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08-18-2006, 11:32 AM | #1 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Virginia
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| Help with new puppies My vet is absolutely no help. I spent over $1,000.00 this week and they want to charge me $30.00 for a 20 minute phone consultation. It's not the money, it's the principle of it. Anyway, I have two puppies born last Sunday morning. They have each gained about an oz since then. Is that enough? They won't bottle feed and the mother doesn't have much milk it seems like as she won't eat much. She is drinking a little of the baby formula and a little Hills AD. They want to nurse all the time, but they have gained a little each day although I'm supplementing it with tube feeding which I hate. Can anyone out there tell me if they are gaining at a normal rate and if they are gaining, can I quit tube feeding them? Thanks so much. |
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08-18-2006, 11:36 AM | #2 |
Princess Bella Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: virginia
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| I don't have any advice, I just wanted to say congrats on the little ones!
__________________ I miss you two more then words can express, but I still have hope that I'll find you and hold you again! Tucker and Teddy always say: "If I want it, it's mine and if I put it in my mouth, it's food." |
08-18-2006, 11:51 AM | #3 |
Princess Bella Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: virginia
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__________________ I miss you two more then words can express, but I still have hope that I'll find you and hold you again! Tucker and Teddy always say: "If I want it, it's mine and if I put it in my mouth, it's food." |
08-18-2006, 12:55 PM | #4 |
Mom to 6 Beautiful Furkids Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Ohio
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| If the mother does not have much milk, then you should continue to tube feed them; the pups are probably getting the nutrition from you tube feeding them and if you stop tube feeding them then things would go worse. As for the gaining, I am not sure if there is a set weight gain that they should achieve, but I was always told that they should gain a little each day and should not lose any weight. Sorry I can't be more help. Good Luck with the puppies!!
__________________ A dog is a furry person! http://www.dogster.com/?300866 Tracey and the gang DestinyHarmonyScamperGracieLillieKiwi Hershey Peppi |
08-18-2006, 01:14 PM | #5 |
Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Indiana
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| When my Emilee's milk dried up because of mastitis, I used an eye dropper and laid it right by the nipple and as they nursed from her they were getting it from the eye dropper. Is there a reason why you are tube feeding instead of bottle or eye dropper?
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08-18-2006, 02:44 PM | #6 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Virginia
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| Yorkie 3, I've tried bottle feeding them and they won't take the bottle. The vet recommended tube feeding them. I guess I will continue it because I don't know how much milk they are getting from Sweet Pea. It's just so scarey because she had 4 and the two that died were fine one minute and crashed the next. |
08-18-2006, 03:14 PM | #7 | |
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08-18-2006, 03:47 PM | #8 |
Love The Verminator! Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: ny
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| No advice to offer, but I have used eyedroppers and cloths the corner of a cloth soaked in milk to take care of other newborns. Just wanted to say I'm sorry you lost 2 and send prayers for the others. Good luck. |
08-18-2006, 04:03 PM | #9 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Virginia
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| Thanks everyone. One very nice person connected me with a breeder who gave me wonderful advice. She said to weigh the pups 4 times a day to make sure they are gaining weight. As for the mother, I am to get baby cereal, chicken baby food and goats milk. Give it to her and if she won't eat it, to put it in a turkey baster and force feed her. She's the problem - the pups are trying to nurse like crazy but she's not eating enough to produce enough milk. Anyway, again thanks. I feel so much better now! When I can figure out how to, I will post pictures of them all. |
08-18-2006, 04:35 PM | #10 |
YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bacliff, TX
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| I have pups due any minute and read on DebbieJensen.com to give the mother a couple of teaspoons of beer if she's not producing any milk. I have no idea what it does, but it might help - then drink the rest - it'll calm you down a little! Best of luck. I had to bottle feed eight boxer pups after their mom passed when they were six days old - 48 bottles a day. It's worth the effort, so don't give up. Prayers up for you and the babies - AND mom. |
08-18-2006, 04:37 PM | #11 |
YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bacliff, TX
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| Just thought of something else I used to do when my elderly Yorkie wouldn't eat much, I'd cook rice and put in a bullion cube. He lapped it up. One cup rice, two cups water and one chicken or beef bullion cube. Sometimes I'd just make the bullion water and mix it with cooked rice and food. He never turned his nose up to it. |
08-18-2006, 05:22 PM | #12 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Virginia
Posts: 44
| Thanks ChestersMom, due to the fact that we have treated the mother like the princess she is, we had been giving her chicken and rice on a steady basis because she has always been a picky eater. So now, she won't eat that at all. But thanks for the advice. I'll go pick up some beer tomorrow! |
08-18-2006, 05:39 PM | #13 |
No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida
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| pups Just because you can not express milk does not mean mom does not have any. Milk tends to "let down" as the pups nurse..I could not get milk out of alot of my moms, but the pups grew and were happy. The pups need to nurse on mom, the more they do, the more milk will come in...are they content, warm and not crying..if so they are getting enough food..you say they are gaining each day..some lose the first day and start gaining the second..so you are ahead. I am not an eye dropper user JMO..too easy to asperiate the milk..a hungry pup will most always nurse a bottle..a not so hungry won't..they do not sound hungry to me. Keep them warm and weigh them..not sure what 4 times a day will tell you..the amount may be so small you can not see a gain and panic..AM/PM works well..but simply a matter of opinion. Look for a "breeder friendly" vet if you breed again..some are not in favor of breeding and make it hard to get good answers and help. Best wishes |
08-18-2006, 06:07 PM | #14 |
Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Missouri
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| I've been trying to find a way to offer more advice, but can't offer anything more than what YorkieRose just said. My gut instinct is that the puppies are getting what they need from mom. Keep them together and just watch and make sure they nurse. I can't remember now... when did she deliver?
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08-18-2006, 11:26 PM | #15 | |
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