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09-12-2009, 02:49 PM | #1 |
No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kansas City, MO
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| Anyone using First Shield Trio from Banfield for flea and tick? Anyone else using the new stuff Banfield is offering called First Shield Trio? It has dinotefuran, pyriproxyfen, and permethrin in it! Please let me know if you use it, have heard of it, have good or bad experiences with it. Thanks, Rachel |
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09-12-2009, 04:24 PM | #2 |
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| still need help on this....Sadie threw up last night and i'm wondering if anyone else had this reaction or knows anything about this medicine |
09-12-2009, 06:30 PM | #3 |
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| we've only used frontline for our pets and i've never heard of this one. hopefully someone else can help! |
09-12-2009, 09:32 PM | #4 |
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| never heard of it and would never use it as most use frontline plus and we see a dermatologist and that is what she recommends only - if your dog threw up on it I would not ever use it again as she had a reaction and usually the second reaction is always much worse |
09-13-2009, 04:46 AM | #5 | |
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I would be very careful at Banfield. Not only do they recommend things that aren't necessary (ie, lepto, corona etc) - but they develop things under there own brands and then try to sell it to you. I don't treat for fleas here, but if I were you - I'd listen to those who do treat for it and have researched it.
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09-24-2009, 04:11 PM | #6 |
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| FirstShield Trio I don't have a yorkie, but I did use the Firstshield on my small dog. I don't normally take the time to post a response but I felt this very necessary. I have used this product once a couple of weeks ago and again tonight. I am almost at the point of taking my dogs to the emergency vet, I don't remember them having this reaction the first time. They are acting lathargic and dont want to move. I will never use this product again and would strongly recomment no one else either. |
09-24-2009, 04:32 PM | #7 |
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| If you feel your dog is not tolerating the medication you apply to their backs, give them a good bath using Dawn dishwashing liquid. That is the first thing they do here when you take your dog in with a reaction to topical flea preparations. Dawn helps remove some of the product, hopefully helping to reduce the reaction. Then get the dog to the vet.
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09-24-2009, 04:51 PM | #8 | |
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I don't have anything on the specific product your using.......All I have is some info on Permethrin and pyriproxyfen....... Permethrin is a neurotoxin insecticide.Permethrins are synthetic pyrethroids that are more stable and last longer. It works by disrupting the nervous system of insects, killing by contact or ingestion. The EPA classifies it as a carcinogen ,it causes lung cancer and liver tumors in mice. Permethrin is indicated as a possible carcinogen by the EPA, causing liver enlargement and cancers in lab. mammals. It is embryotoxic in rabbits, and causes liver damage in mice. "Pyrethroid toxicity targets nerve and muscle cells in pets, according to a study published in The Veterinary Journal in June 2008. The study found that dermal exposure by application to the skin or coat is the most common route of toxic exposure, potentially causing hyperexcitability, tremors, profuse salivation, and seizures. The seizures can result in brain damage or, less frequently, death. The EPA approved the company's pyrethroid spot on treatments just as it has approved all spot on treatments, but the agency has a history of approving pet products in the past only to pull them from the market later Carcinogen: liver and lung tumors Organ damage: kidney enlargement, changes in the lung Neurotoxin: tremors, incoordination, elevated body temp. increased agressive behavior, learning disruption Reproductive: fertility affected Autoimmune: bone marow changes in lab. animals But they are also linked to thousands of reported pet poisonings, and they have stirred the ire of pet owners, the concern of veterinarians, and the attention of regulatory agencies. At least 1,600 pet deaths related to spot on treatments with pyrethroids were reported to the EPA over the last five years, according to an analysis of EPA pesticide incident exposure data by the Center for Public Integrity. That is about double the number of reported fatalities tied to similar treatments without pyrethroids, such as Frontline and Advantage -- although these products also have critics. Pyrethroid spot ons also account for more than half of "major" pesticide pet reactions reported to EPA over the last five years -- that is, those incidents involving serious medical reactions such as brain damage, heart attacks, and violent seizures. In contrast, non-pyrethroid spot on treatments accounted for only about 6 percent of all major incidents. Pyriproxyfen An active: sterilizer Reproductive:reduced weight gain, toxicity to pups Long term studies, needed to understand the chronic effects of the pesticides, are few and far between by comparison. Chronic diseases such as cancer,immune suppression, developmental or reproductive damage and DNA damage can take months or years to manifest. The cumulative effect and potential damage from continued use of one specific pesticide product or multiple products over a dog's lifetime is unknown. Cumulative effects of chemicals in products are not required to be tested by the EPA before the product is made commercially available.
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01-23-2010, 06:53 PM | #11 |
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| I do not have a yorkie, and my small dog seems to have been unaffected buy the first shield. But my 6 month old spaniel who is already 48 pounds has been throwing up all night, has diarrhea, horrible gas, and is very lethargic. I want to thank you for all the posts about your side effects and the suggestion about the dish soap. The emergency vet also suggested bathing him and if he is still lethargic in a few hrs they want us to come in. I will never use this flea med again, we're going back to advantix next month. I just wanted to make sure anyone searching for this would know that this is a problem for all sized dogs and to stay away from this stuff. |
03-19-2010, 08:10 AM | #12 |
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| I have a chihuahua. I googled can a dog throw up from using first shield and found this. First of all, I am glad to know I am not the only one. I called Banfield and they said they have never heard of vomiting from it. I don't want to take him in, and pay lots of money. This isn't the first time though. This is his first time using first shield. But previously, he was using vectra. They said that first shield is a branch from vectra. My dog threw up every single time I gave him vectra too. I thought it was because he was consuming it though. I didn't know how to put it on. I was putting it too low, and I would catch him turning his head around to lick it off. This time I put first shield on his head, behind his ears and around his collar. There is no way he was able to lick it, and he is still throwing up from it. It has to be some sort of side effect. I don't know of anything else to try. What else could I use on him? I want something that protects from fleas and ticks. He is also shaking a lot. It seems like he is trying to shake his head until it comes off or something. Someone please tell me what to do. He kept me up all night throwing up. |
03-19-2010, 08:19 AM | #13 |
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| Is he shaking to get it off or shivering? With those kinds of symptoms, he may have to be seen. Banfield is just not a great place.
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03-19-2010, 09:46 AM | #14 |
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| I don't think he is shivering. Even with vectra, he used to roll around on his back. But he can't do that on his head. |
04-04-2010, 08:38 AM | #15 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Upper Marlboro, MD
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| I have used first shield trio for the first time on Friday since banfield recommended it. I haven't seen any problems in my yorkie but will post later with result of how well he took it or if he has had a problem with it... |
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