Starting with a healthy good quality foundation for breeding!

[LunasMomma]

Originally Posted by Lorraine

This is one of the reasons why I have stayed on YT. I wanted to be able to try to give as much information about the Yorkie breed, legitimate registries, and how reputable breeders work what they do and don't do and why. There are other show breeders on this board that are here for the same reason. I am glad they are.
I hope the OP is indeed serious about being a reputable show breeder. BUT that will be up to her.
Reputable show breeders are very very hard to fool if the intent of anyone approaching them for open/show dogs has not really changed for the reason for breeding as we have seen so many try to appear interested in doing things different. Too many reputable breeders have been burned over the years so are triple cautious.
Actually, most reputable show breeders with winning dogs, good lines etc, have so many other long time reputable show breeders looking for a show dog from them, they really don't want to risk a problem. I know of show breeders that have neutered/spayed a nice show potential rather than taking the risk of someone unknown or already been breeding/selling whatever for a while, who says they want to show.
Remember even the reputable show breeder has to be able to sleep nights.

Thank the Heavens that you all are here!!!! I'm sure you've saved countless dogs' lives that you don't even know about because a lot of folks read here without ever posting. Doing a lot of reading here is what convinced me that breeding was NOT for me! You all really educated me on what goes into a GOOD breeding program. I, like many others, ignorantly thought that the dogs did all the work and the puppies would make me money Of course, I wanted to do things properly as I love this breed and alas have neither the resources nor the stomach for it. MUCH respect to all the reputable breeders, you bring joy to anyone lucky enough to own one of your dogs and spend all your time and money on it. Kudos to you ALL

Suncera, I am glad to see that you are wanting to do things the right way. I hope you're able to find a mentor to start learning from. You know any reputable breeder is going to check you out thoroughly so it would be in your best interest to tell them your whole story and how you've decided to do things the reputable and proper way. Good luck to you

[Suncera]

Thanks, all my dogs are on Eukanuva, have tried others that they don't do so well on, I've also invested in shampoos and conditioners, mink sheen, yorkisheen, and please if I'm not using the right shampoo and conditioners please tell me. I have only breed three times as I have stated in my last post, I'm ashamed to say mentors knew nothing of my breedings, I know I should not say but, I feel blue ivy is a result to my ignorance of my mistakes, I ask for forgiveness and again will care for her for what ever is needing to be done. I know that I am not the only one that has had a blue born and I know that their are probably others that hide their blue borns knowing that their is a genetic defect. I one have nothing to hide, if I'm wrong and doing something wrong I'm gonna say and admit I'm wrong, but if I'm doing something right and know it right I'm gonna stand up for it.

[concretegurl]

Originally Posted by Suncera

Yes i know now that i am not knowledgable enough. My husband and I are very disturbed now, noticing that some detailed information is revealed. Not sure if that is legal, and concerned if it is safe to still be a member here.

I'm confused, you feel you are doing something illegal?

I don't think that's what you meant and I hope it's not.

Being a member here is safe in the same way being a member of any other forum is, yes your site was shown and you were "outed" but realy anyone with any motivation could research that so it has nothing specifically to do with Yorkie Talk and legalities.

Once you are selling something and advertising it online you are open to public review, yes there are laws re guarding breeding etc-personally if I were in your shoes I'd stay to show how you truly are and how you are making efforts to learn and improve.

Honestly-I'm sorry if it's offensive but I'll be nothing less than totally honest with you-when people leave Yorkie Talk in my opinion it's because they had something to hide, didn't like the advice they received in an open forum or they didn't like the most comprehensive Yorkie forum in the world-it's all red flag to me.

I have legal issues around Yorkie Talk, the breeder I got my Elvis from is threatening to sue me because of my posts about the details in adopting Elvis as well my posts about his medical and behavioral issues having come from her-I don't care she's going to do what she's going to do and I'm going to keep telling my side of the situation-period.

I also posted a year or so ago about looking in the future for another pup and wanting to screen breeders and build a better relationship of a period of a few years before getting another Yorkie (buy the breeder not the dog this time) what a mess! I was recommended a breeder I was told the only way to contact them was their FB page so I "friended" them and started some general contact in regards to possibly getting a pup from her, WOW it went crazy down hill from there, they used my personal information off my page to post about me online (ridiculous they looked up everyone with my last name in my area and though someone else's business was mine and posted hideous things about their business) they posted my personal contact information all over the net I had about 20 weirdos sending me crazy threatening messages, calling my home between 1 amaand 5 am emailing Elvis' breeder and seller to start drama, and accusing me of things that had nothing to do with me (I guess they thought I was part of a rescue they had issues with). It was completely crazy in the end the "owner" emailed me it was all her bipolar sister and teenager and apologized but really if I didn't leave over all that (seriously they sent me text messages that they were coming to my house, attacking my kids online, and giving out my personal contact information making posts about me having kids and desirable dogs in my home-I should have taken the issue further but was pregnant overdue and just wanted them to stop harassing me).

I'm still here, I realize YT isn't to blame-crazy immoral people with no self control and serious dysfunction are-the internet just gives them a sense of hiding and anonymity thus the illusion of free reign.

So really you just have a thread showing you are trying to learn more and improve-I see nothing but mutual beneficial gain by you remaining at Yorkie Talk.

Feel free to go to my profile, check my stats and read over my posting thread history for more information.

Vitamins are always good they can improve over all health aiding in better results in a health issue they are not a cure but I'm sure Kendra gave you great treatment options for your Blue Ivy since she is going through all this with Mack.

I will say this in my experience using holistic overall health remedies and dietary aids really does make a difference.

Have you considered model prey, raw or barf diets?

We love Stella and Chewy's patties for raw meats here.

I'm not a fan of Eukenuba personally.

[KendraE]

Originally Posted by Suncera

Thanks, all my dogs are on Eukanuva, have tried others that they don't do so well on, I've also invested in shampoos and conditioners, mink sheen, yorkisheen, and please if I'm not using the right shampoo and conditioners please tell me. I have only breed three times as I have stated in my last post, I'm ashamed to say mentors knew nothing of my breedings, I know I should not say but, I feel blue ivy is a result to my ignorance of my mistakes, I ask for forgiveness and again will care for her for what ever is needing to be done. I know that I am not the only one that has had a blue born and I know that their are probably others that hide their blue borns knowing that their is a genetic defect. I one have nothing to hide, if I'm wrong and doing something wrong I'm gonna say and admit I'm wrong, but if I'm doing something right and know it right I'm gonna stand up for it.

I'm not a big fan of Eukanuba either... It a 2 or 3 star food I believe (don't quote me on that one), but if you read the ingredients, its not all that great! I have my guys on Taste of the Wild...they have loved it from day 1. There are several really good foods out there that are all natural and grain free. There's some really good threads on here about food if you do a search.

[Suncera]

Lunas your right, I have along ways if I want to do the right thing by the breed. I do plan on staying, as well as informed my website designer to cancel my page until its decided if I'm ready or not. Do not intend on leaving YT, for along with other resources I feel is very helpful to me. I'm not a quiter and believe that you can succeed with the right knowledge and help. Haven't tried raw diets, my husband gives that to his dogs, chicken, eggs, etc. but didn't and never thought that it would be good for my little babies.

[concretegurl]

Originally Posted by KendraE

I'm not a big fan of Eukanuba either... It a 2 or 3 star food I believe (don't quote me on that one), but if you read the ingredients, its not all that great! I have my guys on Taste of the Wild...they have loved it from day 1. There are several really good foods out there that are all natural and grain free. There's some really good threads on here about food if you do a search.

Have you heard about the TOTW recalls?

I'm lucky it hasn't been recalled in CA yet, neither have any other of their brands in CA.

I'm phasing in full model prey raw and barf due to the recalls it's just to scary for me since i have special needs dogs too and a food poising issue could potentially lead to death.

[KendraE]

Originally Posted by concretegurl

Have you heard about the TOTW recalls?

I'm lucky it hasn't been recalled in CA yet, neither have any other of their brands in CA.

I'm phasing in full model prey raw and barf due to the recalls it's just to scary for me since i have special needs dogs too and a food poising issue could potentially lead to death.

No! Whats the deal??

[KendraE]

Just read it...Luckily Texas isn't listed either! Bout had a heart attack!

[msyorktown]

sorry to hijack...where is the list of TOTW recalls? I'm in Ontario, Canada and my cats are onTOTW...my yorkies are on Blue Buffalo, but I'm planning on switching them to Fromm...thanks for the heads up

[lynzy420]

Originally Posted by msyorktown

sorry to hijack...where is the list of TOTW recalls? I'm in Ontario, Canada and my cats are onTOTW...my yorkies are on Blue Buffalo, but I'm planning on switching them to Fromm...thanks for the heads up

Diamond adds cat food to the growing list of recalled pet foods because of 'potiental' salmonella infantis contamination

[msyorktown]

Originally Posted by lynzy420

Diamond adds cat food to the growing list of recalled pet foods because of 'potiental' salmonella infantis contamination

Thanks Lynzy...guess I'll be switching the cats' food as well...better safe than sorry!

[concretegurl]

I swear by TOTW, we love it, however I also always error on the side of caution so...

[msyorktown]

i hear you concretegirl...me too

[gemy]

Originally Posted by Suncera

Thanks, all my dogs are on Eukanuva, have tried others that they don't do so well on, I've also invested in shampoos and conditioners, mink sheen, yorkisheen, and please if I'm not using the right shampoo and conditioners please tell me. I have only breed three times as I have stated in my last post, I'm ashamed to say mentors knew nothing of my breedings, I know I should not say but, I feel blue ivy is a result to my ignorance of my mistakes, I ask for forgiveness and again will care for her for what ever is needing to be done. I know that I am not the only one that has had a blue born and I know that their are probably others that hide their blue borns knowing that their is a genetic defect. I one have nothing to hide, if I'm wrong and doing something wrong I'm gonna say and admit I'm wrong, but if I'm doing something right and know it right I'm gonna stand up for it.

Suncera this is an extremely long thread If you want to learn there are many threads I've posted on some of the information/knowledge that you will need as a basis for breeding Yorkies.
Look up my nicname and see threads I have started. Oh heck I'll try to link some threads "usually from the breeders forum" from newbie breeders who have asked many similar questions.

There is also a web based learning tool that I posted about; this one is for learning about genetics. Here is the link: Genetics of Icelandic Sheepdogs Carol Beuchat

It is a good starting place.

Join your local dog club. If you have a Yorkshire Terrier club locally that is great, if not a toybreed club, if not then just a general club. Much and I mean much learning can happen.

You need (if you don't already have) to train your "eye" for a dog. Movement structure and temperament.
Your husband breeds American Pitbull? Unfortunately their correct movement is not the same as the YT. Look at other terrier breeds.

Order a copy of the illustrated standard from the YTCA it is only about $5 or so; it is hopelessly dated, but at this point in time it is what they have.

Visit their website frequently. See what seminars are coming up where, and plan on attending some; ditto your local dog club.

Take some time do a websearch and start reviewing all the videos out there for National Specialties. Watch the dogs move. Make your choices then see what the judges picked.

Know all the health problems a Yorkie can be troubled with. A good exercise is to spend 30 minutes a day in the Sick and INjured forum.

Learn some temperament tests, and start to observe the temperament tests that you husband does on his breed..

Go to Dog shows. Not just conformation but obedience. Get to see Yorkies competing not only in the conformation ring but the obedience, agility and rally arenas.

All this takes time, dedication, preserverance and money. But if this is your passion then go for it!

[Suncera]

Thanks Gemy, I am re grouping and willing to do the right thing, for yes this is my passion, thank you so much for all of the information. This will to go into my black bible as I call it for references that can always come back to.