Glenda Beavers Pet Store Issue

[KarenAnn]

OK.....I have no idea how to attach something I scan onto this board, but I'll write out everything I have from the certificates.

Oklahoma State Department of Agriculture, Food & Forestry certificates of veterinary inspection:

Dated 1-22-07 Glenda Beavers shipped five 11 week old Yorkies and one 11 week old Pug
Vet signature on certificates - Amber Horn, DVM - Park Hill, OK

Dated 6-2-08 Glenda Beavers shipped two 8 week old Bulldogs
Vet signature - Yolanda Burton, DVM - Park Hill, OK

Dated 8-21-08 Glenda Beavers shipped four 8 week old red Poodles (one with umbilical hernia repaired) and six 8 week old Yorkies (one with inguinal hernia repaired).

Dated 8-21-08 Glenda Beavers shipped two 10 week old fawn Pugs.

All shipped to Puppy Love, 22 Backus Avenue, Danbury, CT

If Ms. Beavers is not breeding anything other than Yorkies, and instead selling other breeder's puppies to this store, she should have a USDA Broker's license, which to the best of my knowledge she does not have.

I am not a breeder, I do not have a Yorkie. I am a researcher who collects data on the sources of pet store puppies. That's it. I have no ax to grind, other than to expose the truth. Her kennel may be lovely, I have no doubt, but to not care about what types of homes her pups end up in all the way in Connecticut leads me to believe that love may not be Ms. Beavers' motiviation in breeding. I will be unable to respond to messages for the next couple of days, but will be happy to upon my return.

[Sugar's Mom]

Originally Posted by KarenAnn

OK.....I have no idea how to attach something I scan onto this board, but I'll write out everything I have from the certificates.

Oklahoma State Department of Agriculture, Food & Forestry certificates of veterinary inspection:

Dated 1-22-07 Glenda Beavers shipped five 11 week old Yorkies and one 11 week old Pug
Vet signature on certificates - Amber Horn, DVM - Park Hill, OK

Dated 6-2-08 Glenda Beavers shipped two 8 week old Bulldogs
Vet signature - Yolanda Burton, DVM - Park Hill, OK

Dated 8-21-08 Glenda Beavers shipped four 8 week old red Poodles (one with umbilical hernia repaired) and six 8 week old Yorkies (one with inguinal hernia repaired).

Dated 8-21-08 Glenda Beavers shipped two 10 week old fawn Pugs.

All shipped to Puppy Love, 22 Backus Avenue, Danbury, CT

If Ms. Beavers is not breeding anything other than Yorkies, and instead selling other breeder's puppies to this store, she should have a USDA Broker's license, which to the best of my knowledge she does not have.

I am not a breeder, I do not have a Yorkie. I am a researcher who collects data on the sources of pet store puppies. That's it. I have no ax to grind, other than to expose the truth. Her kennel may be lovely, I have no doubt, but to not care about what types of homes her pups end up in all the way in Connecticut leads me to believe that love may not be Ms. Beavers' motiviation in breeding. I will be unable to respond to messages for the next couple of days, but will be happy to upon my return.

Writing out is not good enough. You can scan your papers and copy and paste them here.

[JaLaYorkieGirl]

Saying you have proof does not count as proof...and posting what the report "supposedly" says is not proof either. I do not have a vested interest here, only that I am so tired of people saying they have proof and degrading breeders. The only way someone should post anything of this nature is along with proof (not to be provided later)...that includes verifiable proof that it is the same person, not just the same name/state. Anything other than that is slander.

[KarenAnn]

I'm trying, really I am! It won't attach on this message board. For heaven's sake, I live in Connecticut, how the heck would I know who her vets are if I weren't looking at these things?! Would you like me to list the weights (down to the ounces) and sexes of each individual pup? I can scan them to regular e-mail addresses but can't get to attach on here. The address of the consignor (seller) is (ADDRESS REMOVED BY ADMIN) in Talequah, OK. The name Dean is crossed out on one of them, looks like they started to write Dean and Glenda Beavers, then crossed his name out. Have any of you received a rebuttal from her regarding the health certificate info I posted earlier?

I certainly don't think that Ms. Beavers is the only show dog breeder who sells her pups to stores. It's probably a great way to fund an expensive hobby, and get rid of the non show quality pups. Sandra & John Blake of Missouri sell their puppies to Puppies of Westport in CT, they're big time brokers who have apparently shown at Westminster. Jan Todd sells to Puppy Love as well, believe she is a big Labrador person. If you STILL think I have the wrong Glenda Beavers of Talequah, OK, I am more than happy to e-mail these certificates, or if someone more technical can explain how to attach them on here (beyond "just cut and paste"), please let me know. Again, I am heading out of town for the holiday, will not have access to e-mail so will respond to comments over the weekend.

[ree]

includes verifiable proof that it is the same person, not just the same name/state. Anything other than that is slander.[/QUOTE]

how many people have that same exact name and live in the same exact town/state?

This is so unenjoyable. This girl has explained herself a few times already, along with what she does. Doing research on this particular pet shop and the breeders affiliated with them most likely lead her here. I do not think she is being facetious, I honestly think her goal was to make people aware. She may be just one small voice, and if only one person hears it...she made a difference. Why don't you just pick the phone up on Friday and call the Oklahoma State Department of Agriculture and just ask for the info you are seeking. You will either be put at ease, or learn something you didn't think possible. Much better than going around with this on here. They way this world is, nothing is shocking any more.

[topknot]

It does not make any sense:
1. Why would Glenda ruin her own show career by selling to pet shops. Yea, I am sure all the hard work she does to show, just to sell to pet shops make a lot of sense. Not! LOL
2. Why would she ruin her line.
3. Her pups are not cheap - how much are the pet shops selling the pups for - it must be more than a lot - a Whole Lot More!! I do not think that anyone would pay That Price at a pet shop. I looked at the pet shop and they do not sell AKC registered pups.
4. This is suppose to be a researcher and yet she cannot figure out how to take a photo of the evidence and download it to this site. Come on ... we are not stupid!!

This is all a farse. I think that if Glenda knew the person's name - and since this KarenAnn is lying she is not giving her true name... Glenda could take her to court for defermation of character.

And if the reseacher was just trying to warn people - what would make her search for a Yorkie Talk forum ...LOL Yorkies were not the only breed. So why search out Yorkie Talk Forum?? No.. this is a trick and to get us going.. Do not fall for it. I do not have "Sucker" written on my forehead. Do you??
I think she would also have to worry about getting in trouble with the pet shop too. I say she is in a lot of trouble. Too bad we do not know her true name! Why?? She knows it is all a lie.

[ree]

Karen sent a certificate to me last night. I have tried everything to get it off of word doc on to here, I can't. ( actually I don't even know if it's legal to post this document publicly ) This certificate states her name, address, the vets name and phone number. The list of puppies sent to Puppy Love ( one pup is a pug) states that vaccinations was given by breeder, a permit number on the top of the certificate. It is from the Oklahoma State Department of Agriculture , with a stamp, address and phone number. I honestly do not think she is making this up. She works to help stop puppy mills and pet shops who buys from them. She has been working on this one particular pet shop for a few years now. She didn't say this, but when you put GB name in a search bar, links come up to YT and I believe that's how she found this forum. I believe 100% her intent was to make people aware in what goes on out there and she is telling the truth . I do understand people being on the defense , especially when someone new pops on with this information. Glenda does have beautiful yorkies. I have talked with her a few times back when about a puppy, but honestly, nearly 3 grand was out of my budget for a pet. I don't think Karen is implying she is a puppy mill per say, her message was she sells different breeds to pet shops which is a concern. We never know what truly goes on behind "closed doors"

anyway, I am off to enjoy this holiday with my family, I wish for all of you to have the same.

[Ines3185lyorkie]

Originally Posted by ree

Karen sent a certificate to me last night. I have tried everything to get it off of word doc on to here, I can't. ( actually I don't even know if it's legal to post this document publicly ) This certificate states her name, address, the vets name and phone number. The list of puppies sent to Puppy Love ( one pup is a pug) states that vaccinations was given by breeder, a permit number on the top of the certificate. It is from the Oklahoma State Department of Agriculture , with a stamp, address and phone number. I honestly do not think she is making this up. She works to help stop puppy mills and pet shops who buys from them. She has been working on this one particular pet shop for a few years now. She didn't say this, but when you put GB name in a search bar, links come up to YT and I believe that's how she found this forum. I believe 100% her intent was to make people aware in what goes on out there and she is telling the truth . I do understand people being on the defense , especially when someone new pops on with this information. Glenda does have beautiful yorkies. I have talked with her a few times back when about a puppy, but honestly, nearly 3 grand was out of my budget for a pet. I don't think Karen is implying she is a puppy mill per say, her message was she sells different breeds to pet shops which is a concern. We never know what truly goes on behind "closed doors"

anyway, I am off to enjoy this holiday with my family, I wish for all of you to have the same.

Could this be the reason you are so upset at Ms. Beavers? lol

[ree]

Originally Posted by Ines3185lyorkie

Could this be the reason you are so upset at Ms. Beavers? lol

No, I was never up set at Glenda at all.. did you ever hear me say that or knock her prices?? We actually had very nice conversations the few times we spoke. I am not in favor in what she is doing and don't agree with it. For all she has going for her, she didn't have to go this route... it is what it is I guess.

back to the family ~

[TsaLaGi]

To begin, I, Glenda Beavers, have never been on a chat line or forum but it has come to my attention that my integrity as a breeder and fancier has been in question so I’m going to address it as follows…

I have never sold one of MY pups to ANY pet store, INCLUDING Puppy Love. In fact, you will find no DNA from any pet shop trace back to my DNA line. Furthermore, I generally ask many questions before I place any of my dogs with individuals. They are placed one at a time, not in groups.

In regards to the health certificates in question…I have been friends with the owners of Puppy Love for years and occasionally, when asked, would pick a dog up for them and ship it for them (again, NOT mine). I make no money from doing this and do it only out of friendship for them. I have nothing to hide. They have their business, and I have mine…end of story.

I’ve spent 30 years perfecting my breed. Why would I sell my yorkies to a pet shop? I don’t need to.

There continues to be numerous clients and fanciers visit and verify my kennel. I welcome anyone to come to my place unannounced and see my yorkies and operation at anytime. You will see nothing but yorkies (SHOW yorkies) there. Yorkies that will never and have never been in a pet store. I always tell people, when asked about raising and showing yorkies, that you cannot like the breed, but must LOVE the breed! I have dedicated thirty years of my life to this breed. When I leave it, I pray that it will be left much better than when I began.

To those who have defended me, I appreciate you and I am the same person I’ve always been, doing the same thing I’ve always done.

I am not a broker. The dogs being mentioned in this thread were not my dogs. I just did a favor for a friend. In my professional opinion, I don’t understand the significance in raising this as an issue.

Please contact me directly with any questions I have not addressed here, for this is hopefully my first and last time to ever address anything that would question my love and devotion to this breed.

Sincerely,

Glenda Beavers
Tsa-La-Gi Yorkshire Terriers
showdogs@hughes.net
www.yorkieshowdogs.com

[jrsygal37]

I don't know Glenda but out of curiosity I googled her and I did come up with a webpage of French Bulldogs in which her name was mentioned. It states that one in particular was purchased from Daniel Laporte and Glenda Beavers from Tsa-La-Gi Yorkies of Tahlegue Oklahoma. Here is the link Big Time Pets -- Double XX Ranch

You have to read through it for a bit but it is there with a pic. of the French Bulldog.

I am not saying whether what the newbie poster posted is correct or not - all I'd like to say is that as a person involved personally with rescue and trying to shut mills down that it's a possibility that the person posting is actually legit and not a troll. Often I too research and will try and expose something different then what the breeders is leading the public to believe.

I personally have spoken to Glenda and found her to be very nice. I've heard many good things about her and would hate to see her reputation tarnished bad information but if what is being said is true I think it's very sad to learn. I personally think that this poster is giving what she believes to be accurate information. I don't think there is any malice involved other then she is trying to expose a wrong. The key is finding out if the info the poster has is actually correct. Just my opinon.

Happy Thanksgiving all.
Elaine

[spr377]

Originally Posted by jrsygal37

I don't know Glenda but out of curiosity I googled her and I did come up with a webpage of French Bulldogs in which her name was mentioned. It states that one in particular was purchased from Daniel Laporte and Glenda Beavers from Tsa-La-Gi Yorkies of Tahlegue Oklahoma. Here is the link Big Time Pets -- Double XX Ranch

You have to read through it for a bit but it is there with a pic. of the French Bulldog.

I am not saying whether what the newbie poster posted is correct or not - all I'd like to say is that as a person involved personally with rescue and trying to shut mills down that it's a possibility that the person posting is actually legit and not a troll. Often I too research and will try and expose something different then what the breeders is leading the public to believe.

I personally have spoken to Glenda and found her to be very nice. I've heard many good things about her and would hate to see her reputation tarnished bad information but if what is being said is true I think it's very sad to learn. I personally think that this poster is giving what she believes to be accurate information. I don't think there is any malice involved other then she is trying to expose a wrong. The key is finding out if the info the poster has is actually correct. Just my opinon.

Happy Thanksgiving all.
Elaine

Good posting!

[bildio]

If this is true, what should we do, e.g., not purchase from the breeder?

[topknot]

Before you guys jump to conclusions - Remember last time this happened!! People jumped on the band wagon at first and then found out it was mistake.

Daniel is one of Glenda's friends and he had a litter, from what I remembered, of French Bulldogs. Hasn't anyone here had a very close friend with a litter and you helped out?? So cool your jets!

I do not believe that Glenda would ever sell to pet shops. She loves her dogs very much and she is so poplular does not need to sell to pet shops. She is well known in the show world and goes to NY Speciality/Westminster, her local Speciality shows, she would Never sell to pet shops. And yes, she is very nice!

[jrsygal37]

I hope that it's cleared up. As I said I spoke with Glenda over a year ago after losing our 10 yr. old Yorkie to cancer. She was very nice and made a very nice offer to me with regards to a young male she had. I decided to hold off as I realized that I just wasn't ready yet. She seemed like good people. The person posting may believe what she has is accurate and this is why I'm saying the best way to end this one way or the other is to find out for sure just what the info is that she has and where it came from. I really do not believe that the original poster is being malicious but she could have picked up bad info. Elaine