Midkansas New AKC Yorkie Pups W/ Pictures

[yorkiegirl2]

Originally Posted by Nazir's

Actually, as I stated in my previous post, my intentions were not to stirr up anything. Which is why I've decided to drop it.

You refered to me as a breeder of miniature pinschers and that is not what I'd consider myself as at this point, as I've not ever bred a litter. When I do so, I dont believe that I'd take offense to the questions that I asked, if they were to be asked to me because I would be able to answer them easily without concern.

Am I looking for a yorkie? This is the question that you asked me but I don't see what a difference it would actually make in eradicating a problem before it were to start. This is what I'm assuming you were attempting to do. But, to answer your question, I've been looking for a yorkie for some time now and I feel that the questions that I asked were appropriate questions to be asked when evaluating a breeder. Just as I'm sure that the breeder would have questions for me as well.

Again, I apologize if I offended anyone with my questions. I know that it probably would have be taken totally differently if it were to be done in private but the post was put out here for the general public and board to see, I only replied.

I'm confused ..on your website you state you are a kennel and have dogs avalible... but you have not bred yet?
Are you a broker for someone or just bought dogs you no longer want ?
https://www.nazirskennel.com/Available.html

[megan_kat22]

it does say you breed nazir. i'm lost. i think you should just pm her if you want to have a convo with her about her practices.

but sherry your babies are precious, good luck i'm sure they will find awesome homes.

[yorkiegirl2]

Originally Posted by megan_kat22

it does say you breed nazir. i'm lost. i think you should just pm her if you want to have a convo with her about her practices.

but sherry your babies are precious, good luck i'm sure they will find awesome homes.

LOL..No Megan they are not my babies ..they are JUSTUS (Kirt and Mary's) little furballs..
But, I hope to have some in July..

[megan_kat22]

oops!! I just looked at the last signature, thought that was the poster! I musta been in a hurry lol. whoops!

[Sugar's Mom]

Originally Posted by justus

I will politely say I am taking a slight offense. We have 3 Yorkies. We did want to breed them from the beginning. You are treading into an area I do not want to go. We went 400 miles for the females because we are picky. We drove 600 miles because we knew what male we wanted. To top it off, and to note: we possibbly have just sold the last female. in the last few minutes. I will update for sure. I see you are PRO-spade and neutering. I respect that, but I will leave it at that and not question you to your personal ideas on the subject. I respect your opinion and that is your right. Please respect ours....justus

i don't blame you for being offended. I was offended for you just reading it. Smacks loudly of the type of posts I recieved from two or three individuals when i first mentioned that I want to breed my dogs. Finally, I told the person the reason i want to breed is to pay my credit cards off. That ended that. BTW, you have beautiful babies and I am sure you will find great homes for them. your price is very reasonable and fair.

[yorkiegirl2]

Originally Posted by Sugar's Mom

i don't blame you for being offended. I was offended for you just reading it. Smacks loudly of the type of posts I recieved from two or three individuals when i first mentioned that I want to breed my dogs. Finally, I told the person the reason i want to breed is to pay my credit cards off. That ended that. BTW, you have beautiful babies and I am sure you will find great homes for them. your price is very reasonable and fair.

LOL..that's too funny..Paying off my credit card..
I bet that shut them up...

[Nazir's]

Originally Posted by yorkiegirl2

I'm confused ..on your website you state you are a kennel and have dogs avalible... but you have not bred yet?
Are you a broker for someone or just bought dogs you no longer want ?
https://www.nazirskennel.com/Available.html

Don’t be confused, as I am here to address your concerns if you would truly like to know. The fact that on my website it’s stated that I "may" have puppies available to approved homes and that I welcome serious inquires doesn't say that I have ever breed a litter. Possibly, one day I will but currently my dogs are either just finishing being show (my boy finished 2/10/06), are being shown (1 girl out who only lacks one major), or will be shown (2 show prospects). With that being said--Yes, one day I do plan on having a litter to enrich and preserve the qualities within my breed but no, I've not ever bred one.

I have dogs that were co-owned by me, have finished, and were then bred. One that was placed with me to show but didn't make the standards' height and as a result was unable to be shown . I’ve also done tons of rescue within my breed, so just because a dog is listed as available on my “available page” doesn’t say that I’m a breeder or have ever breed a litter. Nor am I or would I ever be a broker! My “home page” clearly states the purpose for my site.

The word kennel, means nothing more than a place where dogs are being housed, boarded, or bre. All of my dogs stay inside of my home with me and are inside of my room 90% of the time, when they are inside of the house. Even though, they have free run to their own room. The named fit for future reference and there's nothing more to it.

I will not again apologize any more in hopes of eradicating a problem because it's clear that a problem is exactly what some of you want.

This is ridiculous and has clearly been taken way far out. So, if you'd like to continue on with the mess, even after it has been addressed and dropped, then do so by yourself.

[megan_kat22]

I believe we are confused because your website says,

"I strive to preserve and enrich the breed as a whole and will only breed to produce superior quality dogs."

Sorry you are so upset...

And I promise you no one was trying to start trouble here, you just came off as a little strong.

[Nazir's]

Originally Posted by megan_kat22

I believe we are confused because your website says,

"I strive to preserve and enrich the breed as a whole and will only breed to produce superior quality dogs."

Sorry you are so upset...

And I promise you no one was trying to start trouble here, you just came off as a little strong.

Thank you and by no means does that statement imply that I have ever bred a dog. What it means to me is just as it's stated, "I strive to preserve and enrich the breed as a whole and will only breed to produce superior quality dogs."
Meaning, I would only breed if it were to be done to preserve the qualities of a breed and/or enrich the breed as a whole. By no means am I qualified enough to determine these things on my own. I do so by continuously educating myself about my breed, paying judges to honestly and non-biasly evaluate my breeding stock in comparison to the breeds standard and other quality dogs within the breed, and by doing the necessary testing to screen out the possibilities of any hereditary health issues.

The questions were not the problem on my behalf. What I found to be very inappropriate was the fact that someone took it upon themselves to display my personal information (my website) as a reference without my consent and because of this I will be contacting the admins and asking that this be corrected and/or removed.

As I stated before, this topic has went far off in left feld, which was due to some others that have chosen to instigate a situation that could have been left as resolved.

[SupPup]

While I agree that the questions would be questions I myself would ask of a breeder I did not previously know the history of (esp. if looking for a show quality puppy), if I got the answers I didnt want I would have left it at that and moved on in my search for a pup/breeder.

If I am going to be spending hundreds or thousands of dollars on a PET puppy I (PERSONALLY) would rather spend it on a pup that came from a litter intended for show, perhaps a pup that was sub-par so that I was supporting someone who was in it to further the breed itself. A lot of people feel this way and ask these questions to avoid buying a pup from hobby breeders who are breeding pet quality dogs (although personally I have no problems with pet quality breeders as long as the pups find good homes and the price is right for the quality of the dog!) Its hard to ask these difficult questions in a nonoffensive manner, however as I said before I would politely excuse myself from a breeder that didnt meet with my particular standards or leave the thread in this case.

As for the original poster, I dont mean to be antagonising by posting this, your pups are darling and Im glad that they are finding homes!!! Thank you for sharing them with us

[yorkiegirl2]

Originally Posted by Nazir's

Thank you and by no means does that statement imply that I have ever bred a dog. What it means to me is just as it's stated, "I strive to preserve and enrich the breed as a whole and will only breed to produce superior quality dogs."
Meaning, I would only breed if it were to be done to preserve the qualities of a breed and/or enrich the breed as a whole. By no means am I qualified enough to determine these things on my own. I do so by continuously educating myself about my breed, paying judges to honestly and non-biasly evaluate my breeding stock in comparison to the breeds standard and other quality dogs within the breed, and by doing the necessary testing to screen out the possibilities of any hereditary health issues.

The questions were not the problem on my behalf. What I found to be very inappropriate was the fact that someone took it upon themselves to display my personal information (my website) as a reference without my consent and because of this I will be contacting the admins and asking that this be corrected and/or removed.

As I stated before, this topic has went far off in left feld, which was due to some others that have chosen to instigate a situation that could have been left as resolved.

I'm sorry But your personal info is on the web for anyone looking.
I'm not sure why you are so upset about it.
Your website does lead anyone looking at it to believe you are the breeder of the dogs on your site.
Something you may want to correct on your site. So a buyer is not mislead.

[justus]

Originally Posted by SupPup

While I agree that the questions would be questions I myself would ask of a breeder I did not previously know the history of (esp. if looking for a show quality puppy), if I got the answers I didnt want I would have left it at that and moved on in my search for a pup/breeder.

If I am going to be spending hundreds or thousands of dollars on a PET puppy I (PERSONALLY) would rather spend it on a pup that came from a litter intended for show, perhaps a pup that was sub-par so that I was supporting someone who was in it to further the breed itself. A lot of people feel this way and ask these questions to avoid buying a pup from hobby breeders who are breeding pet quality dogs (although personally I have no problems with pet quality breeders as long as the pups find good homes and the price is right for the quality of the dog!) Its hard to ask these difficult questions in a nonoffensive manner, however as I said before I would politely excuse myself from a breeder that didnt meet with my particular standards or leave the thread in this case.

As for the original poster, I dont mean to be antagonising by posting this, your pups are darling and Im glad that they are finding homes!!! Thank you for sharing them with us

You are right. We don't advertise ours as show yorkies. We advertise them as AKC (American Kennel Club) which we do prefer,and believe to be the top registry in the USA. They are said to have to tightest regulations. We so far have had 6 litters, 2 litters at a time, and so far born 3-5 days apart each time. We don't advertise them as "show dogs" But I will say if a person wants to pay thousands of dollars or 15.000, and it makes them feel better, to do what they feel is right for them. Out of the litters we have had, only 2 of them so far were not given homes from people either here now or in the past on Yorkietalk. One was given to a very good friend that has done Soo much for us. The other found a good home by word of mouth. There are show relatives if you want to dig back in Pedegree's on both sides. Probably in MANY lines.
I WILL and do advertise them like this> AKC parents. AKC applications come with new puppies if that is of interest. It would also be different if someone was seeking a puppy, not just out to ask my personal reasons for raising them and why I don't have them fixed. There is where I draw the line of PERSONAL. Also I advertise them as I do MIDKANSAS AKC NEW YORKIE PUPPIES, and so forth. You are right> If a person is interested in the puppy's to buy is one thing. To harrass is another. These puppies we raise are AKC standard size, (4-7 pounds) and the father also has been DNA'd per AKC regulations. I do not advertise as Teacup even though we have had some that were really close full grown but under 4 pounds. We do not mislead potential new owners. We have no need to. If I did I would expect to be banned from this site. There are many people on here now and from the past that own one of our pet's offspring. If we were misleading, I would expect bad things written about us by people that DO really know us. Not to be under interigation from people that don't know us. We do expect the new owner to have their new puppies checked by their vet. within 3-5 days of picking them up. We have gotten so much praise from Vets in several different states about our puppies. Well that makes us feel good and the new owners also. We also have a letter from one Vet asking if we would like for them to give referrals for our Yorkie puppies. Also if we would be interested in referrals to us for our stud for stud service, which we will not do. That would be for a tri state area including Kansas where we are. Excuse the pun, but we don't dog people and believe in letting people make their own decisions. If asked for references we are happy to give them. All I can say is Yorkietalk is a wonderful place to us. We have learned so much here. The person we would call our mentor we met on here. Also another back up for us is the people we got our only 2 pet females from has raised Yorkie's for about 15 years. Not a day goes by we don't learn something new, and have the people we call our mentors to fall back on at any time. Under our posted ad is our phone number and email. I like to get to know people interested in our puppies and welcome all phone calls of people interested. We like to know a bit about people if they are really interested in our puppies, and get a much better fell of what they are looking for. Our puppies aren't sub-par, but if looking for a show dog guarantee, and paying thousands of dollars, and you have the expertise to show a dog or the money to hire a trainer. I would think a good place to look would be at an AKC dog show. I have pictures of past puppies, but really don't feel right about showing them on here without the owner of now's permission. So many people like the new fresh born baby pictures, but personally I like the pictures starting about 5-6 weeks the best. I will update photo's from time to time of non-reserved puppies. Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us all we appreciate it!!. ...justus...Kirk and Mary
PS: We do apologize for 1 thing. That we do not recognize many names on here anymore. There are many new folks and some have gone. We have been told that puppy mills are a real upset to many at this time, and this is not a new thing. That is always upsetting. It was in the past as it is now and will be in the future. United we stand !! You know the rest. Kirk and Mary **==

[Saleswman]

Originally Posted by Nazir's

Thank you and by no means does that statement imply that I have ever bred a dog. What it means to me is just as it's stated, "I strive to preserve and enrich the breed as a whole and will only breed to produce superior quality dogs."
Meaning, I would only breed if it were to be done to preserve the qualities of a breed and/or enrich the breed as a whole. By no means am I qualified enough to determine these things on my own. I do so by continuously educating myself about my breed, paying judges to honestly and non-biasly evaluate my breeding stock in comparison to the breeds standard and other quality dogs within the breed, and by doing the necessary testing to screen out the possibilities of any hereditary health issues.

The questions were not the problem on my behalf. What I found to be very inappropriate was the fact that someone took it upon themselves to display my personal information (my website) as a reference without my consent and because of this I will be contacting the admins and asking that this be corrected and/or removed.

As I stated before, this topic has went far off in left feld, which was due to some others that have chosen to instigate a situation that could have been left as resolved.

Your questions were alright by me......I took no offense.....but, then again....
just because a YT member is new...does not mean that we have not read everything possible, attended every show possible and driven anyone and everyone crazy asking questions....if fact, I am confident that the knowledge I have gained would stand strong against most others,....

ok, well.....maybe not most.....but surely many......

I believe that the questions asked were appropriate....

[SupPup]

In reply, Justus, I never meant to imply anybody's pups were sub-par in a negative way, or insult anybody at all... hmmm, how can I reword that. I meant that in a litter of show pups there are bound to be pups not meant for the show ring, and I would personally rather spend a lot of money on these pups (and I personally think even 900 bucks is a LOT of money) to support those who breed for show and give a not-show-quality puppy a good home. It doesnt mean I think pet-bred or pet-quality pups are disgraceful or poor in any way and I didnt mean to insult anybody AT ALL, just state my opinion and why I think these questions are neccessary in some cases if you really want to get down and dirty and insist on the nitty-gritty. And MANY breeders come prepared with answers for these questions, or at least in other breeds as I personally dont have hardly any experience with Yorkies as a breed... yet I also tend to ask questions like these with our horses and people interested in purchasing our show horses. Its tedious, and I appreciate tedious breeders with ready answers. The best part about all of this, is that if we dont like the answers we get, we are free to walk away (NOT harass... pointless!) and the right person will come along for both the breeder and the buyer. In the end everything works out and there is no need to push a matter if we dont agree with it or feel uncomfortable with the questions or answers we recieve. That, ultimately, was meant to be my point. Sorry that I am so long winded! LOL

I said before and will say again that I think your pups are lovely. I also have no problem with hobby or pet breeders, but I already talked about that. I meant no harm and didnt mean to offend anybody, just speak in earnest of my own opinions. Much peace to you and yours.

[TeddyBear]

These are Starsky's mommy and Daddy!!! Starsky is glad to hear he has some new brothers and a sister!!!! Congrats to you guys!!!