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01-10-2014, 07:40 AM | #1 |
YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: King County, WA
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| "Crab Bait" is headed to the vet today. He slept most all of yesterday, had a fair appetite but not what we have learned to be normal for him. We skipped his walk since he seemed under the weather. Last night, this morning, he had some breathing issues, it's like occasionally he can't breathe through his nose. He breathes through his mouth and it's almost a look of terror in his eyes when he has these episodes. So Robyn popped him with the inhaler per the vets previous direction and we'll be at the vets when they open at 9am. He's had this condition since we first got him to varying degrees. When we first got him 8ish months ago he was on antibiotics for about a month. We're going to try to get his dental evaluation done also today and hopefully his dental work will be done by next week. His nasal discharge when he sneezes is clear so if it's an infection, it's certainly not as bad as when we first got him. He is such a stronger dog than when we first got him. Then, 1/4 mile wore him out....now, it's 3 miles. He'll recover from this ailment. My hope is that by having his teeth thoroughly taken care of, his nasal issue will be a thing of the past for the most part. Best guess, 10-12 years old, 5ish pounds. I've only been here at YT for a month. Your information has helped to some degree in this mornings decision to rush him to the vet for his nasal issue and finally do what needs to be done with his teeth. Robyn is a cancer survivor who has not returned to work, my work is sort of seasonal or intermittent. |
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01-10-2014, 07:50 AM | #2 |
YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Massachusetts/Florida
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| Prayers for your little Crab Bait. I hope they find out the cause. Sometimes not knowing is worse than actually knowing. If you know whats wrong, you can at least treat it accordingly. Well wishes being sent your way!
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01-10-2014, 08:21 AM | #3 |
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| Good luck to you & Crab Bait.
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01-10-2014, 09:03 AM | #4 |
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| sending many prayers.
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01-10-2014, 09:08 AM | #6 |
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| Praying for Crab Bait...
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01-10-2014, 09:09 AM | #7 |
Resident Yorkie Nut Donating YT 20K Club Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Texas
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| Hope that all goes well for him. He might have an oronasal fistula which should be repaired by a dental specialist. Since money is funny, maybe it is something that could be put off but yes, the teeth should be taken care of. The problem with those fistulas is that they can aspirate when eating, so I personally would want my pup repaired. Keep us posted!
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01-10-2014, 10:25 AM | #9 |
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| Hope that all goes well ,at the vet.
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01-10-2014, 10:46 AM | #10 |
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| I am keeping Crab Bait in my prayers and sending positive thoughts.
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01-10-2014, 12:05 PM | #11 |
YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: King County, WA
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| Thank You ALL! The bad news is, the vet said due to his noisy lungs that even after this new course of antibiotics he would have less than 50% chance of survival if he was put under anesthesia for dental work. She was very confident that x rays and blood work would not change that diagnosis or survivability of anesthesia. He does have arthritis as well. The good news is, his temperature is normal, 101.6 and he has a strong heart. He's still eating and drinking plenty. When we got him he was 4.6 pounds, today, 8 months later he's 5.3 pounds. He didn't seem at all lethargic at the vets. He's not fat, his muscle tone is good. She recommended a non anesthetic dental cleaning. Essentially, the teeth that are ready to fall out, fall out during the cleaning, is our understanding. Due to his age and condition, extractions are highly discouraged. If we insisted on extractions or anesthesia for our dog, we would have to go to a different vet since they recommend against it. They do not want to hasten his demise. He is old, possibly older than 12. So, no walks for the next few days, a week, for him. He's scheduled for the non anesthetic dental cleaning, 21 Jan. He is always kept inside except to potty and go for walks. When he has good days, he'll go for a walk. When not such good days, he'll stay at home. Same as it's been for the last 8 months. We'll just keep him as active and comfortable as possible. When we got him, I felt that good food coupled with exercise would increase his perkiness. It has helped his stamina and muscle mass/tone, so he has been able to walk further. As to his spunkiness around the house, I think it's helped just a little. He is still as attentive and loving as the day we got him when he is awake. LOL He sleeps a lot more than I. LOL I'm not asking for any advice on this one... For the most part, he's comfortable. It's just these occasional nasal/bronchial episodes that worry us a bit. The vet has spoken. He's old. |
01-10-2014, 01:01 PM | #12 |
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| I understand that you do not want advice and I DO understand opting not to do a dental on an older pup; but I don't think you should block your mind that way. We should always be open to learning. What does concern me greatly is the non anesthetic dental. I really am surprised that your vet would suggest that for a pup with "noisy lungs" whatever that means. Did you get a diagnosis on that? I really, really hope you will take the time to read about the non-anesthetic dentals. You don't have to take anyone's advice, but we would all be remiss if we did not offer you things that some of us are aware of. It is also for other people who come along and read these threads. Personally, I would do a consult with a board certified dentist...none of them want dogs to die during dentals and sometimes it really is necessary to avoid them; but unless you do a consult you would never know. I had a pup years ago who simply had to take antibiotics in his last two years because he was such a high risk. Anyway....here is a link about the non-anesthetic dentals. My biggest concern with your pup is that the vet is concerned about the lungs yet is willing to do a procedure that is very high risk of aspiration. Dental Scaling Without Anesthesia | AVDC - American Veterinary Dental College
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01-10-2014, 07:24 PM | #14 | |
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So sorry to read about Gucci's teeth issues...but Ladyjane is right & she has a lot of experience w/older pups going through dental cleanings & teeth pullings. Those loose teeth NEED to come out & anesthesia free cleaning can't do it. Dental health is so important, I believe it will prolong their life. I think vets sometimes say they can't do it if they're not comfortable w/doing it themselves...please ask to be referred to a specialist, get a 2nd opinion from people that specialize in high risk patients.
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01-10-2014, 07:29 PM | #15 |
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| Oh I am sorry he's feeling down...I realize at his age you don't want to do anything that will or could harm him. That being said, getting an opinion from an actual dental specialist may not be a bad idea. Then you can make an educated decision for him. My thoughts, my prayers are with him...hoping all turns out well...which ever way you decide to proceed.
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