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mojo5569 · 05-10-2005, 03:11 PM

i am looking for a 3-4lb male in ohio.... i am looking for a very high quality pup that would come with a genetic health guarentee. i spent good money on the male i have and just found out he has bad knees.... i WILL NOT breed a dog unless they are perfect and he was untill our last visit to the vet. i have become so attached that i cant get rid of him so im going to neuter him and be extra causious on my next purchase..... im willing to go to the surrounding states but i do want to pick up my pup rather than putting him on a plane.... please anyone who knows anyone or anyone who has an outstanding male under 4lbs please contact me, i appreciate it.

Olivier · 05-11-2005, 12:30 AM

Did the vet told you what he have ? It is very hard to have a perfect dog .

Diego · 05-11-2005, 01:06 AM

Does your vet told you it was genetic ?

Without offending you , what is a perfect Yorkie male is for you ?

dianesyorkies · 05-11-2005, 03:38 AM

HI,
DID the vet get specific? Is it the front or rear joints? Persistent or intermittent symptoms?

As a side note, I have found:
1-If your male is very small (and it’s the front) are you sure it’s not nutritional Ricketts? While this ISNT reversible it can be diagnosed with an X-ray, and will give you a clearer picture of the dogs overall possibilities/quality etc.

2-If the rear, IS it a luxating Patella, or is it an injury or disease? Have you looked at the animal from the rear to see the leg structure from the hips to the pastern is straight? Is a pronounced bowing of the legs visible? Misalignment? In/out pointing of paws? Are you sure it’s the knees and not hips?

I ask because I had to look hard to find a Vet who was knowledgeable on toy breeds and genetics and that had the experience to work with them.

Are the siblings/parents displaying this also? Did the breeder offer ANY insight? Have you recontacted the breeder to ask questions?

If this IS genetic, is it selective (every other or later litter) in reoccurrence? Are you sure its not a recessive trait easily breed out?

I have to admit, as much as I love my Yorkies, I have only ever heard of one truly perfect animal – that one is described in the AKC standard. I still want to see him some day!

SJ

mojo5569 · 05-11-2005, 04:09 PM

it is a luxating patella and yes the vet says it is inherited and it will be passed to his pups. there are plenty of pups out there that have no problems health wise... thats the pup i want to breed... i could not sell a pup knowing that its father could have passed down a hereditary problem. that is like a handycap and who wants to pay for a pup that will have problems all its life. i wouldnt want to and im upset that i did. i have a female who is as close to perfect as you can get... she is healthy no hereditary problems and i want a male as good as her...

CC's · 05-11-2005, 07:05 PM

Are you going to be at the canton show comming up?

mojo5569 · 05-12-2005, 04:43 AM

i probably am. are you?

CC's · 05-14-2005, 09:54 AM

I am hoping to make it.

It should be a good place for you to talk to breeders about a male, or get contacts to ask later. Sometimes they don't talk much at the show.

mojo5569 · 05-14-2005, 12:23 PM

im not so sure i trust breeders at shows... i bought my male from a lady who shows her dogs and she obviously sells her junk and keeps the good dogs... i just lost a lot of trust for breeders after being burnt. im still going to try to go... just to check it out though.

Olivier · 05-14-2005, 03:27 PM

I have wait 3 years before I could buy Kellie from a breeder that I was showing dogs for . Kellie is superb .

mojo5569 · 05-14-2005, 03:37 PM

maybe some of the breeders at show are ok but ive heard otherwise, and from my own experience i wont get one from a show breeder.

Olivier · 05-14-2005, 04:34 PM

You made your mind , its ok .

CC's · 05-14-2005, 04:52 PM

Maybe what you should look for is stud service from a dog that looks like what you want and is old enough to have health clearances and such. You can never be sure a pup will develop into stud material.

I hope you get things worked out with your breeder and your pup gets fixed up soon.

I wish you luck.

Olivier · 05-14-2005, 04:59 PM

For myself , I never owned a male , I don't even know if I will ,always look for the best male available . Ok , I have to pay for a stud fee every times but I never have had troubles with this fact .

05-10-2005, 03:11 PM	#1
mojo5569 Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: ohio Posts: 161	looking for a 3-4lb male in ohio i am looking for a 3-4lb male in ohio.... i am looking for a very high quality pup that would come with a genetic health guarentee. i spent good money on the male i have and just found out he has bad knees.... i WILL NOT breed a dog unless they are perfect and he was untill our last visit to the vet. i have become so attached that i cant get rid of him so im going to neuter him and be extra causious on my next purchase..... im willing to go to the surrounding states but i do want to pick up my pup rather than putting him on a plane.... please anyone who knows anyone or anyone who has an outstanding male under 4lbs please contact me, i appreciate it.

05-11-2005, 03:38 AM	#4
dianesyorkies Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Hephzibah, GA Posts: 14	just a few thoughts HI, DID the vet get specific? Is it the front or rear joints? Persistent or intermittent symptoms? As a side note, I have found: 1-If your male is very small (and it’s the front) are you sure it’s not nutritional Ricketts? While this ISNT reversible it can be diagnosed with an X-ray, and will give you a clearer picture of the dogs overall possibilities/quality etc. 2-If the rear, IS it a luxating Patella, or is it an injury or disease? Have you looked at the animal from the rear to see the leg structure from the hips to the pastern is straight? Is a pronounced bowing of the legs visible? Misalignment? In/out pointing of paws? Are you sure it’s the knees and not hips? I ask because I had to look hard to find a Vet who was knowledgeable on toy breeds and genetics and that had the experience to work with them. Are the siblings/parents displaying this also? Did the breeder offer ANY insight? Have you recontacted the breeder to ask questions? If this IS genetic, is it selective (every other or later litter) in reoccurrence? Are you sure its not a recessive trait easily breed out? I have to admit, as much as I love my Yorkies, I have only ever heard of one truly perfect animal – that one is described in the AKC standard. I still want to see him some day! SJ

05-11-2005, 12:30 AM	#2
Olivier Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 2,999	Did the vet told you what he have ? It is very hard to have a perfect dog .

05-11-2005, 01:06 AM	#3
Diego Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 3,617	Does your vet told you it was genetic ? Without offending you , what is a perfect Yorkie male is for you ?

05-11-2005, 04:09 PM	#5
mojo5569 Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: ohio Posts: 161	it is a luxating patella and yes the vet says it is inherited and it will be passed to his pups. there are plenty of pups out there that have no problems health wise... thats the pup i want to breed... i could not sell a pup knowing that its father could have passed down a hereditary problem. that is like a handycap and who wants to pay for a pup that will have problems all its life. i wouldnt want to and im upset that i did. i have a female who is as close to perfect as you can get... she is healthy no hereditary problems and i want a male as good as her...

05-11-2005, 07:05 PM	#6
CC's YT Addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 402	Are you going to be at the canton show comming up?

05-12-2005, 04:43 AM	#7
mojo5569 Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: ohio Posts: 161	i probably am. are you?

05-14-2005, 09:54 AM	#8
CC's YT Addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 402	I am hoping to make it. It should be a good place for you to talk to breeders about a male, or get contacts to ask later. Sometimes they don't talk much at the show.

05-14-2005, 12:23 PM	#9
mojo5569 Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: ohio Posts: 161	im not so sure i trust breeders at shows... i bought my male from a lady who shows her dogs and she obviously sells her junk and keeps the good dogs... i just lost a lot of trust for breeders after being burnt. im still going to try to go... just to check it out though.

05-14-2005, 03:27 PM	#10
Olivier Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 2,999	I have wait 3 years before I could buy Kellie from a breeder that I was showing dogs for . Kellie is superb .

05-14-2005, 03:37 PM	#11
mojo5569 Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: ohio Posts: 161	maybe some of the breeders at show are ok but ive heard otherwise, and from my own experience i wont get one from a show breeder.

05-14-2005, 04:34 PM	#12
Olivier Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 2,999	You made your mind , its ok .

05-14-2005, 04:52 PM	#13
CC's YT Addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 402	Maybe what you should look for is stud service from a dog that looks like what you want and is old enough to have health clearances and such. You can never be sure a pup will develop into stud material. I hope you get things worked out with your breeder and your pup gets fixed up soon. I wish you luck.

05-14-2005, 04:59 PM	#14
Olivier Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 2,999	For myself , I never owned a male , I don't even know if I will ,always look for the best male available . Ok , I have to pay for a stud fee every times but I never have had troubles with this fact .