Bark Bark! Do the control devices work????

[teffiemoore]

Has anyone ever used any of the bark control devices??? The collars, the sound frequency devices ect. I am desperate to find something that will help with the four of them barking...we are living above our business and anytime a customer comes into the office, pulls up to the front ect. they go nuts until they leave......please any input would be appreciated....sigh

[MyAngelChester]

I'm new to YT and this is my first post. I too am having trouble with the constant barking. Duncan is my 2nd Yorkie and I purchased him when he was a little over 1 year old from a back yard breeder who no longer wanted him. He's the sweetest little boy but barks obssessively. It drives everyone in the family crazy! I had Chester, my first York, for 12 years and raised him from a pup. I never had this issue with him so I'm at a loss as to how to help Duncan. He seems to have a lot of OCD issues. Any suggestions on how to help with the barking would MUCH appreciated! :-)

[romeos mommy]

i have a barker too. i haven't tried any device yet.

[kalina82]

I've seen the citronella collars work wonders. Shuts them up real quick LOL it doesn't harm them in any way, just gives them a spray in front of the face to startle them plus it smells bad to them. i'd definitely try this collar first.

[ARCHIE]

When Buddy was a puppy I had the same problem. I would not use a citronella collar on any dog I owed. I think it's cruel.
I did buy two other devises that did not work.
The only thing that did was the cheapest. Put coins in a can and be
consistent. When the dog barks at an innopropiate time shake the can and firmly say No Barking!
You must do this every single time the dog barks when he is not suppose to.
It works wonder's in a couple of days. The dog has to put the shaking of the can(noise) with his barking. Leave the can on a table so he can see it.
Believe me you will be amazed in a couple of days but you must be consistant.

[kalina82]

Originally Posted by ARCHIE

When Buddy was a puppy I had the same problem. I would not use a citronella collar on any dog I owed. I think it's cruel.
I did buy two other devises that did not work.
The only thing that did was the cheapest. Put coins in a can and be
consistent. When the dog barks at an innopropiate time shake the can and firmly say No Barking!
You must do this every single time the dog barks when he is not suppose to.
It works wonder's in a couple of days. The dog has to put the shaking of the can(noise) with his barking. Leave the can on a table so he can see it.
Believe me you will be amazed in a couple of days but you must be consistant.

Hi Carol. Just curious, why do you think its cruel? it is in no way harming the dog. Its just used to startle them. The pennies in a can method is great if you are around to correct the behavior. I only suggested the collar because she said she was downstairs in her shop and not right there to correct them. The collar may work better this way to stop the barking because she cannot be right there to startle them with a harsh sound.

[Yorkieluv]

Everyone has different opinions on this topic, but I don't believe citronella collars are cruel in any way. It doesn't actually spray them..It sprays out of the collar, and it is not toxic in any way. Mostly, it's done to startle them. The sound of the spray and the distinct smell of citronella deters them from barking. If a person is not there to correct the behavior, I believe this collar is a good one.
It just startles them, the same way that pennies in a can do, or the same way that using a water spray bottled does.

[ARCHIE]

Originally Posted by kalina82

Hi Carol. Just curious, why do you think its cruel? it is in no way harming the dog. Its just used to startle them. The pennies in a can method is great if you are around to correct the behavior. I only suggested the collar because she said she was downstairs in her shop and not right there to correct them. The collar may work better this way to stop the barking because she cannot be right there to startle them with a harsh sound.

My reason for stating that was because I did read up of those collar's
when looking for help in correcting the barking. From the article I read
it stated the spray would spray them in the face, thus startling them.
I know the smell of citronella, having used candles to keep the bugs away and it's not a pleasant smell. I did not want my dog smelling like that. To be sprayed in the face with this, to me,
is cruel when there are other options available. I know it does not hurt them but it just wasn;'t something I was interested in. The other way takes
being consistent and having patience on the owner's part. Perhaps some
don't have the time or the patience to be consistent. I know you can't be with them 24/7 but in the time it takes for them to realize the can/noise/bark
goes together you will have a barkless dog in a couple of days. He will not
bark when your not home once he's learned. Leave the can on the table
where he can see it. Once he's made the connection he dosen't know the
can can't shake itself. He just does not like the sound it's going to make
if he barks.
It worked wonder's for Buddy. A YT'er suggested it to me and I am very
thankful. Like anything else, it's a matter of preference I think.

[Erin]

For what it's worth, I know someone who spayed the citronella at herself to see how bad it was and she was fine. I recommend the spray cans for people rather than pepper spray because if your dog gets mixed up with the other dog you don't want to spray your own dog with pepper spray! Plus, if you get back spray in your face it won't hurt you.

There are other techniques you can use to cut down on barking, but if you are going to use a collar the citronella is a million times better than a shock collar.

[kalina82]

Originally Posted by ARCHIE

My reason for stating that was because I did read up of those collar's
when looking for help in correcting the barking. From the article I read
it stated the spray would spray them in the face, thus startling them.
I know the smell of citronella, having used candles to keep the bugs away and it's not a pleasant smell. I did not want my dog smelling like that. To be sprayed in the face with this, to me,
is cruel when there are other options available. I know it does not hurt them but it just wasn;'t something I was interested in. The other way takes
being consistent and having patience on the owner's part. Perhaps some
don't have the time or the patience to be consistent. I know you can't be with them 24/7 but in the time it takes for them to realize the can/noise/bark
goes together you will have a barkless dog in a couple of days. He will not
bark when your not home once he's learned. Leave the can on the table
where he can see it. Once he's made the connection he dosen't know the
can can't shake itself. He just does not like the sound it's going to make
if he barks.
It worked wonder's for Buddy. A YT'er suggested it to me and I am very
thankful. Like anything else, it's a matter of preference I think.

A co-worker has a rottie that barks and barks every time she brings him to work. She got a citronella collar for him and he's quiet now. he's learned that when the collar is on, he needs to be quiet. I can see why you don't prefer it because yes sometimes it will spray them in the face instead of in front of their face. It also smells alot like lemon pledge and i wouldn't want my dog to smell like that either. LOL thank god morgan never barks

[Yorkieluv]

I can see how you would think it's cruel if it actually sprayed them in the face...That would be cruel to spray citronella in the face.
These collars do not spray them in the face though, they spray out.
It's definitely a matter of preference
I agree that other methods should be explored first.

[ARCHIE]

Originally Posted by Erin

For what it's worth, I know someone who spayed the citronella at herself to see how bad it was and she was fine. I recommend the spray cans for people rather than pepper spray because if your dog gets mixed up with the other dog you don't want to spray your own dog with pepper spray! Plus, if you get back spray in your face it won't hurt you.

There are other techniques you can use to cut down on barking, but if you are going to use a collar the citronella is a million times better than a shock collar.

Shock collar! Who in their right mind would even think to use such a thing on a Yorkie or any other toy dog? Would anyone think to put either on a baby
so it would not cry? It takes time and patience to train your dog.
Don't IMO look for the easy way out. That's just cheating and being lazy.
If your going to have a well trained pet it is you who has to do the work.
In the end you will be proud you put the time and energy into it.

[Erin]

Originally Posted by ARCHIE

Shock collar! Who in their right mind would even think to use such a thing on a Yorkie or any other toy dog? Would anyone think to put either on a baby
so it would not cry? It takes time and patience to train your dog.
Don't IMO look for the easy way out. That's just cheating and being lazy.
If your going to have a well trained pet it is you who has to do the work.
In the end you will be proud you put the time and energy into it.

Hey I wasn't suggesting a shock collar! People who use those things either got bad advice from a bad trainer or don't know any better, or like you said want to take the easy way out. I didn't go into my lecture about how pinch, choke and shock collars make your dog WORSE not better. Usually when I suggest things like the gentle leader, etc. people aren't interested in taking the time to work on it. Victoria Stillwell's show has a great example of how to get your dog to stop barking at the doorbell or whatever - keep a leash on them and whenever they bark, take them out of the room and don't let them back in until they calm down. Repeat 100 times and your dog will get the hint. However, most people want to do something twice and have it work, which is not how good training happens.

Anyway I was just answering the question "The collars, the sound frequency devices ect." and I was referring to the etc. in case the OP was thinking shock collar. To clarify - DO NOT use a shock collar on any size dog, especially puppies of any kind. Basically here's what happens: Person walks by. Dog barks. Dog gets shocked. The dog now thinks that the pain was caused by the person walking by.

And yes, I remember someone on this board a long time ago complaining about not being able to find a shock collar small enough for their dog so people do think it.

[dundeemax]

I find it comforting that Max will bark if someone is at the door. He also barks to let me know if he wants out to go potty, not all of the time, but most of the time. If he wants something that is not in the same room as he is, he will bark and show me. Or if he wants a drink.

Okay, it is pretty annoying when he barks, just to have me play with him, but I don't think I'd like him to be quiet all the time. I don't believe that dogs don't communicate by barking, because he does communicate by barking.

Max is only a pup, but we are starting to understand each other. I mostly know what he wants, and I think he is going to be a good little alerter.

He's 9 lbs lol.

[For My Coby]

When Coby learned to bark, we used pennies in a can. Worked perfectly. But after a while, that lost its effectiveness. We moved to a spray water bottle. That worked great. After a while, it lost its effectiveness. We now use one of the electronic sound devices that is push button (not automatic). It has been working great. We have been consistent with each method and each method has worked for months before losing its "appeal". So my suggestion is to try one at a time with consistentency and see what works.

I love my baby, but to me personally, a Yorkie's bark is not exactly music to my ears.