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I know of someone that has purchased at least one possibly a second dog with WONDERFUL pedigrees...and are champion sired...with just a couple of phone calls. Of course, this person paid around $5,000 for each but this person also has no intentions of showing...but money is the prime factor in these sales. |
I guess I'll jump in. A Yorkie that doesn't clear colour on the head is considered 'sooty' and a serious fault. I have seen ribbons withheld on this. As for size, reputable show breeders don't even like producing puppies at all that will only grow to less than 4 lbs. Under 4lbs is considered to be undersized although that part is not specifically addressed int he breed standard. Under 4 lbs very often will come with health issues. Any puppies I have had that were particularly small I would not sell until they were old enough and of size for me to do the spay/neuter by my Vet and we determined it was fine healthwise. I would never consider selling for breeding or using an undersized male in a breeding program. Many judges are aware of that undersized is not desirable and will not generally put them up in the rings for the most part especially ones as small as 3 lbs. for more info on size, go to www.ytca.org click on the frequently asked questions tab and click on the info for size which is under 'teacup' which I know no one called this one teacup but size is addressed there and the reasons for it. |
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I see many breeders selling puppies, champion sired or champion lined, but not their champions on their kennel name rather off the work of someone else that they got a hold of the lines indirectly because a reputable show breeder trusted someone they now regret trusting. If this actually is a show breeder that has done this who shows the dogs themselves and the champions are their own kennel name, that is pretty disheartening and you can bet not many other show breeders are going to be willing to trust that breeder with their lines when they are looking for some new blood to bring into their lines. JMHO |
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Yes that would be pretty disheartening. It goes back to what I said earlier, you can't very readily get a show potential/quality dog from a Reputable Show Breeder. If you do, it's as you said and that person is only in it to make big $$$$$ and has not a clue what blood, sweat and tears went into perfecting that line and/or Ethics, Integrity and Trust. |
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Mary Ann, I was wondering when you were going to jump in on this. Did you get that e-mail off? Mary |
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I guess I should also point out that if a breeder is selling a dog for what they think is a show quality, how can they determine what is show quality and what isn't, if they don't show a dog either themselves or with a handler or have bred an actual show dog that finished its championship? My dogs and puppies have many championships in their pedigree, many I put there myself by showing my dogs. Not every pup in any of my litters are show dogs, those are sold for pet only no breeding. I might have one or at most two in a litter that are show quality, One or two that aren't, sometimes none are show quality. Yet the pedigrees are to die for whether they are show or pet. I often will run on a show potential to 6 months or older sometimes even 10 months and then decide this isn't a show dog afterall, spay/neuter and let it go to a pet home. In my opinion, a breeder has to be involved in showing, has to know pedigrees and lines and with a mentor will learn how to breed to hopefully produce a show dog. |
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The one I bought was so far from a show dog and NEVER ever should be bred which I didn't. I figured it out before I got to that point. I see far too many breeders saying the have champion line or champion sired puppies that have never seen a show ring themselves. Yet they will sell to a novice that doesn't know the puppy likely is not a show dog and actually could be a real problem if ever used for breeding becaiuse the seller doesn't know about what a show dog should look like, what could be in the pedigree that could be an issue including genetic problems because they are not involved in the show world themselves. |
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There are those that are in such a hurry, that they can be dupped by anyone passing themselves off as a show beeder because they've somehow obtained a dog with a great pedigree, but don't have a clue on how to breed great dogs. It takes time, work and lots of studying. |
I thought standard was 4 to 7 lbs?? But whoever that puppy was he is adorable, maybe not for showing, but I love his look, very cute!;) |
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