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Old 04-21-2007, 12:19 PM   #31
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I agree, Dee, you shouldn't have to defend yourself when you were just sharing the good news.


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Old 04-21-2007, 12:22 PM   #32
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Kudos and Congratulations Grandma

I just read this - haven't seen this before - but how nice-

Just keep on doing what you are doing - you can't please everybody all the time

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I am so amazed at all this over a comment on a puppy

cull is a word used here in ky that is to place less than show in a home or a animal of any kind into another placement is does not mean the dog is bad just not to the show breeders standard many show breeders here use this word we are country people and we just use this word for less than perfect as for handlers i do know of a few that kept a dog to help support them showing other dogs even though they knew the dog would not finish i know a couple of yorkies poodle and maltese people that have had this happen to them So does having one litter out of champion lines mean i am a byb i also own a champion dog and a female hopefull just waiting to see if she breaks as i said all must get started some where i know many show breeders that have as many as 5 litters a year not all are show and must be placed so please tell me the difference show breeders also bred for the show dog but pets they place also help support there showing it is a very expensive and can cost up to 5000 for just a championship, specialty it just more expence to get into and not all are up to showing some can not handle the bickering that goes on between show people you must be tough to show a dog no matter what bred i showed gsd for 10 years so i know how tough it can get and how much can go into showing i have the highest respect for show people but i understand people wanting pets also. i guess in the future i will use my websters to make sure i am using the correct words for all so i do not offend anyone
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Congrats Dee Your Pups Are Beautiful!!! I Bet you Are A Very Proud Gramma!
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i think I said i got Silk from a well known show breeder. Well, I did and not only that but Frankie and kandy both came to me straight from a show breeder that was downsizing due to disability. i hadn't thought of it that way before but i guess that's why I have had some show quality puppies from my litters. All three adult females from show breeders that are actively exhibiting. Now, dixie, bless her little heart, will probably just have little pet babies and that is fine. She is so sweet and is going to make a great little mama. I didn't get her from a showw background but I did buy her as a pup and raised her.
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It is common for Show Breeders to use the term culling when sending non-show quality puppies to pet homes. This isn't a derogative term. Let me site some literature for you to read: 'The Joy of Breeding Your Own Show Dog' by Ann Seranne. Hardback version -- pg: 202 -- Chapter 9: Evaluating Puppies and Young Adults -- section title ' Culling a Litter'. 'The second culling should be done at around twelve weeks. Many faults begin to appear during the weaning and socializing periods, so that by the time a puppy is three months of age, the experienced breeder will be able to say, "Let that one go to a pet home." '

Definition from 'The American Heritage Dictionary'

cull - v. 1. To pick out from others; select 2. To gather; collect 3. Something picked out from others, especially something rejected because of inferior quality.

I find it silly for others to begin to attack people when they do not even understand the definition of the word they are attacking them on. I hope I've lessened the ignorance.
I so want to thank you for your valuable information, but yes, I do know what the word means. It can be used in different ways and it appeared to me to be used in a derogative way. So sorry I can't read the minds of the posters on here, I can only react to what appears to be said in regards to the entire text. I also was not attacking anyone, I was simply relating my feeling on what was said in the post. And thank you but, I have already read these and many more since I was showing dogs when you were born, so go attack, excuse me, educate, someone else.
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Congratulations Delores in becoming grandma once again........I am sure they will go fast

On a side note, I'd hate to have any dog be considered a cull-especially one from reputable breeders..... It's such a derrogatory word..... If the dogs that show breeders don't keep and sell are considerd "cull"......I'd hate to think what mine is considered

Jessy,

Learning time again....Culling is a common word used by show breeders....it is not derrogatory.....it means assessing your litter for your show quality....not that the litter isn't beautiful....but, one, just maybe one has that extra "I've got what it takes and I dare you not to put me up look"....

Show Breeders that have been in this for countless number of years will tell you that they consider themselves very blessed if they get 1 possible show dog in every 6 litters.....2 It's a jackpot......and they get down on their knees and give thanks......dramatic, but oh so true.
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well everyone i am 50 so i guess i have only been showing for a few toddler years hey dee close this thread it is getting out of text all together sheeeeew you will have great babies and i dont think having only a very few dogs makes you a byb i think you must have a few more to me a byb would be someone putting out pups every month just a couple a year well you know how i feel .... its not your fauly all your girls come in close together
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thank you mardelin you got what it takes to tell it like it is
at least you know the term i was only making a simple comment it takes a lot when breeding and showing it is a very simple term word
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well everyone i am 50 so i guess i have only been showing for a few toddler years hey dee close this thread it is getting out of text all together sheeeeew you will have great babies and i dont think having only a very few dogs makes you a byb i think you must have a few more to me a byb would be someone putting out pups every month just a couple a year well you know how i feel .... its not your fauly all your girls come in close together

I've got you beat....I'm 60.....started after I did my up front emersing myself in the breed.....countless years, months, days and hours of studying, genetics, breeding, pedigrees, going to shows and grooming....

I'm amazed when I see the Yorkboro's, Rothby, Pastoral women in the ring, women in the 60, 70 & 80s waltzing around that ring like they are still in their twenties.....If they can do it so can I.
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okay, since this thread haas gotten way OFF TOPIC I am done. Thank you to all those that have congratulated me on my new litter and pm's support to me. to the rest of you, well, you have been educated a little today so consider yourself blesssed. mary Ann, just so you know, because I think everyone else already knows, I don't breed in my back yard. it happens in my living room!!!! thought I'd have a little fun with that.
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I so want to thank you for your valuable information, but yes, I do know what the word means. It can be used in different ways and it appeared to me to be used in a derogative way. So sorry I can't read the minds of the posters on here, I can only react to what appears to be said in regards to the entire text. I also was not attacking anyone, I was simply relating my feeling on what was said in the post. And thank you but, I have already read these and many more since I was showing dogs when you were born, so go attack, excuse me, educate, someone else.
Mary Ann,

It does have a negative connentation to it...I remember the first time I heard the Wise One use it I thought she was going to kill the puppies....
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Learning time again....Culling is a common word used by show breeders....it is not derrogatory.....it means assessing your litter for your show quality....not that the litter isn't beautiful....but, one, just maybe one has that extra "I've got what it takes and I dare you not to put me up look"....

Show Breeders that have been in this for countless number of years will tell you that they consider themselves very blessed if they get 1 possible show dog in every 6 litters.....2 It's a jackpot......and they get down on their knees and give thanks......dramatic, but oh so true.
Thank you Mary I guess I am still young and naive and have lots to learn. I am glad to be starting young.......I hope to have half your knowlege when I hit 60!!

and wow, just one possible show dog in every 6 litters? That really gets one thinking eh.
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