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heatherm0890 · 12-10-2010, 06:49 PM

Hi Guys, I hope everyone has been well. Between school and other commitments, have barely had time to breath, much less post so sorry!

Well, Bailee is sick and I am freaking out a little so this is the place I thought of...
She has always thrown up yellow bile about once or twice a week due to the fact she was hungry and needed to eat. ( I free feed but she just doens't east sometimes.) About a week ago, this started becoming more frequent like 2 or 3 times a day and in the night. The vet said she could just be producing too much bile and to start giving her 2.5 mg of pepcid AC daily. I started this two days ago and it seemed to have taken care of the yellow bile problem,but now she is throwing up her food! She has done this twice today and it is worrying me to death. It is a mix of food and saliva/foam type stuff. Any advice would be helpful!

Lizzie07 · 12-10-2010, 07:09 PM

You should probably ask admin to move this to Sick/Emergencies where it won't get buried so fast.

Did your vet do bloodwork? Where the results normal? I would be very, very concerned too.

heatherm0890 · 12-10-2010, 07:14 PM

I thought about putting it there but I was thinking more people would be in general...I just may ask them to move it though!
No bloodwork was done, they said the bile was fairly common and should clear up with the Pepcid AC but it isn't.
I was doing some online research and does anyone happen to know how long dry dog food is good for? I normally buy 5lbs bags of NB duck and potato. However the last time I went, there were ony 28 lbs and it takes Bailee foreverrrrr to eat that much. I have it stored in a container and not the original bag so do you think that may have gone bad? I have had it several months...in any case I am purchasing some fresh tomorrow...

Ladymom · 12-10-2010, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by heatherm0890

I thought about putting it there but I was thinking more people would be in general...I just may ask them to move it though!
No bloodwork was done, they said the bile was fairly common and should clear up with the Pepcid AC but it isn't.
I was doing some online research and does anyone happen to know how long dry dog food is good for? I normally buy 5lbs bags of NB duck and potato. However the last time I went, there were ony 28 lbs and it takes Bailee foreverrrrr to eat that much. I have it stored in a container and not the original bag so do you think that may have gone bad? I have had it several months...in any case I am purchasing some fresh tomorrow...

Dry kibble only keeps for 4-6 weeks. It shouldn't spoil, though. It just loses its nutritional value.

Dry Dog Food: How to Safely Store and Handle Kibble | Blog4Dogs

heatherm0890 · 12-10-2010, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Ladymom

Dry kibble only keeps for 4-6 weeks. It shouldn't spoil, though. It just loses its nutritional value.

Dry Dog Food: How to Safely Store and Handle Kibble | Blog4Dogs

thank you so much for the info, it has certainly been longer than that so I will get her some more...
any other ideas on what it may be?

kjc · 12-10-2010, 07:47 PM

How old is Bailee?

Yorkies will vomit for any number of reasons.

Check her food... smell it... dog food can go rancid or get moldy so check the color and the odor.

Sometimes dogs can have an overgrowth of bad bacteria in their systems, (shows up on a fecal exam), that will make them sick.

Toxins can make them vomit.

Viruses can cause vomiting. Usually supportive care is provided and antibiotics to prevent secondary infections until the virus runs it's course.

Is she pooping normally? If not, she may have eaten something not digestible and could have a blockage. Her tummy may be hard and bloated. An Xray could rule this out.

She may be developing an allergy to her food. The easiest way to figure this out is to change her food to a different type of protein and see if it helps. If not, then you vet will have to run some tests.

Has she been dewormed? Parasites can also cause vomiting.

Pancreatitis can cause vomiting. Has she eaten anything other than her own dog food? Some people food is too rich for the pups and Yorkies have a tendency to develop pancreatitis anyway. Is she painful in her abdomen and/or along her spine just forward of the hips?

If none of this helps, and this turns out to be a chronic condition, then a biopsy of her stomach and/or intestines may be done.

It won't hurt to put her on a bland diet of chicken and rice... I do this anytime mine get sick, for a few days till they calm down.

I would have testing done very soon, you don't want to let this go one for too long without determining the cause.

heatherm0890 · 12-10-2010, 07:59 PM

checked the food, it doesn't smell great but then again it is dog food, however it doesnt have a rancid smell

she is popping normally as I was scared about a blockage as well

she is dewormed and up to date on all vaccines
as for the other things I guess I will have to see what the vet says...she is acting fine running aorund the room right now as a matter of fact...it just concerns me with this much vomiting...

oh and bailee is 2 and 1/2

oh and she doesn't eat people food EVER, I am always very careful about that...

kjc · 12-10-2010, 08:18 PM

Mine usually pick up some kind of bug from the yard seems like whenever the seasons change, they'd end up with diarrhea mostly but sometimes would vomit. This happened so often every 3 months it seemed, I asked the vet and put them on probiotics all the time now, which has helped keep their tummies under control for almost a year now.

You'll probably need to have bloodwork and a fecal done, and see what the vet says after the exam. I would expect the vet to be a bit more aggressive about this at her next appointment.

Vaccines work against some illnesses, but there are still many things that we don't/can't vaccinate against, that can cause illness in dogs. Was she around any other dogs lately?

heatherm0890 · 12-10-2010, 08:23 PM

nope just our other dog, a border collie. Hopefully this will clear up, if she vomits one more time then it is back to the vet we go...poor thing

kjc · 12-10-2010, 08:34 PM

Also, when a dog vomits, you should pull the food and water for about 4-6 hours, and when you reintroduce it, only give small amounts every 15-20 minutes or so. It gives them a better chance of keeping it down. Start with water in small amounts, then after an hour or two and no vomiting, try her with a little bit of food. If she vomits again, remove the food and water again for 4-6 hours.

Chicken and rice (plain white rice) is bland and would be good to feed her. Or you can use Gerber's Stages Stage 2 Chicken Baby food. Meat only, none of the fancier dinners or anything like that, until her issues are resolved.

Your vet may opt to give her an injection to stop the vomiting, dependent on what he discovers when he sees her next.

heatherm0890 · 12-10-2010, 08:40 PM

I will try the food thing and she lovesssss chicken (hates rice, spoiled thing

)
thank you so muchhhh for all the advice, makes me feel better knowing I have things I can do for now!

concretegurl · 12-10-2010, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by heatherm0890

Hi Guys, I hope everyone has been well. Between school and other commitments, have barely had time to breath, much less post so sorry!

Well, Bailee is sick and I am freaking out a little so this is the place I thought of...
She has always thrown up yellow bile about once or twice a week due to the fact she was hungry and needed to eat. ( I free feed but she just doesn't east sometimes.) About a week ago, this started becoming more frequent like 2 or 3 times a day and in the night. The vet said she could just be producing too much bile and to start giving her 2.5 mg of Pepcid AC daily. I started this two days ago and it seemed to have taken care of the yellow bile problem,but now she is throwing up her food! She has done this twice today and it is worrying me to death. It is a mix of food and saliva/foam type stuff. Any advice would be helpful!

Anti-acids work the same way in humans as dog etc...they only band aid an issue and do not CURE it...try a teaspoon of (mother's)APPLE CIDER VINEGAR in water-or in some dog safe liquid (like flavored water to change the taste). Apple cider vinegar works wonders for people with reflux too after 3 months of Prilosec, two months prior with Nexxium, and years of tums etc I was passed on the knowledge of (mother;s)APPLE CIDER VINEGAR from a nutritionist, and later read about it in Kevin Trudeau's Natural Cures book. See the second link for the effects on curing conditions in both people and animals. Works wonders-just out of curiosity do you use a raised feeder? I love the ones from thebellacottage.com they are gorgeous and they are more than reasonably priced-cheaper than I've seen any basic one in any pet store. have you ever considered a water bottle instead of a water bowl? Miniature Schnauzer's are extremely refluxy and have to use a raised feeder, also they have beard issues and are recommended to use a water bottle to keep their face dry-well I found using a water bottle also aided in reflux issues.4" White Pet Feeder - The Bella Cottage
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heatherm0890 · 12-10-2010, 08:56 PM

Wow I didn't know that, thanks for sharing!!...I do use a raised feeder.I was told that was better when I bought it

concretegurl · 12-10-2010, 09:01 PM

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yorkiesincommon · 12-10-2010, 09:17 PM

Dear Bailee's mom, please let us know how she is doing tomorrow. If you do not see the end to this vomiting by tomorrow evening (Saturday evening) get her back to the vet. Make sure she does not dehydrate. It sounds like everyone is giving you great advice and many of us check in often on issues where a yorkie is sick so we will watch to make sure we support you until Bailee is well. Try to take care of yourself; you are in our thoughts and prayers.

12-10-2010, 06:49 PM	#1
heatherm0890 YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Greenville,North Carolina, US Posts: 875	Long time no post, but Bailee is sick and need advice! Hi Guys, I hope everyone has been well. Between school and other commitments, have barely had time to breath, much less post so sorry! Well, Bailee is sick and I am freaking out a little so this is the place I thought of... She has always thrown up yellow bile about once or twice a week due to the fact she was hungry and needed to eat. ( I free feed but she just doens't east sometimes.) About a week ago, this started becoming more frequent like 2 or 3 times a day and in the night. The vet said she could just be producing too much bile and to start giving her 2.5 mg of pepcid AC daily. I started this two days ago and it seemed to have taken care of the yellow bile problem,but now she is throwing up her food! She has done this twice today and it is worrying me to death. It is a mix of food and saliva/foam type stuff. Any advice would be helpful! __________________ **Bailee's Mommy **

12-10-2010, 07:09 PM	#2
Lizzie07 YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Ball Ground, GA Posts: 1,262	You should probably ask admin to move this to Sick/Emergencies where it won't get buried so fast. Did your vet do bloodwork? Where the results normal? I would be very, very concerned too. __________________ Kristan Lizzy's mom

12-10-2010, 07:14 PM	#3
heatherm0890 YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Greenville,North Carolina, US Posts: 875	I thought about putting it there but I was thinking more people would be in general...I just may ask them to move it though! No bloodwork was done, they said the bile was fairly common and should clear up with the Pepcid AC but it isn't. I was doing some online research and does anyone happen to know how long dry dog food is good for? I normally buy 5lbs bags of NB duck and potato. However the last time I went, there were ony 28 lbs and it takes Bailee foreverrrrr to eat that much. I have it stored in a container and not the original bag so do you think that may have gone bad? I have had it several months...in any case I am purchasing some fresh tomorrow... __________________ **Bailee's Mommy **

12-10-2010, 07:47 PM	#6
kjc I♥PeekTinkySaph&Finny Donating Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Baltimore, Maryland Posts: 18,866	How old is Bailee? Yorkies will vomit for any number of reasons. Check her food... smell it... dog food can go rancid or get moldy so check the color and the odor. Sometimes dogs can have an overgrowth of bad bacteria in their systems, (shows up on a fecal exam), that will make them sick. Toxins can make them vomit. Viruses can cause vomiting. Usually supportive care is provided and antibiotics to prevent secondary infections until the virus runs it's course. Is she pooping normally? If not, she may have eaten something not digestible and could have a blockage. Her tummy may be hard and bloated. An Xray could rule this out. She may be developing an allergy to her food. The easiest way to figure this out is to change her food to a different type of protein and see if it helps. If not, then you vet will have to run some tests. Has she been dewormed? Parasites can also cause vomiting. Pancreatitis can cause vomiting. Has she eaten anything other than her own dog food? Some people food is too rich for the pups and Yorkies have a tendency to develop pancreatitis anyway. Is she painful in her abdomen and/or along her spine just forward of the hips? If none of this helps, and this turns out to be a chronic condition, then a biopsy of her stomach and/or intestines may be done. It won't hurt to put her on a bland diet of chicken and rice... I do this anytime mine get sick, for a few days till they calm down. I would have testing done very soon, you don't want to let this go one for too long without determining the cause. __________________ Kat Chloe Lizzy PeekABooTinkerbell SapphireInfinity

12-10-2010, 07:59 PM	#7
heatherm0890 YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Greenville,North Carolina, US Posts: 875	checked the food, it doesn't smell great but then again it is dog food, however it doesnt have a rancid smell she is popping normally as I was scared about a blockage as well she is dewormed and up to date on all vaccines as for the other things I guess I will have to see what the vet says...she is acting fine running aorund the room right now as a matter of fact...it just concerns me with this much vomiting... oh and bailee is 2 and 1/2 oh and she doesn't eat people food EVER, I am always very careful about that... __________________ **Bailee's Mommy ** Last edited by heatherm0890; 12-10-2010 at 08:00 PM.

12-10-2010, 08:18 PM	#8
kjc I♥PeekTinkySaph&Finny Donating Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Baltimore, Maryland Posts: 18,866	Mine usually pick up some kind of bug from the yard seems like whenever the seasons change, they'd end up with diarrhea mostly but sometimes would vomit. This happened so often every 3 months it seemed, I asked the vet and put them on probiotics all the time now, which has helped keep their tummies under control for almost a year now. You'll probably need to have bloodwork and a fecal done, and see what the vet says after the exam. I would expect the vet to be a bit more aggressive about this at her next appointment. Vaccines work against some illnesses, but there are still many things that we don't/can't vaccinate against, that can cause illness in dogs. Was she around any other dogs lately? __________________ Kat Chloe Lizzy PeekABooTinkerbell SapphireInfinity

12-10-2010, 08:23 PM	#9
heatherm0890 YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Greenville,North Carolina, US Posts: 875	nope just our other dog, a border collie. Hopefully this will clear up, if she vomits one more time then it is back to the vet we go...poor thing __________________ **Bailee's Mommy **

12-10-2010, 08:34 PM	#10
kjc I♥PeekTinkySaph&Finny Donating Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Baltimore, Maryland Posts: 18,866	Also, when a dog vomits, you should pull the food and water for about 4-6 hours, and when you reintroduce it, only give small amounts every 15-20 minutes or so. It gives them a better chance of keeping it down. Start with water in small amounts, then after an hour or two and no vomiting, try her with a little bit of food. If she vomits again, remove the food and water again for 4-6 hours. Chicken and rice (plain white rice) is bland and would be good to feed her. Or you can use Gerber's Stages Stage 2 Chicken Baby food. Meat only, none of the fancier dinners or anything like that, until her issues are resolved. Your vet may opt to give her an injection to stop the vomiting, dependent on what he discovers when he sees her next. __________________ Kat Chloe Lizzy PeekABooTinkerbell SapphireInfinity

12-10-2010, 08:40 PM	#11
heatherm0890 YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Greenville,North Carolina, US Posts: 875	I will try the food thing and she lovesssss chicken (hates rice, spoiled thing ) thank you so muchhhh for all the advice, makes me feel better knowing I have things I can do for now! __________________ **Bailee's Mommy **

12-10-2010, 08:56 PM	#13
heatherm0890 YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Greenville,North Carolina, US Posts: 875	Wow I didn't know that, thanks for sharing!!...I do use a raised feeder.I was told that was better when I bought it __________________ **Bailee's Mommy **

12-10-2010, 09:01 PM	#14
concretegurl Between♥Suspensions Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Vaissades Posts: 7,979	Apple Cider Vinegar for Dogs

12-10-2010, 09:17 PM	#15
yorkiesincommon YT Addict Join Date: May 2010 Location: Melbourne, FL USA Posts: 292	Dear Bailee's mom, please let us know how she is doing tomorrow. If you do not see the end to this vomiting by tomorrow evening (Saturday evening) get her back to the vet. Make sure she does not dehydrate. It sounds like everyone is giving you great advice and many of us check in often on issues where a yorkie is sick so we will watch to make sure we support you until Bailee is well. Try to take care of yourself; you are in our thoughts and prayers. __________________ Mary of YikesYorkiesMelb., FL *alias: yorkiesincommon* YT