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mypreciouspups · 09-12-2009, 07:13 AM

Oh how cute the babies are.. and they sure grow up so fast... anne

JeanieK · 09-12-2009, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by tjdmom

Adorable! I bet they will be just beautiful when they are all grown!
So I assume this means mom must be a golden "carrier" as well?

Yes I am pretty sure that the gold has to be on both sides.

JeanieK · 09-12-2009, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BLowry

OMG!! they are ADORABLE!! I so wish hubby would agree to me getting another..I would scoop one of those goldens up in a second!!

These will be sold really reasonable since they they will not be registered.

luckylady · 09-13-2009, 06:26 AM

OMG, nothing much cuter than a pile of yorkie puppies! With the two goldens, and I see one with two little with back feet.........what a variety of sweetness you have there. I'm anxious to see them change as they grow.

ArmyWife313 · 09-13-2009, 08:15 AM

Nothing sweeter than those pics!

PiePiper · 09-13-2009, 08:51 AM

Cute! Cute! Cute! Congratulations on your beautiful babies. I love their names.

Knitter · 09-13-2009, 08:56 AM

Congratulations on your beautiful babies. May they grow and bring joy to you and the Moms and Dads who will get to have them for life.

SANDYSAND · 09-13-2009, 09:49 AM

They are so cute....I love the last group pic.....those belly's look so tempting & kissables.

JeanieK · 09-13-2009, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by luckylady

OMG, nothing much cuter than a pile of yorkie puppies! With the two goldens, and I see one with two little with back feet.........what a variety of sweetness you have there. I'm anxious to see them change as they grow.

The one with the white feet is the little girl. Can you tell. LOL

ritzydaisy · 09-13-2009, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JeanieK

My babies are 2 weeks old today. All are in the 12 ounce range, except the little one, he is only 8 ounces.

Attachment 291574

left to right
Micah, Noah, Jonah, Lucah, Kenna

Could that get any cuter?? I don't think so.

Sookie · 09-14-2009, 07:14 AM

They are so adorable. That picture of them all sleeping with the tiny one squeezed in is just PRECIOUS!! Congrats!

FlDebra · 09-14-2009, 07:55 AM

I am confused as to why you are breeding these two "so-called-goldens" and this time to a female you do not have papers on. Both of the adult dogs you have on your site and are calling "goldens" seem to have plenty of black hair. Their gold/tan hair just intermingles as described in the Yorkie standard as a fault in the color. They just seem to be an extreme example of the wrongly intermingled blue and tan/fawn hairs. There are plenty of dogs that do not meet yorkie standard one way or another in regard to colors. AKC standard:

"Blue: Is a dark steel-blue, not a silver-blue and not mingled with fawn, bronzy or black hairs. Tan: All tan hair is darker at the roots than in the middle, shading to still lighter tan at the tips. There should be no sooty or black hair intermingled with any of the tan.
Color on Body
The blue extends over the body from back of neck to root of tail. Hair on tail is a darker blue, especially at end of tail.

Headfall
A rich golden tan, deeper in color at sides of head, at ear roots and on the muzzle, with ears a deep rich tan. Tan color should not extend down on back of neck.

Chest and Legs
A bright, rich tan, not extending above the elbow on the forelegs nor above the stifle on the hind legs."

I think they are adorable, as I do all puppies. But I do not understand why this breeding would be any different from another unregistered mating, or any other faults that are continued by breeding. It definately is not breeding to standard and I can't see why you would do it. I am open to hearing the reasoning, I just sincerely do not understand. To me, these would be cute little puppies to spay and neuter and love the rest of their lives not to breed and wind up with a litter of 2 more "golden" (which will probably also wind up with the intermingling of blue and tan, and not turn all gold), and one pup with white feet. Isn't the goal to wind up with pups that DO look like yorkies not see how far they can deviate?

I hope I have worded this carefully enough so that you know I am not insulting the pups. They are cute and may wind up being fun pets, but I guess my question is why intentionally breed for faults? How is it different than breeding 12 pounders, extremely long muzzled, all black, smooth-coated, poor toplines, leather eared, wiry-haired, or any other faults?

JeanieK · 09-17-2009, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by FlDebra

I am confused as to why you are breeding these two "so-called-goldens" and this time to a female you do not have papers on. Both of the adult dogs you have on your site and are calling "goldens" seem to have plenty of black hair. Their gold/tan hair just intermingles as described in the Yorkie standard as a fault in the color. They just seem to be an extreme example of the wrongly intermingled blue and tan/fawn hairs. There are plenty of dogs that do not meet yorkie standard one way or another in regard to colors. AKC standard:

"Blue: Is a dark steel-blue, not a silver-blue and not mingled with fawn, bronzy or black hairs. Tan: All tan hair is darker at the roots than in the middle, shading to still lighter tan at the tips. There should be no sooty or black hair intermingled with any of the tan.
Color on Body
The blue extends over the body from back of neck to root of tail. Hair on tail is a darker blue, especially at nd of tail.

Headfall
A rich golden tan, deeper in color at sides of head, at ear roots and on the muzzle, with ears a deep rich tan. Tan color should not extend down on back of neck.

Chest and Legs
A bright, rich tan, not extending above the elbow on the forelegs nor above the stifle on the hind legs."

I think they are adorable, as I do all puppies. But I do not understand why this breeding would be any different from another unregistered mating, or any other faults that are continued by breeding. It definately is not breeding to standard and I can't see why you would do it. I am open to hearing the reasoning, I just sincerely do not understand. To me, these would be cute little puppies to spay and neuter and love the rest of their lives not to breed and wind up with a litter of 2 more "golden" (which will probably also wind up with the intermingling of blue and tan, and not turn all gold), and one pup with white feet. Isn't the goal to wind up with pups that DO look like yorkies not see how far they can deviate?

I hope I have worded this carefully enough so that you know I am not insulting the pups. They are cute and may wind up being fun pets, but I guess my question is why intentionally breed for faults? How is it different than breeding 12 pounders, extremely long muzzled, all black, smooth-coated, poor toplines, leather eared, wiry-haired, or any other faults?

Oh honey, no offense taken. Glad you did not insult the pups though, because then I would have had to get defensive.

The mother IS purebred, and IS registered. She is one of mine. I just have not gotten the papers on her from the person that I sold her to. They moved to Germany.

Anyway. I breed for the goldens and the partis, because they are part of the original yorkie make ujp. I do not allow some CLUB, to dictate to me how I run my breeding program, or live my life.

Every new breed, or new color, or new standard, has come about because a few people were not afraid to look "outside of the box."

I'm just not an "in the box" type of person.

If you are, that is fine, I will not put you down for that, and I do not take it personally when someone thinks I should live "in the box". I just pity them for having no spirit.

Now, please move along, and do not use my puppy thread, to spew your beliefs. Start your own thread.

Thank you.

sapo1009 · 09-17-2009, 05:05 PM

OH wow, I think you can get them registered as long as you get the papers. I Was able to get mine registered one year later. The lady lost my lolas papers and I didntthink I would ever get them well one day they showed up and I registered them and my puppies I kept two were almost a year old and I wasable to get them as well. However I had to pay some late fees. I hope you can get them their papers. They will be beautiful either way. Cant wait to see when you post in the for sale

jmdt · 09-17-2009, 05:18 PM

Love those little puppy bellies. So cute

They are adorable. Mama did a good job!! (daddy too!!)

09-13-2009, 06:26 AM	#19
luckylady Living My Yorkie Dream Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Nebraska Posts: 6,114 Blog Entries: 6	OMG, nothing much cuter than a pile of yorkie puppies! With the two goldens, and I see one with two little with back feet.........what a variety of sweetness you have there. I'm anxious to see them change as they grow. __________________ Rose Lucky,Toby, Hannah,Camie, & Reggie Heartland Biewers and Yorkies

09-13-2009, 08:51 AM	#21
PiePiper Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Connecticut Posts: 759	Cute! Cute! Cute! Congratulations on your beautiful babies. I love their names. __________________ Mom to Piper & Chipper

09-13-2009, 08:56 AM	#22
Knitter Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Lillian, Alabama Posts: 47 Blog Entries: 2	Goldie locks Congratulations on your beautiful babies. May they grow and bring joy to you and the Moms and Dads who will get to have them for life.

09-13-2009, 09:49 AM	#23
SANDYSAND Mommy Loves Koda & Kacy! Donating Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Home of the NY Yankees Posts: 6,500	They are so cute....I love the last group pic.....those belly's look so tempting & kissables. __________________ http://www.onetruemedia.com/shared?p=3a2e8eedc3dc6290fbd72e&skin_id=1603&utm_s ource=otm&utm_medium=text_url Mommy Loves:Koda & Kacy. Smile Life is a GIFT First Lady of the SRC~ Koda Benji

09-14-2009, 07:14 AM	#26
Sookie My Four Sweet Babies Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: South Jersey near Philadelphia Posts: 5,452	They are so adorable. That picture of them all sleeping with the tiny one squeezed in is just PRECIOUS!! Congrats! __________________ I LOVE MY BABIES

09-12-2009, 07:13 AM	#16
mypreciouspups Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Florida/Canada Posts: 5,514	Oh how cute the babies are.. and they sure grow up so fast... anne

09-13-2009, 08:15 AM	#20
ArmyWife313 Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: j Posts: 167	Nothing sweeter than those pics!

09-14-2009, 07:55 AM	#27
FlDebra Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: FL Posts: 7,651	I am confused as to why you are breeding these two "so-called-goldens" and this time to a female you do not have papers on. Both of the adult dogs you have on your site and are calling "goldens" seem to have plenty of black hair. Their gold/tan hair just intermingles as described in the Yorkie standard as a fault in the color. They just seem to be an extreme example of the wrongly intermingled blue and tan/fawn hairs. There are plenty of dogs that do not meet yorkie standard one way or another in regard to colors. AKC standard: "Blue: Is a dark steel-blue, not a silver-blue and not mingled with fawn, bronzy or black hairs. Tan: All tan hair is darker at the roots than in the middle, shading to still lighter tan at the tips. There should be no sooty or black hair intermingled with any of the tan. Color on Body The blue extends over the body from back of neck to root of tail. Hair on tail is a darker blue, especially at end of tail. Headfall A rich golden tan, deeper in color at sides of head, at ear roots and on the muzzle, with ears a deep rich tan. Tan color should not extend down on back of neck. Chest and Legs A bright, rich tan, not extending above the elbow on the forelegs nor above the stifle on the hind legs." I think they are adorable, as I do all puppies. But I do not understand why this breeding would be any different from another unregistered mating, or any other faults that are continued by breeding. It definately is not breeding to standard and I can't see why you would do it. I am open to hearing the reasoning, I just sincerely do not understand. To me, these would be cute little puppies to spay and neuter and love the rest of their lives not to breed and wind up with a litter of 2 more "golden" (which will probably also wind up with the intermingling of blue and tan, and not turn all gold), and one pup with white feet. Isn't the goal to wind up with pups that DO look like yorkies not see how far they can deviate? I hope I have worded this carefully enough so that you know I am not insulting the pups. They are cute and may wind up being fun pets, but I guess my question is why intentionally breed for faults? How is it different than breeding 12 pounders, extremely long muzzled, all black, smooth-coated, poor toplines, leather eared, wiry-haired, or any other faults? __________________ FlDebra and her ABCs Annie, Ben, Candy Promoting Healthy Breeding to the AKC Yorkshire Terrier Standard

09-17-2009, 05:05 PM	#29
sapo1009 YT Addict Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: MI Posts: 322	OH wow, I think you can get them registered as long as you get the papers. I Was able to get mine registered one year later. The lady lost my lolas papers and I didntthink I would ever get them well one day they showed up and I registered them and my puppies I kept two were almost a year old and I wasable to get them as well. However I had to pay some late fees. I hope you can get them their papers. They will be beautiful either way. Cant wait to see when you post in the for sale __________________ "LOVE A YORKIE" Christina

09-17-2009, 05:18 PM	#30
jmdt YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Long Island, NY USA Posts: 3,498	Love those little puppy bellies. So cute They are adorable. Mama did a good job!! (daddy too!!) __________________ Coco, Pebbles, Trixie, and Wally LOVE MY BABIES!!