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Sterlingsmom · 05-04-2010, 03:23 PM

Hi, I'm back and having problems getting Kia to eat.....She is now on 25mg of metotadine per week for the next two weeks, then back in for more testing, in the meantime she slowed down on eating right after her 25mg pill and now, 8 days later, is refusing to eat, she is still drinking fine. I'm wondering if I should give her a prednisone, call the vet or just take her to the vet. She is not lethargic, is actually showing some personality now! Any suggestions? Should I go with the pred as it is now 4:30pm and then take her in tomorrow? Cushings is awful and the lady that had her and DID NOT TREAT HER should be whipped. (sorry, just makes me mad as Kia is sooo sweet -weighing in at 3 1/2 lbs now- and as cute as a bugs ear!) Also, any thoughts on us changing her name? Would it be too traumatic as she has had the same name for 9 years?

kalina82 · 05-04-2010, 03:28 PM

I'd call the vet and ask about giving her the pred.

kalina82 · 05-04-2010, 03:35 PM

Just read your previous posts about Kia. God bless you for taking her in and treating her Cushings. You are doing a wonderful thing for her.

Sterlingsmom · 05-04-2010, 03:44 PM

Our Vet has said to use the pred when/if I think we need to....

mojo · 05-04-2010, 05:09 PM

Then yes, I would give her the pred. My dog has addisons and she takes pred every other day. I think she will feel better if you give it to her.

Sterlingsmom · 05-04-2010, 06:43 PM

I gave her the pred, it's only 1/4 of a 5mg tablet.....I just really worry when she doesn't eat...thanks so much for replying....she is so small..

Wylie's Mom · 05-05-2010, 08:22 AM

Thanks for updating on Kia

. And once again, bless your heart.

If I were you, since Kia is so new to her Cushings treatment, I'd probably phone the vet - describe the symptoms and ask if the pred should be given. Loss of appetite, shaking, vomiting can all be signs that the treatment is going too far (cortisol *too* low) and pred is now needed - but Mitotane can also mess w/ appetite, so it can be a tough call.

Oh, oops - I see you gave her the pred already. How is she doing? Is her appetite better?

Hugs to Kia, would love to keep hearing about her.

Theodore · 05-05-2010, 08:28 AM

When Ted was on Prednisone, the one thing the docs forgot to mention was that you just can't stop giving it, you have to wean them off slowly; thank God for this place or I'd never known that and really messed him up. I hope your baby feels better and has a big meal!! Read up on the Prednisone just to be safe when you stop giving it. xo

Sterlingsmom · 05-05-2010, 08:33 AM

Hi! OK, I just talked to the vet, she told me I did the right thing giving her the pred, it's not much, but then Kia is not much either! She finally ate at about 9 last night. This morning we are back to it, she's not hungry and today is the day she gets her mitotane again, last time she got it was one week ago, the dose is 25mg. oh groan.....why is this happening.....alright, I'm going to think positive, Kia has been on an antibiotic, she desperately needs every single one of her teeth pulled, hopefully we can get that done next week. I am madly in love with this tiny girl, her little personality is finally coming through and she is just a nut! She loves to tease and play! She has a very quiet little bark and at times she will come and bark right at me! Thanks so much for all the help and yes, I'll keep all of you posted on her..

Wylie's Mom · 05-05-2010, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Sterlingsmom

Hi! OK, I just talked to the vet, she told me I did the right thing giving her the pred, it's not much, but then Kia is not much either! She finally ate at about 9 last night. This morning we are back to it, she's not hungry and today is the day she gets her mitotane again, last time she got it was one week ago, the dose is 25mg. oh groan.....why is this happening.....alright, I'm going to think positive, Kia has been on an antibiotic, she desperately needs every single one of her teeth pulled, hopefully we can get that done next week. I am madly in love with this tiny girl, her little personality is finally coming through and she is just a nut! She loves to tease and play! She has a very quiet little bark and at times she will come and bark right at me! Thanks so much for all the help and yes, I'll keep all of you posted on her..

That is just wonderful to hear her little personality is blossoming with your TLC

. No surprise there!

So glad to hear she ate, good news. But not hungry again this morning, darn. What if you sprinkled some Parmesan cheese on her food, can you try that? Of course, you also don't want to mask (too much) if her cortisol is too low. Is her next ACTH Stim not for awhile yet? I'm wondering if, after the Mitotane loading dose, she is now needing a decrease in her maintenance dose..even less than she is getting now? So hard to say...

Or, did vet go straight to maintenance dose w/ her and skip loading dose?

Sterlingsmom · 05-05-2010, 09:16 AM

No, we did the loading dose, we are going to do the stim test (AGAIN) next week, she wants to do that first and then depending on how that turns out hopefully do her teeth. I'm just wondering if her teeth hurt so much that she doesn't want to eat? I've NEVER seen such bad teeth and her breath smells so bad that we actually gag, seriously. It's very hard to hug her and kiss her, we have to hold our breath. I just don't get it, she is so small and so adorable, her little face is to die for, how could someone let this happen? I'll put her picture up on this thread....I also have a little tiny guy, Sterling, that my kids got me, they paid huge $ for him, he's a little tiny guy, 4lbs, and he is my life! He goes in for checkups regularly. I'm totally devoted to Sterling and now of course Kia also. They are just so cute together!! I'll try the parmesan!!

Sterlingsmom · 05-05-2010, 09:20 AM

I'm aware of the pred and not to just go cold turkey with it....thanks!

BonBon · 05-05-2010, 09:29 AM

Kia sounds so precious.

I missed your first thread, so I just went back and read it. Kia is a lucky, lucky little girl to have found you. Thank you for loving her and giving her the care she needs! We'd love to see pictures of her.

Welcome to YT!

Wylie's Mom · 05-05-2010, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Sterlingsmom

No, we did the loading dose, we are going to do the stim test (AGAIN) next week, she wants to do that first and then depending on how that turns out hopefully do her teeth. I'm just wondering if her teeth hurt so much that she doesn't want to eat? I've NEVER seen such bad teeth and her breath smells so bad that we actually gag, seriously. It's very hard to hug her and kiss her, we have to hold our breath. I just don't get it, she is so small and so adorable, her little face is to die for, how could someone let this happen? I'll put her picture up on this thread....I also have a little tiny guy, Sterling, that my kids got me, they paid huge $ for him, he's a little tiny guy, 4lbs, and he is my life! He goes in for checkups regularly. I'm totally devoted to Sterling and now of course Kia also. They are just so cute together!! I'll try the parmesan!!

Awww, poor Kia. Good point on the teeth...maybe her mouth is hurting. I've never tried it..but I know some people, during puppy-teething, have used that baby-teething numbing gel stuff on their pups' gums, to help w/ soreness. Can anyone else enlighten about this? Or other teeth suggestions for pain?

If she is going to have them removed, it may be pointless to try much in terms of treatment - but some here use Petzlife gel and that can help w/ odor and tarter etcetera. I also use ProDen Plaque Off sprinkle (I get at the "Barkery" in Phx...do I have the name right, shoot?).

BonBon · 05-05-2010, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom

Awww, poor Kia. Good point on the teeth...maybe her mouth is hurting. I've never tried it..but I know some people, during puppy-teething, have used that baby-teething numbing gel stuff on their pups' gums, to help w/ soreness. Can anyone else enlighten about this? Or other teeth suggestions for pain?

If she is going to have them removed, it may be pointless to try much in terms of treatment - but some here use Petzlife gel and that can help w/ odor and tarter etcetera. I also use ProDen Plaque Off sprinkle (I get at the "Barkery" in Phx...do I have the name right, shoot?).

Orajel? That's a great idea, Ann. I used it on my elderly cocker spaniel years ago and it did seem to help him. It doesn't take much - just put a dab on a q-tip and swab the gums. Poor little girl, I bet her teeth do hurt.

What are you currently feeding Kia?

05-04-2010, 03:23 PM	#1
Sterlingsmom Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Phoenix, AZ, USA Posts: 61 Blog Entries: 4	Kia---Cushings.... Hi, I'm back and having problems getting Kia to eat.....She is now on 25mg of metotadine per week for the next two weeks, then back in for more testing, in the meantime she slowed down on eating right after her 25mg pill and now, 8 days later, is refusing to eat, she is still drinking fine. I'm wondering if I should give her a prednisone, call the vet or just take her to the vet. She is not lethargic, is actually showing some personality now! Any suggestions? Should I go with the pred as it is now 4:30pm and then take her in tomorrow? Cushings is awful and the lady that had her and DID NOT TREAT HER should be whipped. (sorry, just makes me mad as Kia is sooo sweet -weighing in at 3 1/2 lbs now- and as cute as a bugs ear!) Also, any thoughts on us changing her name? Would it be too traumatic as she has had the same name for 9 years?

05-04-2010, 03:28 PM	#2
kalina82 Phantom Queen Morrigan Donating Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: with my yorkie baby Posts: 10,141 Blog Entries: 1	I'd call the vet and ask about giving her the pred. __________________ Kellie and Morgan

05-04-2010, 03:35 PM	#3
kalina82 Phantom Queen Morrigan Donating Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: with my yorkie baby Posts: 10,141 Blog Entries: 1	Just read your previous posts about Kia. God bless you for taking her in and treating her Cushings. You are doing a wonderful thing for her. __________________ Kellie and Morgan

05-04-2010, 05:09 PM	#5
mojo Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Here, there Posts: 2,693	Then yes, I would give her the pred. My dog has addisons and she takes pred every other day. I think she will feel better if you give it to her. __________________ Bella (I miss you) Sachi Emmy

05-05-2010, 08:22 AM	#7
Wylie's Mom Furbutts = LOVE Donating Member Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 35,889 Blog Entries: 2	Thanks for updating on Kia . And once again, bless your heart. If I were you, since Kia is so new to her Cushings treatment, I'd probably phone the vet - describe the symptoms and ask if the pred should be given. Loss of appetite, shaking, vomiting can all be signs that the treatment is going too far (cortisol too low) and pred is now needed - but Mitotane can also mess w/ appetite, so it can be a tough call. Oh, oops - I see you gave her the pred already. How is she doing? Is her appetite better? Hugs to Kia, would love to keep hearing about her. __________________ ~ A friend told me I was delusional. I nearly fell off my unicorn. ~ °¨¨¨°ºOº°¨¨¨° Ann \| Pfeiffer \| Marcel Verdel Purcell \| Wylie \| Artie °¨¨¨°ºOº°¨¨¨°

05-04-2010, 03:44 PM	#4
Sterlingsmom Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Phoenix, AZ, USA Posts: 61 Blog Entries: 4	Our Vet has said to use the pred when/if I think we need to....

05-04-2010, 06:43 PM	#6
Sterlingsmom Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Phoenix, AZ, USA Posts: 61 Blog Entries: 4	I gave her the pred, it's only 1/4 of a 5mg tablet.....I just really worry when she doesn't eat...thanks so much for replying....she is so small..

05-05-2010, 08:28 AM	#8
Theodore YT Addict Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: santa clarita, CA Posts: 289	When Ted was on Prednisone, the one thing the docs forgot to mention was that you just can't stop giving it, you have to wean them off slowly; thank God for this place or I'd never known that and really messed him up. I hope your baby feels better and has a big meal!! Read up on the Prednisone just to be safe when you stop giving it. xo

05-05-2010, 08:33 AM	#9
Sterlingsmom Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Phoenix, AZ, USA Posts: 61 Blog Entries: 4	Hi! OK, I just talked to the vet, she told me I did the right thing giving her the pred, it's not much, but then Kia is not much either! She finally ate at about 9 last night. This morning we are back to it, she's not hungry and today is the day she gets her mitotane again, last time she got it was one week ago, the dose is 25mg. oh groan.....why is this happening.....alright, I'm going to think positive, Kia has been on an antibiotic, she desperately needs every single one of her teeth pulled, hopefully we can get that done next week. I am madly in love with this tiny girl, her little personality is finally coming through and she is just a nut! She loves to tease and play! She has a very quiet little bark and at times she will come and bark right at me! Thanks so much for all the help and yes, I'll keep all of you posted on her..

05-05-2010, 09:16 AM	#11
Sterlingsmom Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Phoenix, AZ, USA Posts: 61 Blog Entries: 4	No, we did the loading dose, we are going to do the stim test (AGAIN) next week, she wants to do that first and then depending on how that turns out hopefully do her teeth. I'm just wondering if her teeth hurt so much that she doesn't want to eat? I've NEVER seen such bad teeth and her breath smells so bad that we actually gag, seriously. It's very hard to hug her and kiss her, we have to hold our breath. I just don't get it, she is so small and so adorable, her little face is to die for, how could someone let this happen? I'll put her picture up on this thread....I also have a little tiny guy, Sterling, that my kids got me, they paid huge $ for him, he's a little tiny guy, 4lbs, and he is my life! He goes in for checkups regularly. I'm totally devoted to Sterling and now of course Kia also. They are just so cute together!! I'll try the parmesan!!

05-05-2010, 09:20 AM	#12
Sterlingsmom Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Phoenix, AZ, USA Posts: 61 Blog Entries: 4	I'm aware of the pred and not to just go cold turkey with it....thanks!

05-05-2010, 09:29 AM	#13
BonBon Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: With my yorkies Posts: 10,350	Kia sounds so precious. I missed your first thread, so I just went back and read it. Kia is a lucky, lucky little girl to have found you. Thank you for loving her and giving her the care she needs! We'd love to see pictures of her. Welcome to YT! __________________ He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog. You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart. You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion. -- Author Unknown