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09-04-2008, 09:22 PM | #1 |
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| Continental Kennel Club??? I bought a very expensive 3 month old tiny male yorkie from the U.S. I live in Canada. I was told the male was registerable and the contract stated the same. The breeder knew I planned on using the dog as a stud. I finally received the registration papers and found out that the puppy is Continental Kennel Club registerable, not AKC registered like the other dogs I have imported from the U.S. Before this, I had never heard of the Continental Kennel Club. I discovered that the Canadian Kennel club won't register him, and AKC won't register him -- my females are Canadian Kennel Club registered and AKC registered, so I can't register this stud's puppies with the Canadian Kennel Club or AKC??? Now what do I do -- the breeder is playing "dumb" but I should have followed my instincts b/c I sensed the whole time prior to purchase that she was quick to talk about other things when I would say "when do I get those registration papers... he is registered isn't he..." in hindsight I'm sure she knew back then that this would cause me problems -- any suggestions? |
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09-04-2008, 09:57 PM | #2 |
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| If your contract didn't state that the dog was specifically AKC registerable, then I'm not sure there is much you can do. In your conversations leading up to the sale of the dog, did the breeder ever actually say he was AKC eligible? If the breeder has a website, was there any misleading info on it? I really don't know much about the world of kennel clubs, and hopefully someone else here can give you some good advice. I'm sorry this happened to you - some breeders' lack of ethics are absolutely astounding.
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09-04-2008, 10:06 PM | #3 |
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| Unfortunately the continental kc is a bogus registry and there is no way to get your little guy registered with CKC(canadian) or AKC. If you do produce puppies with him you can only register them with continental kc. Most people that "register" with continental kc are puppy mills that dont want to deal with AKC unnanounced inspections and DNA rules. Also, alot of breeders that got their AKC priveledges suspended for whatever reasons, resort to continental to "register" their dogs in order to sell "registered" puppies. Sorry this "breeder" was not honest with you.
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09-04-2008, 10:33 PM | #4 | |
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I think you can double register your female so she would be AKC and CKC that way the pups can be registered as CKC, BUt you cant register them as AKC. | |
09-05-2008, 03:32 AM | #5 |
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| that is not true that all ckc is puppymills, yes it is true you can not reg them akc,but you can reg him ckc and he has double reg,I had to do that with one of my dogs,There are so many reg clubs out there and one does not like the other etc.To me reg is just a paper, your job is produce good quility puppys. Learn more about ckc.But yes she should of told you. |
09-05-2008, 03:39 AM | #6 |
Donating YT 2000 Club Member | You can register them CKC. I have a beautiful female that is CKC and she did not come from a puppy mill and I am not a puppy mill either. I have seen some CKC Yorkies that looked better than some AKC.
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09-05-2008, 04:04 AM | #7 |
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| I agree Reg. papers are just papers I have a yorkie i bought in Ireland and he is ukc registerd this was almost 7 years. Hes a wonderful dog. 2 years ago I purchased a female ckc registered she is perfect to breed standard. I breed now and im no puppy mill however my dogs have to be ckc reg. I believe if u meet your breeder and they are caring and loving of there pets and home, family ect. Go for it!
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09-05-2008, 04:08 AM | #8 |
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| Unless the breeder misrepresented to you what registration she was using for her pups, then I'm not sure there is much you CAN do. You will not be able to register him or the pups w/ Canadian KC or AKC, unfortunately. Not all CKC breeders are shady, dishonest puppy millers--there are dishonest breeders in ANY and EVERY registry. But it does sound like you had the unfortunate experience of dealing with someone who cared more about getting a sale than working with you, the new owner. Last edited by BamaFan121s; 09-05-2008 at 04:09 AM. |
09-05-2008, 11:19 AM | #9 |
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09-05-2008, 11:45 AM | #10 |
I ♥ Joey & Ralphie! Donating Member | This is one of the problems I have with the Continental Kennel Club, I believe they choose those initials to mislead people into thinking the dogs were registered with the legitimate Canadian Kennel Club. The Continental Kennel Club will register just about any dog, so their registry seems rather worthless to me. I don't know why people say you can have dual registration; if your dogs aren't eligible for the AKC you can't register them with it. Just because the Continental Kennel Club allows you to register them AKC, CKC, this means nothing. I'm not sure what your recourse is. I would see an attorney. I also would list the name of the breeder in the Breeder Review Forum Breeder, Vet, & Groomer Reviews - YorkieTalk.com Forums - Yorkshire Terrier Community If this happened with a person who just wanted a pet, it wouldn't be so bad, but since you are planning on breeding, this dog won't fill your needs. You know it's almost like if someone started a registry called the Agriculture Kennel Club, and said that the dogs were AKC.
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09-06-2008, 09:30 AM | #11 |
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| I guess probably what I will have to do is register my puppies now through the Continental Kennel Club -- not something I want to do b/c I've always dealt with the Canadian Kennel Club. What bothers me even more is the fact that it makes it difficult for me to offer this little boy to others for a stud, since their females are going to be Canadian Kennel Club registered -- I am basically offering them a "non-registered" stud. My only other "stud" purchase was a puppy I bought about 3 years years ago from the Chaffins in Oklahoma. (I once started a thread on it). They had promised me the puppy would be 2-3 lbs as an adult. When I got him at 8 weeks he was already 2 pounds and grew into a 12 pound yorkie who is now neutered. I have heard that the Chaffins are now out of business on all kinds of fraud charges... anyways I told this story to the breeder (Jennifer) who I bought this (my second) stud from ... her response was "how could they do that to you", and then she turned around and was dishonest with me ... I'm finding this breeding stuff really discouraging. |
09-06-2008, 09:38 AM | #12 |
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| Wow people are just shameless
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09-06-2008, 10:11 AM | #13 | |
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09-06-2008, 10:23 AM | #14 |
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| Continental Kennel Club does not mean they are puppy mill dogs. Thats crazy. I know a lot of CKC breeders. One that I got my female from has a very small breeding program and her breeding dogs are healthy and are treated like they should be, SPOILED. Her Yorkies are CKC but only because this Female the mother to my Minnie never got her papers. the people moved away and so they just ended up reg her CKC she was breeded to a CH AKC Yorkie. there for the pups are CKC and they are no less then AKC Yorkie to me. as a Matter of fact I paid more for my CKC Female then I did for my CH AkC male. almost double. When I talke dto them I thought she was AKC even when I paid for her. but knew before I left their house, But I still wanted her . Last edited by YorkieShadow; 09-06-2008 at 10:25 AM. |
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