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Old 07-17-2006, 05:33 AM   #16
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hello. the 5 month old male how big do you think his adult weight will be? also is that a pic of him in your first pics? also have the 6 month old female and the 5 month old male had the bile acid tests done also?
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The 5 month old male, Dragon should get no more than 4.5 lbs, he is very boxy and has a pretty head and nice coat. They have already been bile acid tested, and numbers are great. I bile acid all of my dogs starting around 10-12 weeks. No he isn't in one of the pictures, but I can try to get one for you if you are interested.
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yes i would love to see pictures of him and the 6month old female.
how is he around other animals or children?
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The 5 month old male, Dragon should get no more than 4.5 lbs, he is very boxy and has a pretty head and nice coat. They have already been bile acid tested, and numbers are great. I bile acid all of my dogs starting around 10-12 weeks. No he isn't in one of the pictures, but I can try to get one for you if you are interested.
How do you do bile acid test at 10 to 12 weeks as a 12 hour fast is required? I would be terrified of hypoglycemia to not feed or water a pup that young and small for that long.
My Vet recommended 6 months or more of age. You get more true results except perhaps in severe liver problems as I understand it, because the liver has more time to have to work on its own 6 or 7 months after being born rather than a short period of time.
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The first test I do is a urine bile acid test at betwen 10-12 weeks. If that comes back okay, then we don't re-test. If it is questionable, then I retest with a blood serum bile acid test at least a month later. Our fasting is for 10 hours, and I have never had one get hypoglycemic. They are allowed to have water. They are into the vet the minute they wake up in the morning, and are fed right after their blood draw. I am right outside of Knoxville, TN and my veterinarian is good friends with Dr. Karen Tobias, and stays current on bile acid testing and any new breakthroughs in the disease or testing protocals. She and He agree that this is a good method of testing puppies. If you wait until 6 or 7 months to bile acid test puppies, they may already be suffering the effects of PSS or MVD. That is not a risk I am willing to take, or pass on to anyone else. All of my adults who are the parents of these puppies are also tested and clear.

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What is the description and price of the first Yorkie pictured?
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That is Bradley, he is a 6 year old 6 lb male, he is housebroken, loves kids and other dogs, and is a sweetheart. for any other info, including pedigree email me privately.

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Old 07-17-2006, 02:25 PM   #23
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The 6 month old female is Figgy she is on the first page (3 pics of her) I will work on getting pictures of Dragon for you. Both are used to children, and other dogs. I have a grand daughter that is 9 that spoiles them rotten. Dragon and Figgy have a similar look, they are half brother and sister, though the mothers are unrelated.

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The first test I do is a urine bile acid test at betwen 10-12 weeks. If that comes back okay, then we don't re-test. If it is questionable, then I retest with a blood serum bile acid test at least a month later. Our fasting is for 10 hours, and I have never had one get hypoglycemic. They are allowed to have water. They are into the vet the minute they wake up in the morning, and are fed right after their blood draw. I am right outside of Knoxville, TN and my veterinarian is good friends with Dr. Karen Tobias, and stays current on bile acid testing and any new breakthroughs in the disease or testing protocals. She and He agree that this is a good method of testing puppies. If you wait until 6 or 7 months to bile acid test puppies, they may already be suffering the effects of PSS or MVD. That is not a risk I am willing to take, or pass on to anyone else. All of my adults who are the parents of these puppies are also tested and clear.

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Interesting I'll have to ask my Vet about it.
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I have been trying to reach you by phone snce we pm'd each other. Just sent you an email. I hope it goes thru.
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I wanted to say thank you to all of you who have been so wonderful. I have really enjoyed talking to so many of you, and thank those of you who are getting a dog or pup for being such great homes for my kids.

Update on who is currently sold: Figgy, Traveling Man (brown puppy), Frankie, Blue and Kandy.

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Dragon 5 month old boy
Trace 6 month old boy (bought as show prospect) Eden Valley lines
Joy 2 year old girl
Baby 2 year old girl (soft coated/dark gold) 4 lbs
Princess 4 month old Tiny girl
Happy 1 yr. old 6 lb soft male
Bradley 6 yr. old 6 lb silk male
4 8 week old pups from Frankie/Happy, will all be dark coated, beautiful heads, all will be less than 4 lbs. 3 boys 1 girl. (can't go to new homes for at least a month)
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Dragon 5 month old boy
Trace 6 month old boy (bought as show prospect) Eden Valley lines
4 8 week old pups from Frankie/Happy, 3 boys
I am thinking of a boy in the next couple of months, maybe sooner, and wanted to find out more about Dragon, Trace and the 8wk old ones (weight, clubs, pictures?). Thank you.
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I'm interested in the urine bile acid test... NO vets in my area know nothing about it and have never heard of it.
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I'm interested in the urine bile acid test... NO vets in my area know nothing about it and have never heard of it.
any info would be appreciated.
Here is a site that talks about it...

http://www.canine-epilepsy-guardian-...id_testing.htm

I find it amazing that even in my small town, some vets do procedures that other vets have never heard of.
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Prissy I'll get you official information on the Urine BA here is what I can tell you myself - There is no fasting, it can be done anytime of the day, a fresh urine catch is required, it is sent off to a lab (here it goes to Univeristy of TN) and has a much smaller range of good/bad. The Urine BA doesn't tell you as indefinately if there is a shunt, it tells you no shunt, or you have a problem, either MVD or shunt, which you have to retest with a fasting blood serum test. You don't HAVE to wait, since blood isn't drawn, you can re-test immediately. I'll see what other information I can get together for you.
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