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01-06-2006, 04:41 AM | #1 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Arlington, Texas
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| Basic training in multi dog family Am new here but have a training question. Have a multi dog family..all older dogs..all have general obed. Sit, stay & down are practiced daily. We have added a new yorkie pup to our family. He is 15 wks old and I would like to start basic training. Problem: Where can I train..undistracted? If we work around the other dogs..they want to be part of the action too. When we go to a quiet room the pup misses his sisters and brothers (and they miss him) and there is whinning and scratching on the door (by the pup) wanting to get back with his friends so even with treats I can't keep his concentration. Can't work outside because it is too cold. I have tried putting the other dogs on a stay in the den...but eventually one gets up and comes to the door of the room I am in and scratches. Pup hears...and forget training. Its my fault that the older dogs "stay" is not extended in length. Over the years they have slowed down enough that a long stay is not needed in our lifestyle. Last night tried having one dog with me in the training area (on leash, attach. to the door knob) Old dog did perfect sits...pup couldn't get his little pea brain off trying to capture and kill the leash end hanging from the door. Poor older dog..gave her a nice treat and groomed her. Tried working with pup on walks..but at this young age he is so interested in the goings on in the neighborhood he doesn't even want treats! So the score is: Puppy = 2...Mom = 0 Should I continue to take him to the quiet area and keep trying to get..and KEEP his attention or try to work with him with all the others around??? Need suggestions. Oh, none of our dogs were crate trained so I can't put them there and our home is not large..no basements..no place to remove the distractions.
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01-06-2006, 11:46 AM | #2 |
YT Addict Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Somewhere land
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| Well I do not do the muliti dog yet as I have one that eats most others as yet but I do have a title. I have not read this one by her but I have read the second. FEELING OUTNUMBERED? HOW TO MANAGE & ENJOY A MULTI-DOG HOUSEHOLD by Karen London & Patricia McConnell http://www.dogwise.com/ItemDetails.cfm?ID=DTB722 I have read and really like. Whuch can be helpful as well. THE OTHER END OF THE LEASH by Patricia McConnell http://www.dogwise.com/ItemDetails.cfm?ID=DTB745 If you do get the first one I would love to hear your thoughts. I got a ton yet to read before I can et to it. Joy |
01-06-2006, 12:02 PM | #3 |
Rescue Angel Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: md
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| Same problem here Deb At first i just said FORGET it ....LOL.. But now I am trying to do a seperation thing. Either put the gang outside in a corral with sweaters if it's decent out(for like 15 minutes) or put everybody but one in a bedroom in a corral with music so they settle down and the music blocks them from hearing me work with the one at a time in the the livingroom. TOTALLY IMPOSSIBLE to work on training ANY other way...OH.. do you have a garage. You could put them there with a space heater
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01-06-2006, 12:12 PM | #4 |
Yorkie Lover Donating Member | Deb....it sounds like you have your hands full. Since I have only have two it is much easier for us, I ususally take one and one my parents take the other when we work with them. That way they get some individual attention...I would tell you to keep trying the separation thing but I am no expert!!! By the way, I am glad to see you at YT!!
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01-06-2006, 12:14 PM | #5 |
Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Montana
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| Distractions are a part of why we obedience train our dogs. You are going in the direction of gaining more control over your dog at all times, away from home, even in the presence of big distractions. So when you come into a negative problem you can tell your dog to 'come', 'stay' and he is going to listen to you and not go into the problem further. I suggest that you enroll in a puppy kindergarten class away from home until he is a little older and then do a basic obedience class. But for practice at home, I have the same problem with my yorkie and brittany. I make them 'sit' 'stay' 'down', etc. all together in the kitchen every morning to get a cookie and that is as far as I can get this time of year. When you can get outside, do it. And train each dog separately, asking the dog in training always to make eye contact with you. Out a biscuit in your mouth if you have too, and evewry time he does the right thing use lots of praise and give a reward biscuit...Eye contact is critical to make it work!!!!
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01-06-2006, 12:31 PM | #6 |
YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: American in London
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| Good post, Paisleypup! Deber, the first thing that comes to my mind is that perhaps you need to increase the value of your treats. Pup might find the other dogs more rewarding than a commercial dog treat but he might not feel the same way about a cube of cheese or liver!
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01-06-2006, 01:27 PM | #7 |
BANNED! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Creola, Alabama
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| Stick with the quiet room. If you follow the other suggestions, especially increasing the value of the treats, puppy will get the idea. |
01-06-2006, 02:56 PM | #8 |
YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: USA
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| I sit my puppy on the dining room table in front of me for some of his training sessions - he is so little that we can actually do "sit," "stay," "come," and "shake hands" on the table top. He is given treats during these training sessions, and, of course, my other dog is on the floor waiting for treats also. So - as I train the puppy - I hand treats down to my other dog. The cute thing that my pup does - is when I ask him to "sit" for a treat --I can't get him to get up again. He has learned that he gets a treat for sitting and won't get out of that position. He looks at me like he's saying, "Well - I'm still here - give me another one!" My pup does stay focused on me and his treats for these training sessions. Apparently, they are more important to him than anything the other dog might do. But, then, my other dog is sitting pretty quietly because he's getting treats also. Good luck! Carol Jean |
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