Any experts out there ? Need help on buying a Micro Tcup!

[mybirdys2003]

YIKES! Another one!

[Chelsie1978]

Oh dear..another one!!
ANY BREEDER who uses the terms BABY DOLL FACED,T-CUP,SUPER TINY,TEDDY BEAR,PURSE SIZED is looking for $$$$$.Please DO NOT buy from these breeders! These terms are BIG RED FLAGS! If on top of all these fancy names,the prices are in the thoasands..LOOK ELSE WHERE.No breeder should be able to garantee tinies in EVERY LITTER,this is also a big warning sign.These breeders take advantage of those who lack information,they thrive on those who are looking for something cute to "take everywhere".A yorkie is a pet,its not supposed to be a fashion acesory to be worn like a broach.

[Chelsey]

Left right and centre i read about TCUP TCUP TCUP.... WHO in their right mind started this TCUP bs...... WHY do ppl wanna change the breed.... really this gets me in a big way!! how CRUEL is this?! if TCUP size is so important and so popular then why not start breeding long haired mice and put a bow in its hair... then they get a TCUP!

just be HAPPY if ur baby is HEALTHY!!!!!! and KEEP the breed to what its SUPPOSE to be!


Sorry if this came on hard, but ppl need to wake up... if every breeder starts messing with size, in years to come there will be no more yorkies for us to love!

[tinybaby]

[B]Oh my gosh ! This is one of the breeders I was thinking about buying from...

[Itspuppyluv]

Mandy, I couldn't agree more. It is frightening how popular getting a tiny yorkie is becoming. There are so many people out there that will do anything for money with no concern at all for the well-being of these animals. It is such a shame.

[feminvstr]

Anyone the represents their puppys full grown at 16 weeks is NUTS puppies usually reach full height and weight within their first 12 months even then they may add minor weight till 2 years old.

I know this comment might offend some in this forum. with that being said IMHO anyone breeding a female 4lb or under or over the 7lb breed standard isnt being true to this beautiful breed.

I wouldn't breed a female less than four pounds. There is no actual tea-cup yorkie acknowledged by the AKC. You simply have very small dogs...dogs that are fragile, prone to health problems and often nothing but a heartbreak waiting to happen. A yorkie should not be a frail nervous little dog and these little ones tend to be just that! So many prospective owners seek out these tiny, frail creatures without realizing the health disadvantages these dogs may have...it does not honor the breed at all. A 5-7 pound yorkie should be every reputable breeders goal. Again IMO.

jumping of soap box ...waiting for the rocks to be thrown!

A breeder I know has a tiny baby for adoption in Vancouver but she is not AKC she is UKC her reasoning for UKC is they will not register inbred litters without a literal green mark on each puppies registration. This way or "so they say" prevents or keeps to a minimum inbreeding or outcrossing.

This little girl is beautiful weighing now 17oz at 8 weeks old and seems to be in perfect health but you never know with these little babies. I disagree with anyone breeding this small but for what its worth shes asking $1,200.00 her thinking on the price is if they can afford the adoption price they could afford the proper health care if a problem does arrive.

[jesscruz]

you know i did my research for 6 months before even considering a breeder. i just can't beilieve what people would do for money. do your research first on breeders. aslo i was wondering why you want such a tiny yorkie?

[YorkieRose]

I would be very leery of a volume breeder...I never saw so many pups for sale on one web site.

[Rambo'smama]

Yes,I doagree. Do not buy a puppy that cost so much money. I have learned alot just being on this site. When i went to purchase mine. I Didn't know anything about yorkies. I just saw him in thewindow walked in and the breeder told me he was a "tea cup. At the time i didn't know that tea cups didn't exist. I paid 2,000 for mine. Don't get me wrong I love him to to pieces but i just wish i did my research before i purchased him. I paid so much more because i wanted a smaller dog. He now weighs 7 pounds. I guess the breeder saw me coming from a mile away . He knew I didn't know anything and basically took my money. When i called him back a a couple of months later and asked him why my puppy weighs almost 5 pounds (at the time) He told me that he couldn't predict how big the dog was gonna get and that maybe i had been feeding him too much but then i realized right there that he was full of it. He told me that he couldn't predict how big a dog was gonna get. So , please do your research even if it takes 6 months to do so like Jesscruz.

[mojo]

I also wanted to say I have been to that website many times, (didnt look at again today) but some of those dogs have very odd looking eyes and I dont know if they are completely inbred but they definately seem to have something wrong with them.
I wouldnt pay thousands for that.

[SoCalyorkiLvr]

There are some definite "red flags" on that website IMO. They have Tiny Tina on the "YORKIE PARENT" page and they refer to her as teacup. I might just give them a call and ask how big she is. There are a lot of puppies for one breeder too and not that many parents. Females should only be bred once a year is my understanding.

[StewiesMom]

This makes me sick. All of it. I have an adorable 4lb boy that I paid $475 for (+ vet bills for his ear infection and cough), but nevertheless it was still very inexpensive. Though he is closely watched, he gets stepped on occasionally. This could be deadly for such a small pup. Not to mention the fact that it is UNETHICAL to breed a small female and use the terms teacup, baby doll, blah blah blah.

What yorkie does not have a beautiful face? Please show me a picture of one.

[tarawood]

Originally Posted by feminvstr

A breeder I know has a tiny baby for adoption in Vancouver but she is not AKC she is UKC her reasoning for UKC is they will not register inbred litters without a literal green mark on each puppies registration. This way or "so they say" prevents or keeps to a minimum inbreeding or outcrossing.

According to the Frequently Asked Questions part on the AKC website, they do allow inbred pups to be registered and it doesn't say anything about a "green mark" on each puppies registration (not that I have any idea what a "green mark" means anyway). I pasted it below:

"Why do you allow inbreeding and line breeding?

The relationship between the Sire and Dam of the litter has no bearing on registration eligibility. Anyone who considers breeding their dog must consider temperament, health, and finding mates that complement each other. Breeding dogs that are closely related can fix certain characteristics, both desirable and undesirable. Therefore, we would expect that only very experienced breeders would consider inbreeding and line breeding. However, there is no rule that prohibits inbreeding and line breeding; this is left to the discretion of individual breeders.

Inbreeding - The mating of two closely related dogs of the same breed.

Line breeding - The practice of mating a dog to a member of an earlier generation of the dog's bloodline." - Taken from AKC Website

I thought one of the reasons to get an AKC pup was that they wouldn't have been inbred. When I checked the site, I came across the info above. So, does that mean you can get a registered inbred dog without knowing about it? Did everyone else know this but me?? Is this why I've read you need to see a copy of the Dog's Pedigree before you purchase? Just wondering.

[Milo]

If you look at some of these web sites and then check back a few months later, they're the same dogs!!!!!! Are these puppies able to stay 12 weeks old for months at a time? I wish I had that power to never age.. One thing I have learned is to never ever buy off the internet without a recommendation of some one close to you.

[feminvstr]

I said the bitch was NOT AKC and Dawns reason for NOT reg'ing AKC was because they allow inbreeding which in some case, done by a very knowledgable breeder is NOT a BAD THING!

the green registration comes from the UKC and is clearly maked INBRED

READ ON:
this is direct from UKC website...

Inbreeding.

All purebred domestic animals were developed using inbreeding and line breeding. Inbreeding dramatically reduces variability. If the sire and dam of a litter are brother and sister, for example, they are genetically very similar. If this brother and sister are genetically superior dogs, mating them increases the chance of producing genetically superior puppies. Unfortunately, while inbreeding concentrates the good genes, it also concentrates the bad. At our current level of technology, it is impossible to detect every hidden genetic defect in an outwardly superior animal. Theoretically, however, if a breeder inbreeds and ruthlessly culls his stock when problems arise, he can eventually breed superior dogs.

A slightly slower and less risky means of achieving this goal is by line breeding. This is the technique used by the vast majority of responsible breeders. It still, however, requires a wide general knowledge of dogs and extensive knowledge of a specific breed.

Outcrossing is used by a breeder who wants to make a correction or improvement in some aspect of his stock. For example, a breeder may have exceptional dogs in every respect but one. He looks for a stud dog who excels in that one aspect and who is unrelated to his dogs. From that mating, the breeder would select only the offspring with the desired trait and breed those back into the family line.

Inbreeding, line breeding and outcrossing are the three tools by which breeders constantly strive to improve their stock. It has always been U.K.C. policy to discourage inbreeding except by the most experienced of breeders. Like many tools, inbreeding can be dangerous in the hands of the inexperienced.

The following official U.K.C. policy and guidelines are provided to assist breeders in determining the course they wish to take in breeding their dogs. This information should be carefully read by all persons breeding or buying U.K.C. registered dogs.

A dog whose sire and dam are very closely related, e.g., father and daughter, mother and son, brother and sister, is considered to be "inbred." The word "INBRED" will appear on such a dog's green temporary registration certificate, on his U.K.C. registration records, and on each U.K.C. registration certificate issued for him thereafter.

The purpose of marking these records is to enable the buyers of inbred dogs to make informed choices about breeding them. United Kennel Club realizes that the average dog buyer may not be familiar with the science of genetics or know how to apply what he does know to his specific dog. The purchaser of an inbred dog is put on notice that, before breeding that dog, he must educate himself about the genetic history of his breed and his dog.

U.K.C. registered dogs are known for excellent working instincts, true breed type, good temperament, intelligence, and soundness. U.K.C. breeders take pride in the scarcity of congenital and hereditary defects in their dogs. To maintain this high standard, U.K.C. discourages casual breeding and particularly discourages inbreeding by anyone other than breed experts.