Pair of proven yorkies

[yorkietalkjilly]

There is no way that going against the current conventional wisdom from the world over that a less-than-5 lb.-bitch should NOT be bred is breeding "for the love of the breed". No way. There is also no way breeding two dogs UNDER the Yorkshire Terrier standard minimum to one another is breeding "for the love of the breed". If you doubt me, Google terms like "breeding a 4 lb. Yorkshire Terrier female" or "breeding a tiny Yorkie female" and read vet after vet and breeder after breeder advising against this practice in no uncertain terms. Why in the world anyone would risk their little less-than-4 lb. female "for the love of the breed" is far beyond my comprehension. It's not like the breed is in danger or your tiny pups are improving it if they don't even meet the minimum breed standard weight. Usually breeding toy dogs under the breed standard minimum size/weight is actually for other reasons, such as the smaller the dog, the higher the price.

I hope that small little female you are selling is spayed, no longer has to work for her existence with her life at risk to produce litters from that tiny body and can just be someone's beloved, treasured little princess one day very soon.

[lynzy420]

Originally Posted by Woogie Man

Not being judgmental, but to offer my opinion:

Yes, some tiny girls can free whelp, and some girls of size may have problems. That being said, you have to draw the line somewhere and, for Yorkies, a minimum weight of 5 pounds for a breeding dam is the general rule, along with other considerations.

Even though your girl free whelped for you using your stud, who is to say she will again with a different stud? For that matter, she could have problems whelping even with the same stud.

The bottom line is that you are offering (and pricing) an underweight 3 year old girl for breeding. The risks are higher in a small girl for pregnancy and whelping issues. At the least, it is more taxing on a smaller girl, which is itself a health concern. Anyone considering this girl must factor all that in.

My vet once recommended my breeding a 3 1/2 pound girl I had. No, thanks, but she was placed in a pet home. Just because a vet says it's okay doesn't make it a good idea.

You have very good looking dogs and I'm sure the little girl would make a great pet.

[lynzy420]

Originally Posted by archatdz

1. Your first and last name - Janessa Trudel

2. Your city, state: Manitoba, Canada

3. Your phone number: 204-866-4394

4. Your email address: babyyorkies09@gmail.com

5. Yorkie(s) For Sale: Proven Male (stud), Proven Female

6. Birthdate of Yorkie(s): Aug 1, 2009 (male); Dec 2, 2009 (Female)

7. Age of Yorkie(s): 3

8. Weight of Yorkie(s) parents: --

9. Current weight of Yorkie(s) for sale: 3.2 lbs (male); 3.9lbs (female)

10. Registration if any (AKC, etc): both: AKC; male: CKC (Canadian Kennel club)

11. Price: $2000 (male); $1600 (female) with full rights

12. When puppies will be ready to be taken home: --

13. Do you ship your Yorkies: Yes

14. Any additional information you want to add: Both proven, very nice quality, excellent temperaments. Only selling due to personal circumstances

Are you willing to sell them as pet only? What is the price for pet only, no papers?

[yorkietalkjilly]

Originally Posted by lynzy420

Are you willing to sell them as pet only? What is the price for pet only, no papers?

It sure would be the loving thing to do for dogs that have worked for her(got that from Yorkiemom1 in a post long ago), and a little female that deserves a break from a lifetime of bearing/whelping pups from that little, underweight body.

[Cerise]

Originally Posted by archatdz

Why do I breed dogs? For the same reason my family has done so for the last 30 years. Love for the breed, love for the sport of showing. I bred GSDs with my mom until she started taking ill 18 months ago, and she could no longer keep up. I had fallen in love with the yorkie breed from going to shows, and decided last year to work with yorkies since we only have two spayed/neutered shepherds left. I had aspired to show my own offspring, until my marriage went awry.

Any bitch can have whelping problems. A 10lb bitch, only catching with one baby, that grows abnormally large can have issues and require a c-section. A throwback from a line can cause larger babies. That is the unknown of breeding. And any breeder that says they have never had an issue hasn't been in it long enough, or is just simply lying.

I agree, this is a passionate group. But there is a line between passion, and scaring away new people from breeding and showing. Next time you hear people complaining about why clubs are going under, and about why there are fewer and fewer entries, and more BYBs, think about the attitudes many breeders have. Protecting your lines lines is one thing. But again, jumping down someone's throat without knowing the facts is uncalled for. I do have a thick skin from being in this hobby for decades, but if I was a newbie, this would not have ended well.

At this point, I no longer feel the need to explain myself to anyone. This is a for sale thread, I have two yorkies for sale, breeder/show (and yes, you can show a 3lb yorkie in canada) or pets. Anyone interested can message my privately.

Wow, I haven't been on YT for a while and I come back and see there are just as many "know it all piss poor breeders who think they have good breeding practices" on here trying to sell off problems, as there ever was.

We all have ill parents, personal illness, relationship issues, or some sad drama that happens in our life sooner or later. That is life! And may things get better.

But, your breeding practices are a result of knowing others with bad breeding practices that care more about SELLING a fancy puppy than insuring the health and quality of the Yorkshire Terrier breed. No excuses! The female was too little and the people that bought your puppies were clueless. Regardless of what she welped, poor baby. I see the cycle of bad breeders continues.