Looking for good/show quaility Male yorkie
 

I am looking for possibly show potential male with full registration in or around Indiana. I found one in Kentucky, that I am considering. He's 6 months old and "shouldn't" get more than 3lbs. She's asking $3000 for him. That is really not in my price range. I'm wondering if I'm going to find one for any less or am I just going to have to suck it up and pay the price?? Any help is much appriciated:)

I believe $3000 for a show quality is avarage.

3000 is the low end of a show dog. i have done lots lots and lots of searches everywhere and the low end is 3000

Do you have show dogs or just looking too? Can you recomend any show breeders?

Depends on the Kennel and what lines the dog is out of.

If it's from a Tyava, Rothby, Durrer, Parside or another reputable well known breeder/exhibitor, expect to pay that or more.

If you're planning on showing him, 3 pounds would be a bit difficult to finish.

I have thought about showing, I'm still researching it though. I'm still not sure how to get started. I've been told to go to shows and check them out but I can't seem to find when and where the shows are. lol I looked on YTCA to find some and the ones I seen are either going on right now (litterly today), already passed, or they're too far away. Is there a website with up comming shows?

Try Onofrio.com You have the ability to search for upcoming shows.

Think about this.....Your top dogs for 2006.

Ch. Tyava's Sure Shot (Chandler)
Ch. Marysark's Smooth As Silk (Smooth).....
Ch Grovshire's Fast and Furious (Fury)

Are not small boys. They are about in the 6 pound range.


There are very, very reputable exhibitor breeders out there, but they aren't going to readily turn lose their stock to just anyone. This has been discussed on several threads as to why.

Are you looking to show the dog, or use him for breeding purposes? That may make a difference in the show breeders that would be willing to do business with you. Many may not want their lines being bred without being shown...or many may not want their show quality dogs to 'miss their chance' and only be used for breeding purposes.

Good luck.

The prefered weight for a Yorkie in the show ring is 7 pounds or a little under, but the tiny's usually don't do well.

What do you think about this guy? He's 9 months old. I know you really can't tell much from pictures, just wanting your input. I trust you girls and your knowlege.

Show quality or not I think I'm going to grab up this little one! I just think he's breath taking!:D

At 9 months his head and face is not showing signs of clearing. But he is adorable

The breeder said that her dogs coats usually break their color rather late which she said was good. Is this right???

Yes you prefer them to break later, however, heads should not be this dark at 9 months. And with the new disqualification that much dark on the head, there is a good possibility of being diqualified. Texture is what is of prime importance.

And if this is the same 3 pound lil guy you were talking about....as was mentioned, small usually don't do well in the ring.

No, it's not the same puppy, the other one is 6 months old and his head is gold.

Thanks Mardelin for the heads up on the head! Would you still consider breeding him or not?
If you don't mind me asking why don't small ones do well in the ring? Remember I do not show but I am looking to possibly do it in the future.

oops..double post

So then the particular show potential male you are in search of now is just for breeding purposes, not for show? I can only speak of what I have experienced, but generally if a breeder produces a pup that they feel may do well in the ring, they want to make sure it is given the chance to do just that. Just be aware that may make a difference when working with breeders....especially if you are fairly new to breeding? Trust me, I've been down that road myself.:)

It would be a terrible waste for a breeder to let a show quality pup go to what they think is a show home only to find out it isn't. I hope no one pulls that one on a breeder.
That puppy is too dark for the ring, but I'll tell you one thing........if that was a little girl, I'd beat you to her. :D I LOVE his look!!!!

I will be breeding the male that I decide to get. I do plan on showing in the future and would rather get a show potential now, so when I do get ready or the puppy is ready, then I'll already have what I'm looking for. If the situation arises and I get a chance to get a show puppy and the breeder says that the dog must be shown then I will show him.
In general I was wondering if you would breed a yorkie with a darker head or not.
I know I posted a touchy thread but I am interested and would like some help.

What you're asking me cannot be answered with a yes or no. I never breed unless I've Championed a dog.
I didn't buy a dog to show without extensive research not only on the pedigree but, the breeder. My search was very detailed. Once I found the Breeder, it took me a year and half for her to get to know me and trust me with her line. I attended many shows, did alot of schlup work and jumping through hoops. And even after getting my show dog, I traveled with her and her then handler (I'm now her handler) to learn everything about grooming and handling, before she would allow me into the ring. I do not breed without her approval. My studs are only used for me and of course her. As she retains stud rights. Any dogs that leave my house are on a spay/nueter. And if by chance I happen to have a show potential/quality that I'm considering of letting go, I have to know the person on a very personal level and trust the 100% that they'll guard these lines. Even then, there is a very stringent contract.

So again, it's not a yes or a no answer.

As for why the little ones don't do well, I can't answer. I'm not saying a small male isn't finishable, but it is difficult. You want substance, body and bone on a dog.
Remember when going into the ring, you are asking the judge's approval of your breeding stock. So, it's in the best interest and the yorkie breed to take them the very best.

Not to mention the wast of money one would spend on a show dog and not show it. Show quality pups arn't cheep!
I love this look too, I'm not sure yet but I think I might get him anyway! I can't help it. :D

all the above PLUS, some will tie you up in a show contract so tight you won't even know you own the dog and sue you if you don't show and finish, Also they will tell you who you can breed or not breed to and most will co own the dog and retain all papers until the dog is finisheed. Lot's to think about.

I think he is very beautiful

The lineage of the female (as well as the male) you plan on breeding to (in regards to color for this matter) plays a big part of if a darker male should be bred. It's impossible to get a solid answer from anyone here on if he should or shouldn't be bred based off of a picture alone. Maybe your mentor could go with you to look at the little guy? (Mine was sure helpful in finding our stock.)

Lol...but he is a cutie and as you stated, you "can't help yourself" Sounds to me like you've already made your decision. I think Mardelin had an excellent point though...if you are dead set on a show potential dog for breeding, and this little guy is only going to be around 3 pounds...then he's not what you've described that your looking for.

I will look forward to seeing any cute pictures of any dog you select in any case!

I agree with you! You should!! He is adorable!!

The reason behind the stringent contract is so many show newbies have talked the talked and not walked the walk. All they wanted was a dog with a good pedigree to breed, to sell puppies. That's how many of wonderful pedigrees have ended up in BYB pedigrees. So, because of what has happened in the past the newcomers are now jumping through hoops.

Kind of the point I was trying to get to. I've never met any show breeder who will just hand over a show potential pup, full registration, so it can be bred and nothing else.

You are so right, and I've never met a show reputable breeder hand over a show dog to show just to anyone....you have to prove yourself.