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12-04-2005, 08:51 AM | #1 |
Donating Senior Yorkie Talker | Help Please ! I neede some serious help here and I hope someone can offer it up to me. I have 5 Yorkies and over the past 6 weekis all but one has been hospitalized with HGE.....The last one was just last week. At the time she was hospitalized the vet put all of the others on a course of Flagyl to try and prevent recoccurances even though this is not supposed to be contagious. LAst night I had to rush one of the others to the ER vet again...bloody diarreaha,throwing up, lethargy and no eating. Forced down some Pedialite which just came right up. He is now back in hospital, protien to high borderline dehydraytion after only a few hours. Last time I waited about 12 hours and 2 of them were on deaths door. Now I know to rush them right away to ER vet. Costs run between $900-1000. for each confinement. ( I live in NY) Does anyone know anything about this ? Stormy |
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12-04-2005, 08:53 AM | #2 |
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| I'm sorry that I don't know about this but I guarantee someone here will! I hope your babies are ok ;( We will be thinking of you! |
12-04-2005, 09:09 AM | #3 |
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12-04-2005, 09:55 AM | #4 |
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| Check this thread for info about HGE and related illnesses: http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24320
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12-04-2005, 02:44 PM | #6 |
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| Im so sorry that your babies are sick. I will keep them in my thoughts and prayers. |
12-04-2005, 02:48 PM | #7 |
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| Okay I feel really stupid, but what is HGE? I hope your babies feel better, and I'm sorry I'm not much help. Keep us updated
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12-04-2005, 03:06 PM | #8 | |
Donating Senior Yorkie Talker | HELP Please ! Quote:
Thank you so muchfor your thoughts and prayers. | |
12-05-2005, 04:38 AM | #9 |
Yorkie Kisses are the Best! Donating Member | Oh wow - I hope they ALL get to feeling better - how scary for you - please let us know how they all are ? are the 2 really sick ones better ? I copied the information so others will see it too in case someone else is experiencing this - The last line is very important to hear for anyone who may be going thru this also - BEST OF LUCK to you and I hope you get thru this with no loss of any of your yorkies lives HGE or HEMORRHAGIC GASTROENTERITIS is particularly dangerous to the toy and smaller breed dogs, although dogs of all ages and breeds can be affected by it. Fever is not usually present in HGE. Signs of HGE usually begin with a very sudden onset of acute vomiting, anorexia, followed by severe bloody diarrhea, dehydration and depression, They progress rapidly, become severe within hours ( usually 8 to 12). The blood may be bright red (fresh blood) or dark (digested blood). The symptoms start with vomiting, lethargy, refusing to eat, and progress to mucous covered stools, loose stools, severe diarrhea and bloody diarrhea. Dogs affected by this condition get very sick, very fast. Any kind of bacterial diarrhea can quickly dehydrate a dog, and the tinies are at greater risk, as they have little weight to lose before they are dehydrated and need IV rehydration. Your dog can get infected anywhere. Then it can be from 2-10 days after exposure, that your dog can come down with this problem. Just as there are no specific tests for HGE, there is no established cause for the illness. HGE is most common in toy and miniature breeds of dogs, ages 2 to 4, but can affect any breed, gender and age. The blood count of affected dogs is frequently characterized by an elevated red blood cell count. Most normal dogs have red blood cell counts of 37-55%, while dogs with HGE may have red blood cell counts well above 60%. The elevated red blood cell count provides the veterinarian with an important clue that the dog may have HGE. At present, the exact cause of this disease is unknown. There are many theories -- diet, a bacterial infection or bacterial toxin, virus, reaction to an intestinal parasite, etc. -- but nothing has been proven. Stress may play a role in the development of HGE. Dogs that have an episode of HGE may be prone to another occurrence. Many dogs never experience HGE. The main treatment for HGE is intravenous fluid replacement to restore hydration. If intravenous fluid therapy is not given, the dog's red blood count will continue to elevate due to dehydration. Eventually, the blood may become so thick that the flow through the blood vessels gets very slow. If this happens it is possible for the dog to get a potentially fatal clotting disorder called, disseminated intravascular coagulation (DIC). Once this happens, it is often irreversible and may result in death for the animal. In some cases it is necessary to give plasma to correct loss of protein and antibiotics to combat the suspected Clostridium infection, or blood transfusions may be needed if blood loss is severe.. In a few dogs, it is necessary to give fast acting cortisones to counter shock, which is a problem due to the very rapid onset of dehydration in dogs with HGE. It is generally necessary to totally restrict oral food and water for one or two days when treating this problem. This makes hospitalization necessary for several days for most dogs with HGE. Relatively large doses of fluids are usually needed to replace fluids lost into the intestinal tract and to reverse shock, if present. Fluids are continued as long as the diarrhea persists. Antibiotics are used because many times bacteria may be a causing factor. Most animals with HGE recover fully with prompt treatment. Recurrences are possible, but they are not common. Since the cause of HGE is not completely understood, at present no known preventive measures exist - DO NOT waste time, especially with the tiny toy dogs , as they do not have the spare fluids to lose thru diarrhea, especially bloody diarrhea |
12-05-2005, 11:37 AM | #10 |
Donating Senior Yorkie Talker | Thank you for your Help,People Thank you for sending me the links to the information posted re: HGE. Was shicked to thee my exact story posted by someone else but sure am appreciative of all this information. Stormy |
12-05-2005, 08:28 PM | #11 |
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| If your dogs are not related so that this HGE can be tracked back in their lines, and genetics are not an issue, the only 2 things that would be is that the cause of the HGE is indeed contagious or all of the babies are eating the same toxic substances that cause HGE.. I hate having a Yorkie with HGE--they scare me to death....Keep us informed about their progress...and prayers for your babies are being said... |
12-07-2005, 01:43 PM | #12 | |
Donating Senior Yorkie Talker | HELP..Please ! Quote:
Ooohhhhnoooooo this is even more scary. No, my dogs are not related at all. Not the ones that have been haveing the HGE problem. I really appreciate your information but do you have have any idea what it could be in the house ? Yes, I am scared to death....I have spent a fortune on their Vet bills in the past few months and I am simply terrified that eventually I will lose one to this. They are all young Yorkies. The oldest is 3 and the others are just a year old. Thanks so much for your response, and as of this moment they all seem to be fine....BUT..it comes on so quickly and is so devestating.... STORMY | |
12-09-2005, 02:48 PM | #13 |
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| HGE is so scary! My yorkie boy never had it but rather my 60 pound other furbaby has had it twice - the first one so severe I never thought she'd pull out of it. I never ever want to see that again it was horrifying. Both times Delilah got it around the same time of year, I was convinced it was something from the yard. I still watch her closely even though I've since moved out of fear of how very fast and severe it was. Edited to add - I don't think there is any way to prevent it, I was told there isn't a known definitive cause of it. I watch poops, appetite and pink gums closely, as I remember each of those being a bit off, and her gums stark white by the time she was rushed to vet. IV, antibioltics, and added potassium in the IV drip is really what I believe stopped her heart from failing. Jeni Last edited by DMorgan; 12-09-2005 at 02:52 PM. |
12-09-2005, 03:04 PM | #14 |
Donating Senior Yorkie Talker | HELP..Please ! Thank you for writing....yes, that is exactly it and I have now had a total of 6 episodes over the past 2 months. Thankfully I did not lose one of my babies which is all that matters to me but it has been a horrendous experience and I am totally terrified of it happening again and again. We have now disinfected the entire house with clorox...maybe that will help. Sigh.....so fast and so deadly.
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12-20-2005, 05:03 PM | #15 |
Donating Senior Yorkie Talker | Happy Holidays To All Yorkies And Families
__________________ STORMY Smokie,Bandit,Oliver,Katy and Frosty.Misty at the bridge :-([/COLOR] Wolf, my heart dog passed 2/6/10 |
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