Terrier is a Toy Breed......I think you got taken advantage of....... The shot he was given was for Kennel Cough....Kennel Cough should be given intranasal. The two types of deworming was for tapeworm and the 2nd for other parasites. More than likely you did get your pups from a Puppy Mill.....
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12-21-2009, 07:20 AM | #15 |
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| Please let us know what the vet says today. |
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