New puppy not playful-please help! - YorkieTalk.com Forums

Jesussavedme · 11-21-2004, 10:11 PM

Hi everyone! I'm new to the board and a relatively new Yorkie owner so I really would appreciate some feedback from you seasoned Yorkie owers.

I have been wanting a Yorkie for a long time and finally got my wish. We have an 11 week old precious, tiny Yorkie boy. He is weighing in at 1 pound 3.4 ounces whcih is only about a 3 ounce difference since we got him.

We got him from the breeder on November 7th at around 9 weeks old and the vet said he was totally fine on the vet check . However by November 9th he started with diarrhea and eventually developed hypoglycemia by the 11th so we again went to the vet who diagnosed him with Coccidia and an ear infection. He was put on Albon and otobiotic ear ointment which he was on for a week.

The puppy has never been active very much at all. He doesn't play or chew. He has had about 10 minutes total of any playful activity. He just will snuggle and be held.

Also, his hair is shedding and coming out when he is gently brushed and I thought Yorkies didn't shed. His hair has an oily dirty appearance and I bathed him and it quickly resumed this look. He really doesn't bark much if at all. He seems to shake and scratch fairly often even after his otobiotic is completed. He smelled bad at first but it seemed to be mainly coming from his ears which seems better now that his ears have been treated.

I told the vet both times about my concern about his lack of playfulness/activity and at first he said maybe the puppy was not as old as I was told he was. But I had seen the puppy at age 5 weeks and then picked him up at age 9 weeks. Besides the breeder seemed very honest and reputable so I do not think that would be.

Basically, I know all dogs have different personalities but we are beginning to think he has brain damage and is slow.
I was thinking that maybe his diminutive size may make him not as active but gerbils (though not dogs) are smaller than him and are very active.

For a little while he was licking us a lot but seems to have minded when we told him no. The reason we decided there was to be no licking it because he also has been caught eating/licking his stool if he gets to it before we can whisk it away. His breath is foul, but of course that would be the reason for that I would assume.

Are these at all normal behaviors or symptoms??We are especially concerned about his lack of "personality" or whatever you would label it. He is a good lap dog but surely as a puppy he should play a little bit. Any help you Yorkie old timers can give will be so very much appreciated!

Thanks and God bless!

fasteddie · 11-21-2004, 10:29 PM

Yes, Yorkies do eat their own poop unfortunately. Just gotta keep it away from them as much as you can. When you first get them into your home, they can be a little slow and lethargic, as they are not used to the new surroundings. When a young Yorkie needs to take medication, it can make them even more groggy and less active, as the drugs do have a big effect on such a little animal.

Does the vet have experience dealing with little Yorkies? I've heard of vets giving too much in terms of dosage to little Yorkies accidentally before, which is unfortunate. Have you talked to the breeder about his slowness and his unlively manner? Perhaps they can help you find out a reason for this. I'm sorry to hear about it, hope he peps up soon for ya!

Gypsy Rose · 11-22-2004, 12:19 AM

I just replied to your other post re names - didn't realise you already had him! As Fasteddie said it could well be due to the medication. Also young pups do sleep A LOT!! Wait until he's a bit older and you'll prpbably wish he slept a bit more!! Our yorkies have never shed hair (only a bit when brushed) but a pup can have a sort of greasy appearance to the hair - the puppy fur bears no similarity to the wonderful adult hair. A reassuring word from the breeder may be a good idea. Do let us know how he gets on.

bettyeanne · 11-22-2004, 05:01 AM

I believe that all Yorkies are different personalities ... our Toto has played at "warp" speed since we brought her home at 16 weeks. In the beginning she did sleep lots more than she played ... they are so high energy that they just seem to be drained after playing hard! Is he eating well? Is he alone a lot? It's really hard to guess what could be wrong. Has he begun any of his shots? If I were you I would make sure my vet is knowledgable about this tiny breed and if he isn't, I would find one who was. Also, if he isn't eating well ... since she is such a picky eater, we give Toto the vet formula NutriCal ... that assures us that even if her appetite isn't good, at least she is getting all the vitamins and nutrients that she needs. Please keep us updated on his progress ... hope things look up!

Oscar's Mom · 11-22-2004, 09:35 PM

Hi...new to the board as well. We have a baby Yorkie male who was also diagnosed with Coccidia. He weighs 1lb. 4 oz. at 9 weeks and is a bundle of energy. He is taking 1cc of Albon 1 time a day for two weeks. Has shown no ill effects from the medication and his stool has certainly improved since he started the Albon. We never saw any blood but lots of mucous and got him to the vet asap! These tinies can go down really quick so keep an eye on your baby.

Jesussavedme · 11-22-2004, 10:45 PM

What about the shedding-big clumps are occasionally coming out here recently. Is this a health issue or normal for a puppy? He also scratches and licks a lot-are these normal behaviors or does he need some type of treatment?

Thanks for everyone's kindness and help!

bettyeanne · 11-23-2004, 01:55 AM

Toto began to show those symptoms just a few months ago after we had new carpet installed. Our vet said she was allergic to something in the carpet and gave her medication. We had to clean the carpet ... the shedding stopped and she hasn't scratched since. Her little eyes also teared a lot!

bettyeanne · 11-23-2004, 02:38 AM

Welcome to YorkieTalk, Oscar's Mom!! The day we brought Toto home, she and her other littermates were all checked for Coccidia and she was the only one who didn't have it. She was 16 weeks old and weighed 1 lb. 8 ozs. and like your Oscar she was a tiny bundle of energy ... we were scared to death of her!!

We saw the vet three times that week and it was only the last visit that she showed that she also had it so it's a good idea to have them checked often. There were no symptoms that we could see ... I just make it a practice to have her little stool checked once a month when she sees the vet! She also was given Albon ... 2cc for fourteen days. Our vet gave us syringes with the doses already measured out! "Dr. Lucy" is wonderful [and very patient with us ... "over-protective" moms & dads]!

I have her on "speed-dial" at the office and at home and she doesn't mind at all getting "panic" calls! I think the most important thing for any Yorkie owner is a knowledgable vet!
BTW ... I noticed that you are also from Alabama! Where do you live? Our home is in east central Alabama!

karmaboomer · 11-23-2004, 05:36 AM

If the hair is coming out in chunks and your pup is scratching and licking a lot, it could be ringworm. That's what happened for my baby. Look for a dandruff-type of flaking skin too, and redness where the hair came out. Keep us updated!!

Luvmypupster · 11-23-2004, 06:31 AM

Congrats on your new puppy. First of all I'm going to tell you to trust your gut...if you think he's ill take him back to the vet. I would think he would have more energy than you are describing...is he eating, drinking, going potty ok and enough? Have you checked him for dehydration? My 2 were older when I got them so I didn't have exprience with one that young and tiny...that young and tiny scares the heck out of me. The hair issue could be from a variety of problems (allergies to illness) but with the itching it makes me think allergy. Keep nutrical on hand and take him back to the vet if you just don't have a good feeling about things. Have you called the breeder and talked to her?

Oscar's Mom · 11-23-2004, 11:36 AM

We live near Florence Alabama, near Muscle Shoals in the very northwest corner of the state...We love our little Oscar...lots of new stuff to learn...learned one thing too late..did not read this board until after I took him to Petsmart to get a "trim" and they trimmed around his eyes! Hope that does not turn out to be a catastrophe for us on that end. The rest of the grooming seemed to be great...they said he was a good boy for them!!!

Babbie · 11-23-2004, 12:17 PM

I didn't hear Mojo bark for over 1 month after i got him...he was such a little saint, all he did was follow me, eat and sleep, he wouldn't even play that much

Oh how i miss those times...hahaha now he is eletric, doesn't stop a sec and i can't find the on/off switch..hehehe But it's good to pay attention to their behaviour to make sure nothing is wrong and when in doubt, check with your vet. As per the hair falling...it could be a skin problem or even a coat deficient coat that is very weak and falls a lot..you should ask you vet about coat supplements to help with this issue.

Good luck with your yorkie!!!

mmyorkies · 11-23-2004, 01:27 PM

We got him from the breeder on November 7th at around 9 weeks old and the vet said he was totally fine on the vet check .

I hope I am not sounding harsh, but your little one actually should have stayed with it's mother until at least 12 weeks. I know that too many breeders just want to move the pups out the door, and when they are too young this will sometimes cause them to be stressed, which will bring on hypogyclemia. They will out grow this as they mature. you can supplement him with some nutrical or nutristat. Just a small dab on your finger and the pup should just lick it off. I give my pups this daily until they are about 5 or 6 months. I have a litter right now that is 11 weeks and the run and chase each other and their mother all around our place when I let them out of their pen.

However by November 9th he started with diarrhea and eventually developed hypoglycemia by the 11th so we again went to the vet who diagnosed him with Coccidia and an ear infection. He was put on Albon and otobiotic ear ointment which he was on for a week.

The puppy has never been active very much at all. He doesn't play or chew. He has had about 10 minutes total of any playful activity. He just will snuggle and be held.

Also, his hair is shedding and coming out when he is gently brushed and I thought Yorkies didn't shed. His hair has an oily dirty appearance and I bathed him and it quickly resumed this look. He really doesn't bark much if at all. He seems to shake and scratch fairly often even after his otobiotic is completed. He smelled bad at first but it seemed to be mainly coming from his ears which seems better now that his ears have been treated.

His hair should not be coming out like you describe. Wehn you brush or comb him a small amount will come out, just as when you brush or comb your hair, but not the big patches you are talking about. What food are you feeding? I could even be an allergy to food ingredients. I feed my pups Nutra Ultra Puppy food. They are doing really well on it, but there are other puppy foods that are good also.

I told the vet both times about my concern about his lack of playfulness/activity and at first he said maybe the puppy was not as old as I was told he was. But I had seen the puppy at age 5 weeks and then picked him up at age 9 weeks. Besides the breeder seemed very honest and reputable so I do not think that would be.

Basically, I know all dogs have different personalities but we are beginning to think he has brain damage and is slow.
I was thinking that maybe his diminutive size may make him not as active but gerbils (though not dogs) are smaller than him and are very active.

Has he been checked for liver problems, by having a bile acid test? I tested both my breeding female and male before I bred them and my pups are going for the test next week. Unfortunately, Livershunt is popping up more and more in our wonderful yorkies.

For a little while he was licking us a lot but seems to have minded when we told him no. The reason we decided there was to be no licking it because he also has been caught eating/licking his stool if he gets to it before we can whisk it away. His breath is foul, but of course that would be the reason for that I would assume.

Are these at all normal behaviors or symptoms??We are especially concerned about his lack of "personality" or whatever you would label it. He is a good lap dog but surely as a puppy he should play a little bit. Any help you Yorkie old timers can give will be so very much appreciated!

Thanks and God bless![/QUOTE]

bettyeanne · 11-24-2004, 04:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oscar's Mom

We live near Florence Alabama, near Muscle Shoals in the very northwest corner of the state...We love our little Oscar...lots of new stuff to learn...learned one thing too late..did not read this board until after I took him to Petsmart to get a "trim" and they trimmed around his eyes! Hope that does not turn out to be a catastrophe for us on that end. The rest of the grooming seemed to be great...they said he was a good boy for them!!!

WOW! We are very familiar with that area! Our home is in Anniston [about 50 miles from B'ham.]. We will be here in western Colorado for several years because of Patrick's work. He was raised in Huntsville ... his Mom was an attorney at Redstone Arsenal and his Dad, also an attorney, had a practice there! "It's a small world after all!!"

He had relatives in Florence!
If I were you, since the groomer trimmed around Oscar's little eyes, I would keep an eye on it and make sure that those little "prickly" hairs don't cause an eye infection. We had a groomer that shaved up the center of Toto's little nose! That was months ago and it's still not completely grown out!! I wouldn't have been so angry had I not already told her I didn't want it done!!

Oscar's Mom · 11-24-2004, 05:44 AM

Yeah, we go to Huntsville on a regular basis. It is a nice part of the country to live that is for sure. We love all of the lakes and rivers around. How old is Toto? We have thought about getting two, but Oscar is such a handful I just don't know. You should see him play fetch with my husband...LOL As many times as he will throw his toy, Oscar will bring it back! He is so smart. We used to raise bulldogs, and at 9 weeks they did not know what fetch was!

And after they did know, they were too stubborn!!! Oscar demands a lot of attention. How about what I hear about doubling their 12 week weight for an approximate weight full grown? Is there anything to that???

11-21-2004, 10:11 PM	#1
Jesussavedme YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Alabama Posts: 7	New puppy not playful-please help! Hi everyone! I'm new to the board and a relatively new Yorkie owner so I really would appreciate some feedback from you seasoned Yorkie owers. I have been wanting a Yorkie for a long time and finally got my wish. We have an 11 week old precious, tiny Yorkie boy. He is weighing in at 1 pound 3.4 ounces whcih is only about a 3 ounce difference since we got him. We got him from the breeder on November 7th at around 9 weeks old and the vet said he was totally fine on the vet check . However by November 9th he started with diarrhea and eventually developed hypoglycemia by the 11th so we again went to the vet who diagnosed him with Coccidia and an ear infection. He was put on Albon and otobiotic ear ointment which he was on for a week. The puppy has never been active very much at all. He doesn't play or chew. He has had about 10 minutes total of any playful activity. He just will snuggle and be held. Also, his hair is shedding and coming out when he is gently brushed and I thought Yorkies didn't shed. His hair has an oily dirty appearance and I bathed him and it quickly resumed this look. He really doesn't bark much if at all. He seems to shake and scratch fairly often even after his otobiotic is completed. He smelled bad at first but it seemed to be mainly coming from his ears which seems better now that his ears have been treated. I told the vet both times about my concern about his lack of playfulness/activity and at first he said maybe the puppy was not as old as I was told he was. But I had seen the puppy at age 5 weeks and then picked him up at age 9 weeks. Besides the breeder seemed very honest and reputable so I do not think that would be. Basically, I know all dogs have different personalities but we are beginning to think he has brain damage and is slow. I was thinking that maybe his diminutive size may make him not as active but gerbils (though not dogs) are smaller than him and are very active. For a little while he was licking us a lot but seems to have minded when we told him no. The reason we decided there was to be no licking it because he also has been caught eating/licking his stool if he gets to it before we can whisk it away. His breath is foul, but of course that would be the reason for that I would assume. Are these at all normal behaviors or symptoms??We are especially concerned about his lack of "personality" or whatever you would label it. He is a good lap dog but surely as a puppy he should play a little bit. Any help you Yorkie old timers can give will be so very much appreciated! Thanks and God bless!

11-22-2004, 05:01 AM	#4
bettyeanne Donating YT 7000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Alabama, etc. Posts: 9,031	I believe that all Yorkies are different personalities ... our Toto has played at "warp" speed since we brought her home at 16 weeks. In the beginning she did sleep lots more than she played ... they are so high energy that they just seem to be drained after playing hard! Is he eating well? Is he alone a lot? It's really hard to guess what could be wrong. Has he begun any of his shots? If I were you I would make sure my vet is knowledgable about this tiny breed and if he isn't, I would find one who was. Also, if he isn't eating well ... since she is such a picky eater, we give Toto the vet formula NutriCal ... that assures us that even if her appetite isn't good, at least she is getting all the vitamins and nutrients that she needs. Please keep us updated on his progress ... hope things look up! __________________ Toto's Mom - http://www.dogster.com/?206581 Yorkie Rescue Colorado - http://www.yorkierescuecolorado.com/ "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has limits." -- Albert Einstein

11-23-2004, 01:55 AM	#7
bettyeanne Donating YT 7000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Alabama, etc. Posts: 9,031	Toto began to show those symptoms just a few months ago after we had new carpet installed. Our vet said she was allergic to something in the carpet and gave her medication. We had to clean the carpet ... the shedding stopped and she hasn't scratched since. Her little eyes also teared a lot! __________________ Toto's Mom - http://www.dogster.com/?206581 Yorkie Rescue Colorado - http://www.yorkierescuecolorado.com/ "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has limits." -- Albert Einstein

11-23-2004, 02:38 AM	#8
bettyeanne Donating YT 7000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Alabama, etc. Posts: 9,031	Welcome to YorkieTalk, Oscar's Mom!! The day we brought Toto home, she and her other littermates were all checked for Coccidia and she was the only one who didn't have it. She was 16 weeks old and weighed 1 lb. 8 ozs. and like your Oscar she was a tiny bundle of energy ... we were scared to death of her!! We saw the vet three times that week and it was only the last visit that she showed that she also had it so it's a good idea to have them checked often. There were no symptoms that we could see ... I just make it a practice to have her little stool checked once a month when she sees the vet! She also was given Albon ... 2cc for fourteen days. Our vet gave us syringes with the doses already measured out! "Dr. Lucy" is wonderful [and very patient with us ... "over-protective" moms & dads]! I have her on "speed-dial" at the office and at home and she doesn't mind at all getting "panic" calls! I think the most important thing for any Yorkie owner is a knowledgable vet! BTW ... I noticed that you are also from Alabama! Where do you live? Our home is in east central Alabama! __________________ Toto's Mom - http://www.dogster.com/?206581 Yorkie Rescue Colorado - http://www.yorkierescuecolorado.com/ "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has limits." -- Albert Einstein

11-23-2004, 06:31 AM	#10
Luvmypupster YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: tx Posts: 624	Congrats on your new puppy. First of all I'm going to tell you to trust your gut...if you think he's ill take him back to the vet. I would think he would have more energy than you are describing...is he eating, drinking, going potty ok and enough? Have you checked him for dehydration? My 2 were older when I got them so I didn't have exprience with one that young and tiny...that young and tiny scares the heck out of me. The hair issue could be from a variety of problems (allergies to illness) but with the itching it makes me think allergy. Keep nutrical on hand and take him back to the vet if you just don't have a good feeling about things. Have you called the breeder and talked to her? __________________ Emme & Faith R.I.P. Mia & Bentley Last edited by Luvmypupster; 11-23-2004 at 06:33 AM. Reason: edit spelling

11-21-2004, 10:29 PM	#2
fasteddie *YT 6000 Club Member* Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 6,238	Yes, Yorkies do eat their own poop unfortunately. Just gotta keep it away from them as much as you can. When you first get them into your home, they can be a little slow and lethargic, as they are not used to the new surroundings. When a young Yorkie needs to take medication, it can make them even more groggy and less active, as the drugs do have a big effect on such a little animal. Does the vet have experience dealing with little Yorkies? I've heard of vets giving too much in terms of dosage to little Yorkies accidentally before, which is unfortunate. Have you talked to the breeder about his slowness and his unlively manner? Perhaps they can help you find out a reason for this. I'm sorry to hear about it, hope he peps up soon for ya!

11-22-2004, 12:19 AM	#3
Gypsy Rose Owned by Gyps and Gizz Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Wales Posts: 629	I just replied to your other post re names - didn't realise you already had him! As Fasteddie said it could well be due to the medication. Also young pups do sleep A LOT!! Wait until he's a bit older and you'll prpbably wish he slept a bit more!! Our yorkies have never shed hair (only a bit when brushed) but a pup can have a sort of greasy appearance to the hair - the puppy fur bears no similarity to the wonderful adult hair. A reassuring word from the breeder may be a good idea. Do let us know how he gets on.

11-22-2004, 09:35 PM	#5
Oscar's Mom My Little Biker Dude Donating Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Alabama Posts: 2,065	Hi...new to the board as well. We have a baby Yorkie male who was also diagnosed with Coccidia. He weighs 1lb. 4 oz. at 9 weeks and is a bundle of energy. He is taking 1cc of Albon 1 time a day for two weeks. Has shown no ill effects from the medication and his stool has certainly improved since he started the Albon. We never saw any blood but lots of mucous and got him to the vet asap! These tinies can go down really quick so keep an eye on your baby.

11-22-2004, 10:45 PM	#6
Jesussavedme YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Alabama Posts: 7	What about the shedding-big clumps are occasionally coming out here recently. Is this a health issue or normal for a puppy? He also scratches and licks a lot-are these normal behaviors or does he need some type of treatment? Thanks for everyone's kindness and help!

11-23-2004, 05:36 AM	#9
karmaboomer Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 118	If the hair is coming out in chunks and your pup is scratching and licking a lot, it could be ringworm. That's what happened for my baby. Look for a dandruff-type of flaking skin too, and redness where the hair came out. Keep us updated!!

11-23-2004, 11:36 AM	#11
Oscar's Mom My Little Biker Dude Donating Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Alabama Posts: 2,065	We live near Florence Alabama, near Muscle Shoals in the very northwest corner of the state...We love our little Oscar...lots of new stuff to learn...learned one thing too late..did not read this board until after I took him to Petsmart to get a "trim" and they trimmed around his eyes! Hope that does not turn out to be a catastrophe for us on that end. The rest of the grooming seemed to be great...they said he was a good boy for them!!!

11-23-2004, 12:17 PM	#12
Babbie Got Mojo? Donating Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Miami Posts: 1,117	I didn't hear Mojo bark for over 1 month after i got him...he was such a little saint, all he did was follow me, eat and sleep, he wouldn't even play that much Oh how i miss those times...hahaha now he is eletric, doesn't stop a sec and i can't find the on/off switch..hehehe But it's good to pay attention to their behaviour to make sure nothing is wrong and when in doubt, check with your vet. As per the hair falling...it could be a skin problem or even a coat deficient coat that is very weak and falls a lot..you should ask you vet about coat supplements to help with this issue. Good luck with your yorkie!!!

11-23-2004, 01:27 PM	#13
mmyorkies No Longer a Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 357	We got him from the breeder on November 7th at around 9 weeks old and the vet said he was totally fine on the vet check . I hope I am not sounding harsh, but your little one actually should have stayed with it's mother until at least 12 weeks. I know that too many breeders just want to move the pups out the door, and when they are too young this will sometimes cause them to be stressed, which will bring on hypogyclemia. They will out grow this as they mature. you can supplement him with some nutrical or nutristat. Just a small dab on your finger and the pup should just lick it off. I give my pups this daily until they are about 5 or 6 months. I have a litter right now that is 11 weeks and the run and chase each other and their mother all around our place when I let them out of their pen. However by November 9th he started with diarrhea and eventually developed hypoglycemia by the 11th so we again went to the vet who diagnosed him with Coccidia and an ear infection. He was put on Albon and otobiotic ear ointment which he was on for a week. The puppy has never been active very much at all. He doesn't play or chew. He has had about 10 minutes total of any playful activity. He just will snuggle and be held. Also, his hair is shedding and coming out when he is gently brushed and I thought Yorkies didn't shed. His hair has an oily dirty appearance and I bathed him and it quickly resumed this look. He really doesn't bark much if at all. He seems to shake and scratch fairly often even after his otobiotic is completed. He smelled bad at first but it seemed to be mainly coming from his ears which seems better now that his ears have been treated. His hair should not be coming out like you describe. Wehn you brush or comb him a small amount will come out, just as when you brush or comb your hair, but not the big patches you are talking about. What food are you feeding? I could even be an allergy to food ingredients. I feed my pups Nutra Ultra Puppy food. They are doing really well on it, but there are other puppy foods that are good also. I told the vet both times about my concern about his lack of playfulness/activity and at first he said maybe the puppy was not as old as I was told he was. But I had seen the puppy at age 5 weeks and then picked him up at age 9 weeks. Besides the breeder seemed very honest and reputable so I do not think that would be. Basically, I know all dogs have different personalities but we are beginning to think he has brain damage and is slow. I was thinking that maybe his diminutive size may make him not as active but gerbils (though not dogs) are smaller than him and are very active. Has he been checked for liver problems, by having a bile acid test? I tested both my breeding female and male before I bred them and my pups are going for the test next week. Unfortunately, Livershunt is popping up more and more in our wonderful yorkies. For a little while he was licking us a lot but seems to have minded when we told him no. The reason we decided there was to be no licking it because he also has been caught eating/licking his stool if he gets to it before we can whisk it away. His breath is foul, but of course that would be the reason for that I would assume. Are these at all normal behaviors or symptoms??We are especially concerned about his lack of "personality" or whatever you would label it. He is a good lap dog but surely as a puppy he should play a little bit. Any help you Yorkie old timers can give will be so very much appreciated! Thanks and God bless![/QUOTE]

11-24-2004, 05:44 AM	#15
Oscar's Mom My Little Biker Dude Donating Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Alabama Posts: 2,065	Yeah, we go to Huntsville on a regular basis. It is a nice part of the country to live that is for sure. We love all of the lakes and rivers around. How old is Toto? We have thought about getting two, but Oscar is such a handful I just don't know. You should see him play fetch with my husband...LOL As many times as he will throw his toy, Oscar will bring it back! He is so smart. We used to raise bulldogs, and at 9 weeks they did not know what fetch was! And after they did know, they were too stubborn!!! Oscar demands a lot of attention. How about what I hear about doubling their 12 week weight for an approximate weight full grown? Is there anything to that??? Last edited by Oscar's Mom; 11-24-2004 at 05:46 AM.