Any experts out there ? Need help on buying a Micro Tcup!

[tinybaby]

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Hello, I need a expert to recommend a breeder on healthy Tiny Yorkie --with a baby doll face -colby body-silky hair..
To wgt when full grown 2 1/2 to 3 lbs max.

Any experts out there--I have picked out a very cute --very small female --she is 4 mos. she weighed 1 lb 11 oz. ---Her price is 3,000.00 plus shipping is that really high for one of these tiny babies?

Thanks--

[tfc3rid]

Yes. That's a lot.

[Chelsie1978]

Theres not such thing as a micro t-cup and finding one of these tiny yorkies isnt as easy as it seems.Firstly,you have to find a responsable breeder that DOESNT BREED TINIES to prouduce tinies because this is cruel and these breeders dont care about breeding their 2lb females and risking their lifes,they just want the money that the tiny pup will get them.I would find a responsable reputable breeder that breeds healthy,good sized females and chose the smallest pup of the litter,it may not weigh 2lb´s full grown,but you have more chances of it being healthy if its mother was the right size for breeding..and it wont cost you $3000 which is my eyes is OUTRAGEOUS!.This is what I mean when I say that some breeders perposly try to breed tiny yorkies to later charge these rediculous prices.Can I ask why you want such a tiny yorkie? I have a 16 month old 2lb yorkie and to be honest its not all fun and games..theres alot more to it that people thinking its cute because its tiny They are extremely fragile,most never grow out of hypoglycemia due to their tiny size and they are NOT GOOD to have a round small kids.On the other hand my 9lb yorkie is so much easier to look after.We dont have to watch her like a hawk around my kids and she is no where near fragile..she can hold her own VERY well
I would honestly think about getting a tiny yorkie,especially if its going to cost you $3000...no breeder can garantee a 2lb yorkie and if this breeder is promising you a "micro t-cup" then that its self is a big red flag.I know that the smaller they are,the more expensive they are..but charging $3000 seems like a warning sign to me.When a breeder uses the term t-cup,baby faced..etc,its better to look else where because they are selling you something that doesnt exist All these terms are to be able to charge these sort of prices and get away with it.

[mybirdys2003]

That is AWFUL! Like above, find a breeder and get the smallest pup in the liter. That is what I did, and I paid $800. for her. She was 1#9oz. at 4 months. She is weighing around 3# now. Do not pay that much for a pup! I repeat-----DON"T Pay That Much! You are being ripped off! I personally would not buy a pup unless I could see the place he is coming from and see how clean, etc, it is and what the breeder is like. Also, you should pick out your own pup. When you go to a breeder's, it just seems there is always one that seems to pick you! There have been some awful stories on here about buying on the net, and never getting the puppy and just getting the run around. It is very hard to recoup your losses in these cases. Search on this forum, and you will find stories that will make your hair stand on end!
Good Luck! Pat

[chachi]

I wanted a super tiny yorkie also. While I was waiting for mine she died of obvious underling health problems. The girl I did purchase is still small but she should at least be 3 or 4 pounds. Please,please don't purchase from someone who breeds for super tinys. These pups have to have health problems being breed for tininess. Look for the smallest of the litter. While they can still have health problems it seems like it would not be as likely as when they are breed constantly to be tiny. I think you should also know my first dog, Chachi who will probably be 6lbs or more is much more sturdier. I have to worry about him alot less than I do my smaller one.

[PinkMartini]

Originally Posted by Chelsie1978

Theres not such thing as a micro t-cup and finding one of these tiny yorkies isnt as easy as it seems.Firstly,you have to find a responsable breeder that DOESNT BREED TINIES to prouduce tinies because this is cruel and these breeders dont care about breeding their 2lb females and risking their lifes,they just want the money that the tiny pup will get them.I would find a responsable reputable breeder that breeds healthy,good sized females and chose the smallest pup of the litter,it may not weigh 2lb´s full grown,but you have more chances of it being healthy if its mother was the right size for breeding..and it wont cost you $3000 which is my eyes is OUTRAGEOUS!.This is what I mean when I say that some breeders perposly try to breed tiny yorkies to later charge these rediculous prices.Can I ask why you want such a tiny yorkie? I have a 16 month old 2lb yorkie and to be honest its not all fun and games..theres alot more to it that people thinking its cute because its tiny They are extremely fragile,most never grow out of hypoglycemia due to their tiny size and they are NOT GOOD to have a round small kids.On the other hand my 9lb yorkie is so much easier to look after.We dont have to watch her like a hawk around my kids and she is no where near fragile..she can hold her own VERY well
I would honestly think about getting a tiny yorkie,especially if its going to cost you $3000...no breeder can garantee a 2lb yorkie and if this breeder is promising you a "micro t-cup" then that its self is a big red flag.I know that the smaller they are,the more expensive they are..but charging $3000 seems like a warning sign to me.When a breeder uses the term t-cup,baby faced..etc,its better to look else where because they are selling you something that doesnt exist All these terms are to be able to charge these sort of prices and get away with it.

I couldn't agree more

[tinybaby]

I really like this baby she is so darn cute! The breeder seems to be very nice & helpful with my questions I ask her


They say that at 12 weeks you times it times two. She is well past 12 weeks. I estimate her to only be around 2.5 pounds. A lot of people say that at 4 months they are full grown. I have read 16 weeks. So that would mean she would be full grown at 1 lb 11 oz. I really feel that at 6 months they are full grown. They seem to stay the same size at 5 months and then gain adult features and fill out after that to me.

I will add this to your contract if you would like. I talked to my vet about this not to long ago. He said it is common with these tinies and doesn't mean the puppy will be affected by it. Hydrocephalus is what people are concerned with large open fontanels. This puppy is almost 4 months old so I would think she would show some signs of a problem if there would be one. I feel very safe in selling her. I have sold other puppies with the same size of soft spot (molera) and they have never had a problem. It usually closes. I will add this to your contract so there will not be any question on her.

This is part of the e-mail from the breeder...

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Our Puppies are raised by breeders who strive to raise happy healthy puppies for you and your family. All puppies are up to date shots and wormings. All of our puppies are Vet checked before leaving and have health records. We also provide a one year guarantee against genetic diseases!

I checked her out on the AKC page --she is not been removed --which is a good thing

[SoCalyorkiLvr]

I would talk to the breeder's vet who has examined this dog and ask if he would recommed this breeder to his family and friends. Open fontanels are common in a tiny, but the general rule is that they are not done growing until their adult teeth are all in.

Are you going to pick up the puppy yourself or have her shipped? It is best to pick up but not horrible to ship since she is already 4 months. If you will not see the kennel and the parents of the puppy in person at least ask for pictures and their weights.

The price she is asking is not uncommon. I am sure you could find one cheaper but these tinies are expensive as little puppies and need around the clock care 24/7. They also need to stay longer before going to their forever home which means more expense for the breeder.

I would ask all the questions and then trust your gut instinct. It's usually a pretty good indication. It sounds like you have already fallen in love with this little one and the fact that you can spend that much for her up front hopefully also means that you can provide for all of the care and expense that you will incur over her lifetime. I know some breeders who charge more for tinies for this reason.

Did she ask detailed questions about your home life and the conditions you will provide for the puppy? A good breeder will ask more questions of you than you do of her and should refuse to sell the puppy to the wrong environment no matter how much money she's offered. A puppy that little needs to be cared for and supervised 24/7 and should be in a home with no small children or aggressive animals.

[Midge5353]

I am not a Yorkie breeder and I am not an expert, but in my opinion I would steer clear of "tiny yorkies" I have read on the internet in many places that teacups have many health problems because of their size, etc. and I even read that teacups dont exist. People say they are just the runts of the litter which are bred to make even smaller Yorkies. I dont know what to tell you but when I get another Yorkie for my family, I plan to visit the breeders house, meet them and the parents, meet the puppy before I pay for it, and have a health guarantee, etc. Buying a puppy is a major thing and if you dont know what to look out for or what to be weary of, than it can be very difficult.

I found some websites with information on "teacups" I don't know how reliable the sources are but they seem true.
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Quote copied and pasted from: http://www.yourpurebredpuppy.com/rev...eterriers.html

"Avoiding the hype. Beware of breeders selling "teacup" Yorkies. This is a made-up marketing term for Yorkshire Terriers weighing only 2 or 3 pounds. Stay away from any breeder who uses this term.

I do NOT recommend a Yorkshire Terrier under 4 pounds. These individuals are great risks in the health department. Their bones are extremely fragile. There is not enough room in their mouth for healthy teeth. Their internal organs are often weak and can fail suddenly. They tend to have great difficulty regulating their blood sugar and can go into hypoglycemic shocks and comas.

To make matters worse, some breeders deliberately breed these high-risk Yorkshire Terriers and charge outrageous prices. There are breeders on the Internet right now charging $1000, $1500, $2000 for "teacup Yorkshire Terriers." Don't be taken by these irresponsible people. Stick with Yorkies who will mature at 4 pounds and up. And don't pay such ridiculous prices for any Yorkshire Terrier. "
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Quote copied and pasted from: http://www.yorkiesdirect.com/teacupyorkies.htm

"Teacup " Yorkies

One of the most frequently asked questions that we get is "do you have any teacup Yorkies?". The simple truth is that neither we nor anyone else has a "teacup" Yorkshire terrier because no such classification exists. Let me clarify.

The official breed standard for the Yorkshire terrier calls for adult Yorkies to have a weight of no more than seven(7) pounds.

To be exact, the breed standard states: "Weight: Must not exceed seven pounds." This definition was approved on April 12, 1966. To review the breed standard for Yorkshire terriers, click here.


Why then, you may ask, do so many breeders advertise teacup Yorkies? There are only two reasons:

* Fraud.
Some unscrupulous breeders advertise teacup Yorkies to take advantage of those people who are not very familiar with Yorkies. By telling someone that they are getting a "teacup", they make the buyer feel that they are getting something special (as if one get much more special than a Yorkie at all:-)). Beware, many of these people also advertise "toy" and or "standard" Yorkies with weights up to 10 or 12 pounds. As stated above, a standard Yorkshire terrier must weigh no more than 7 pounds.

* Ignorance.
Sadly, there are people out there breeding Yorkshire terriers who simply aren't knowledgeable enough about Yorkies to know that there is no such thing as a "teacup". One can only image their general breed knowledge and the quality of their puppies.

I was told of a breeder recently who has Yorkies weighing less than two(!!) pounds all the time. The person writing wanted to know if we had puppies of that size. I must point out that as of last year, the smallest dog in the world, according to the Guinness Book of World Records, was a Chihuahua who weighed just under 2 pounds at 1 lb. 14 oz. For someone to claim that they regularly have adult dogs weighing less than 2 pounds is a stretch to say the least.

On average, Yorkshire terriers weigh between 5 and 7 pounds as adults. There are, of course, smaller Yorkies born that will weigh less. Most Yorkshire terriers that you see participating in the show ring tend to be 6 to 7 pounds. A dog weighing 3 to 4 pounds is considered very small and often requires special care. Dogs this small should not be handled by children expect under strictly controlled conditions. Children are clumsy by nature--not intentionally--and dogs weighing less than 4 pounds are fragile, with easily broken bones.
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I hope I helped!

[luvdorkyyorkies]

Can you post a pic of the baby?

[rrosenberry]

When I went to the vet with my 4 pound 8 wk old puppy... the vet sensed my ...." I wanted a small dog" , when he weighed him.
Anyhow, he went on and on for about 20 mins. about he would rather see a bigger Yorkie rather than a too small Yorkie, because of all the health issues, and the way people breed the runts to get the "perfect small dog" and disregard the health problems they inherit. Then pass them off as TOY or Teacup... which DO NOT exist! One breed standard for Yorkshire terriers 5-7 pounds.

[YorkieRose]

What does this sentence mean..."Our puppies are rasied by breeders who strive to raise happy healthy puppies for you and your family."
What does this breeder do..hire other breeders to come in her house and raise her Yorkies? Sounds like a broker.
Where is the web site?

[mybirdys2003]

I'm sorry, but it has not changed my mind! That is a hugh price for a puppy. I know he is cute, etc. But, what puppy is not cute? The breeder will absolutely be really, really nice to you. I'm not saying they are bad breeders, but a red flag is raised when they call them a Micro T.Cup! NO SUCH THING! You can find a good breeder and an adorable dog in your area! See your dog and the conditions before you buy! I can't stress this enough! I never realised that the tinies had such health issues. I just wanted a small dog to fit our life style. I did see the mother, (was about 10 #) and the father (about 5 #) She is little, but seems healthy and has fine teeth. You just need to get the smallest of the litter and you will probably have a small Yorkie.
Good luck and I hope everything comes out alright for you. At any rate let us know what you decide! Pat

[PlatinumYorkies]

After reading this, I did research....this is what I found......I decided to post the website, maybe someone can post this as a beware...they have a puppy(a few) for $5000



Yorkshire Terrier - Yorkie for sale


VERY, VERY TINY TEACUP FEMALE YORKIE


Description: Exquisite, Classy, Perfect Markings, BabyDoll Face, Great Conformation. A Rare Beauty of outstanding Quality. Purse Size. This puppy should be in the 3 to 3 1/2 lb range full grown. Take her everywhere with you. See more of our gorgeous, beautiful puppies on our website.


Price: $3,500.00 Nickname: "Roxy"
Gender: Female Size at Maturity: Small
Age: 12 weeks

http://www.yorkiebabies.com/pages/2/index.htm

[Chelsie1978]

That breeder is wrong..yorkies are NOT full grown at 16 weeks old,where on earth did she get this from??? Yorkies are as a rule full grown at 6 months old,but will still fill out and put on a little weight until a year old,some times over.ANY breeder who uses the terms "tea-cup,baby doll faced,teddy bear..etc" is simply looking for $$$$,because these "types" of yorkies DONT exist.A yorkie is a yorkie,you wont see anything more on their paper work.Also,a breeder who claims that his/her pups are ALL tinies is a BIG RED FLAG! These breeders perposly breed tinies by using tiny females,which proves that the health of their yorkies is of no interest to them at all.$3000 is ALOT of money,I have seen show quality yorkies for that price so $3000 for a yorkie which is way out of standard and will possibly have health problems is just rediculous.The breeder may be wonderful and helpful,but considering that she wants your $3000 her behaviour is totally normal.Im not saying that ALL tiny yorkies will be sick,and that all breeders who have a tiny yorkies are iresponsabe..but from what you are saying,I just dont feel that this breeder in particular is reputable or responsable.I would find a reputable breeder (on these sites you will find a few) and chose the smallest of the litter.At least you will know that the mother was a good healthy size,healthy and the pup wasnt bred to be a "micro t-cup".It wont cost you $3000 and I assure you that after an hour with your pup (what ever the size) you wont care how big it gets..you will be head over heels inlove Tiny is cute,but its also a huge responsabilty.If I could get my self a third yorkie,I would go for one of the bigger ones,in my experience they are just as cute but half the worry