Let's discuss the intent / direction of this section

[coolcowsmoo]

I really don't think I'm missing the "point" here, because there are several "points" of view here not just one. Aymee seems like a delightful person who is very creative and her intent from what I've read and seen didn't seem to be selling and she seems very gracious about accepting all the "complaints" from people who see it that way (that speaks volumes in my opinion).

I still think it sounds petty. Again, if people don't want to look at it, buy it or agree with it, don't read it. Pass it over. I enjoy seeing everyone's creative side, the fact that they my sell a few of those items doesn't bother me a bit. I think people should ask themselves why it bothers them if someone is not being offensive, which Aymee was definitely not, why they would mind.

[GeorgiesMomma]

Originally Posted by coolcowsmoo

I really don't think I'm missing the "point" here, because there are several "points" of view here not just one. Aymee seems like a delightful person who is very creative and her intent from what I've read and seen didn't seem to be selling and she seems very gracious about accepting all the "complaints" from people who see it that way (that speaks volumes in my opinion).

I still think it sounds petty. Again, if people don't want to look at it, buy it or agree with it, don't read it. Pass it over. I enjoy seeing everyone's creative side, the fact that they my sell a few of those items doesn't bother me a bit. I think people should ask themselves why it bothers them if someone is not being offensive, which Aymee was definitely not, why they would mind.

Agreed!!!!

[Micah my love]

I always look forward to seeing Aymee's new creations, she is so very talented

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by coolcowsmoo

I really don't think I'm missing the "point" here, because there are several "points" of view here not just one. Aymee seems like a delightful person who is very creative and her intent from what I've read and seen didn't seem to be selling and she seems very gracious about accepting all the "complaints" from people who see it that way (that speaks volumes in my opinion).

I still think it sounds petty. Again, if people don't want to look at it, buy it or agree with it, don't read it. Pass it over. I enjoy seeing everyone's creative side, the fact that they my sell a few of those items doesn't bother me a bit. I think people should ask themselves why it bothers them if someone is not being offensive, which Aymee was definitely not, why they would mind.

When I said point "real point", I was not referring to one side or the other. I was referring to the admin and mod setting rules in place for this forum. I don't believe they were acting petty at all.

[coolcowsmoo]

Originally Posted by ladyjane

When I said point "real point", I was not referring to one side or the other. I was referring to the admin and mod setting rules in place for this forum. I don't believe they were acting petty at all.

Oh, I'm sorry, my bad. I didn't realize it was the moderator who brought it up, I thought it was all the complainers contacting the moderator that were "bothered" about it, even though they say they really have not vested interest and "don't care".

Again, if they don't care, aren't interested and aren't selling, then pass it over. It's really not that difficult

I suppose we will have to agree to disagree on this one, and that's okay. What's not okay is we will see less of a very talented individuals creations and that's a loss for everyone

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by coolcowsmoo

Oh, I'm sorry, my bad. I didn't realize it was the moderator who brought it up, I thought it was all the complainers contacting the moderator that were "bothered" about it, even though they say they really have not vested interest and "don't care".

Again, if they don't care, aren't interested and aren't selling, then pass it over. It's really not that difficult

I suppose we will have to agree to disagree on this one, and that's okay. What's not okay is we will see less of a very talented individuals creations and that's a loss for everyone

This is nothing new on YT....it is how the forum works. And, clearly the mod and admin saw that there was an issue or it would not have been brought up. They don't just do things to satisfy complainers.

As for your last line, I don't think anyone will see less of her creations. She can still post them and she clearly has given people options for viewing on other sites.

I don't think the intent was to stop her from posting. At least I don't see it that way.

[coolcowsmoo]

Originally Posted by ladyjane

This is nothing new on YT....it is how the forum works. And, clearly the mod and admin saw that there was an issue or it would not have been brought up. They don't just do things to satisfy complainers.

As for your last line, I don't think anyone will see less of her creations. She can still post them and she clearly has given people options for viewing on other sites.

I don't think the intent was to stop her from posting. At least I don't see it that way.

I think it was. I think you would like to post your creations but don't have the confidence too, and resent the fact that she does, and I think that's why most people complain about somebody else. It's unfortunate because we could all benefit from seeing both of your creative projects! (and anyone else's too)
I would also like to add that you have a very very cute puppy dawg! Simply adorable

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by coolcowsmoo

I think it was. I think you would like to post your creations but don't have the confidence too, and resent the fact that she does, and I think that's why most people complain about somebody else. It's unfortunate because we could all benefit from seeing both of your creative projects! (and anyone else's too)
I would also like to add that you have a very very cute puppy dawg! Simply adorable

And, I think your comments are condescending....not to mention the fact that you don't know me at all....or you would not suggest that I don't have the confidence to post something. I think most would chuckle at that comment.

The reason I have not posted them is because I do my best to follow forum rules. I DO feel people have circumvented them here and I don't care if you like my thoughts on that or not. I did not say they did it intentionally but one would have to wonder given the strong comments since the rule change.

As for your last remark, I don't consider it much of a compliment...merely a way for you to try to cover up your obvious ill intent.

[coolcowsmoo]

Geez you cant even agree to disagree :-\ what I meant by that was we could at least agree you have an adorable furball, no debating that!

[rilysmom]

Originally Posted by ladyjane

And, I think your comments are condescending....not to mention the fact that you don't know me at all....or you would not suggest that I don't have the confidence to post something. I think most would chuckle at that comment.

The reason I have not posted them is because I do my best to follow forum rules. I DO feel people have circumvented them here and I don't care if you like my thoughts on that or not. I did not say they did it intentionally but one would have to wonder given the strong comments since the rule change.

As for your last remark, I don't consider it much of a compliment...merely a way for you to try to cover up your obvious ill intent.

:thum bup:

[rilysmom]

Originally Posted by coolcowsmoo

I think it was. I think you would like to post your creations but don't have the confidence too, and resent the fact that she does, and I think that's why most people complain about somebody else. It's unfortunate because we could all benefit from seeing both of your creative projects! (and anyone else's too)
I would also like to add that you have a very very cute puppy dawg! Simply adorable

It simply is about setting rules/guidelines and everyone following them.....nothing more.

[coolcowsmoo]

I need to apologize to everyone who read my posts here and especially to ladyjane. I looked back over my posts and realized that I was, in fact, doing just what I was upset with everyone doing to Aymee. I was trying to push my opinion on everyone else when all I really had to do was give the moderator my vote on what I thought was fair, write Aymee privately and give her my support and then pass up reading all the negative comments.

I guess we all come here for different reasons and no one's is right or better than anyone elses. I just enjoy getting the advice I so need with my puppy (since I am a new puppy owner) and sharing the fun and loving stuff about owning a puppy with other people who understand.

I guess I will be taking my own advice now, ladyjane, and ask myself why I felt the need to point my "point" out to you. LOL I truly do apologize, hope you forgive me and won't let it happen again. I would take it all back (except for the part about your adorable pup )

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by coolcowsmoo

I need to apologize to everyone who read my posts here and especially to ladyjane. I looked back over my posts and realized that I was, in fact, doing just what I was upset with everyone doing to Aymee. I was trying to push my opinion on everyone else when all I really had to do was give the moderator my vote on what I thought was fair, write Aymee privately and give her my support and then pass up reading all the negative comments.

I guess we all come here for different reasons and no one's is right or better than anyone elses. I just enjoy getting the advice I so need with my puppy (since I am a new puppy owner) and sharing the fun and loving stuff about owning a puppy with other people who understand.

I guess I will be taking my own advice now, ladyjane, and ask myself why I felt the need to point my "point" out to you. LOL I truly do apologize, hope you forgive me and won't let it happen again. I would take it all back (except for the part about your adorable pup )

No worries. I have no axe to grind with anyone on this forum...I may not agree with them, but that's life. We cannot agree with everyone we meet. I don't know what you mean by negative comments posted in this thread, but again it is just I think that you believe they are. All of this, in my opinion, was about setting guidelines and also following rules.

Yes, YT is a valuable resource and part of the reason that it works is because of rules. There are lots of rules that I don't agree with, but that's always the way things are. I don't like speed limits either, but I try to abide by them because it allows me to continue driving. Same thing here on YT...if I follow the rules, I will be allowed to stay.

[GeorgiesMomma]

Originally Posted by coolcowsmoo

I need to apologize to everyone who read my posts here and especially to ladyjane. I looked back over my posts and realized that I was, in fact, doing just what I was upset with everyone doing to Aymee. I was trying to push my opinion on everyone else when all I really had to do was give the moderator my vote on what I thought was fair, write Aymee privately and give her my support and then pass up reading all the negative comments.

I guess we all come here for different reasons and no one's is right or better than anyone elses. I just enjoy getting the advice I so need with my puppy (since I am a new puppy owner) and sharing the fun and loving stuff about owning a puppy with other people who understand.

I guess I will be taking my own advice now, ladyjane, and ask myself why I felt the need to point my "point" out to you. LOL I truly do apologize, hope you forgive me and won't let it happen again. I would take it all back (except for the part about your adorable pup )

No need to apologize to me anyways. I see your point and happen to agree with most of what you said.

[DvlshAngel985]

Ann I have a question for you. What about 2 forums? I know this has been mentioned before, but that may be the solution to the "problem." A YT Craft Corner perhaps? people can share how to, share ideas, or what not about their daily, weekly, or monthly projects. And the fashion forum can be our red carpet of sorts. Pictures of yorkie a donning their new outfits whether made by heir mommy's, another YT member, or store bought. Just a thought! I know this would make one of my threads in the wrong forum.