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Old 08-24-2010, 05:19 PM   #31
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I haven't read all of this, but just wanted to put in my 2 cents regarding looking into rescue. As a representative of YTNR, I would not even call for a phone interview if I knew the applicant was a teenage or college age person (yes, our applicatiion asks for a birthdate). I would have to talk with the parents, the people in charge of the bills. So unless the mother of the OP is willing to put her name on rescues' lists, I don't see the OP ever getting called back.

It also seems as though the mother is not so gung-ho about getting another dog, and during phone interviews and home visits, we would be able to read that out. Actually, I don't think they would even get to the point of a home visit.

I would say the only good way to get a morkie is through the shelters and pound. OP would not qualify to get one through rescue.

Or find someone who had an "oops" litter, but to me, that is not responsible either.
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Old 08-24-2010, 05:30 PM   #32
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I meant the only good way to get a morkie in this situation is through shleters or pound.
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Old 08-24-2010, 06:54 PM   #33
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Kyralayloni: Thank you for the tips! They are much appreciated. I loved hearing the stories about your babies! I bet they are bundles of joy LOL I'm the last person you have to worry about length with. I'm pretty long posted myself, so I'd be a hypocrite if I didn't enjoy long posts :P

Reese1: Thanks, I think that helps put it a bit more in perspective and makes it seem less personal, which is appreciated. I understand you guys have to inform people who are potentially passing through here for information as well. I know that's how I originally came here, so it is understandable. Your posts weren't extremely criticizing, but some of the others were and they felt more like a personal attack than an informative post is all. Thus, I felt the need to address it.

Tae1107: That just goes to show how much every dog is an individual! It is a mystery as to what I'll end up with, but I will love the little fuzzball no matter what! ^_^

JDS: I found most of the criticisms to be well worded and informative to those who may not have previously done any reading up on those sorts of things, so I didn't take offense to most posts. There were a few choice ones though by certain people, implying I wasn't prepared or ready for a pup. It just seemed like there were slights on my or my family's characters and how dedicated we would be in some posts. I felt the need to defend myself (so I did), but I made sure to thank everyone for their input. I'm not harboring any ill feelings against anyone since I don't know them personally, just as they don't know me! ^_^ I don't feel it is fair to make judgments about others via the internet.

I realize tone gets lost over the internet, as does clarity, but it is hard not to take some things certain ways sometimes. I expressed that I was feeling on the defensive and overall it seems like the community respects my feelings and didn't actually intend to upset me.

Thanks! I just felt like everyone was getting a negative image of me, an image I didn't think I projected when I was writing. I kind of felt like the bad guy, but I didn't understand since I was trying to do the right thing and came here seeking help with doing things the right way. I appreciate that you recognize my good intentions. I'm crossing my fingers for a rescue or shelter to come through for me

Ringo1: Thank you! I have done a lot of thinking and I'm trying to make sure I'm the best Morkie mama I can be! Thank you for sharing your pup stories. They really do come in handy as it lets me get a better idea of what kind of temperament my pup may possess. RIP Casper, you sound like you were a wonderful little dog. <3

WV~Yorkies:
Again, I reiterate that I know that my ideal isn't what I'm going to end up with. It is just fun to think about what my baby will be like. Even if she ends up nothing like that, I wouldn't be upset.

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Luckily, rescue pups tend to be at least 1, if not a few, years old. ^_^ I'm really hoping that they'll come through, but I wanted to explore my options in case one doesn't come along. Like I said, the process is proving difficult. I can't wait to add a new member to our family! I could use another HW buddy as I tend to pull late study nights with Suki already!

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I didn't know that being a college age person makes me too irresponsible for a pup in rescues' eyes. It seems kind of unfair to disqualify me just based on age and deny a pup a possible loving home, but it is good to know that they do that. I will have my mom reapply/call in at all the shelters/rescues I've contacted already... Gosh that's going to take awhile...but I do want a call back so I'll get right on it.

Thank you for the first part of your post as it was very informative, but...

"I haven't read all of this, but..."

You really should have, as I did go over more in depth on my mother's feelings about potty in the house and how no one really *likes* potty in the house, but it isn't like she would freak completely out. She knows what dogs are like (she's had several in the past including larger breeds (all mixed) and her baby Maltese) and she knows what she is in for. She actually asked me how to go about obtaining a new pup and explained to me what she wanted. She was originally thinking about another small mixed breed, but then we met the little Morkie that day and she fell in love like I did.

You also would have caught how I don't appreciate judgments on myself or my family when you don't even know us. Rest assured this is a *family* decision and we all want a pup. If we all weren't in agreement we wouldn't have moved forward with getting a dog. An environment where everyone isn't on board is no environment to bring a new furbaby into. Now, I don't feel it is fair to say what my mother does and does not want, when you don't even know her and haven't even heard from her in any medium at all. I've at least typed here, but I still think making judgments about if I'm qualified for a pup or not via the internet is not something people should be doing.

Therefore, I don't feel a pound is my only option because I'm sure my family would pass whatever tests rescues have with flying colors. We are loving, will have all the proper information (which I've spent many hours scouring sources to gather), and will take great care of our pup. Perhaps I won't be applying at YTNR though, since I apparently would be rejected. I'm sure another rescue would be happy to give a pup a good home.

A lot at the ones I've applied at (and haven't heard from), don't have any Morkies available right now at all, which is why I haven't heard from them. Others have a certain distance from the rescue requirement, which I'm not qualified for because sometimes I'm a 5 hour drive away (which I would gladly make, but I respect that they want an easy distance home visit). At others I jumped on the bandwagon of a dog too late. I was informed they were already pending adoption, which is also understandable because they seem to be quite popular and snapped up quickly. The waiting lists are long for a Morkie, or so I've been told by every shelter/rescue/pound I've contacted.

And since we're getting to the point where the thread is getting too long... I'd like for posters to read the entire thread if possible. Or, if they don't have the time, to at least read all *my* posts as this thread does pertain to me and respect my feelings on the matter of judgmental posts which has been gone over several times at this point. Thank you.

I'd also again like to thank you all for your feedback and being on the whole such a kind, passionate, and knowledgeable community! <3
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I didn't know that being a college age person makes me too irresponsible for a pup in rescues' eyes. It seems kind of unfair to disqualify me just based on age and deny a pup a possible loving home, but it is good to know that they do that. I will have my mom reapply/call in at all the shelters/rescues I've contacted already... Gosh that's going to take awhile...but I do want a call back so I'll get right on it.

Thank you for the first part of your post as it was very informative, but...

"I haven't read all of this, but..."

You really should have, as I did go over more in depth on my mother's feelings about potty in the house and how no one really *likes* potty in the house, but it isn't like she would freak completely out. She knows what dogs are like (she's had several in the past including larger breeds (all mixed) and her baby Maltese) and she knows what she is in for. She actually asked me how to go about obtaining a new pup and explained to me what she wanted. She was originally thinking about another small mixed breed, but then we met the little Morkie that day and she fell in love like I did.

You also would have caught how I don't appreciate judgments on myself or my family when you don't even know us. Rest assured this is a *family* decision and we all want a pup. If we all weren't in agreement we wouldn't have moved forward with getting a dog. An environment where everyone isn't on board is no environment to bring a new furbaby into. Now, I don't feel it is fair to say what my mother does and does not want, when you don't even know her and haven't even heard from her in any medium at all. I've at least typed here, but I still think making judgments about if I'm qualified for a pup or not via the internet is not something people should be doing.

Therefore, I don't feel a pound is my only option because I'm sure my family would pass whatever tests rescues have with flying colors. We are loving, will have all the proper information (which I've spent many hours scouring sources to gather), and will take great care of our pup. Perhaps I won't be applying at YTNR though, since I apparently would be rejected. I'm sure another rescue would be happy to give a pup a good home.

A lot at the ones I've applied at (and haven't heard from), don't have any Morkies available right now at all, which is why I haven't heard from them. Others have a certain distance from the rescue requirement, which I'm not qualified for because sometimes I'm a 5 hour drive away (which I would gladly make, but I respect that they want an easy distance home visit). At others I jumped on the bandwagon of a dog too late. I was informed they were already pending adoption, which is also understandable because they seem to be quite popular and snapped up quickly. The waiting lists are long for a Morkie, or so I've been told by every shelter/rescue/pound I've contacted.

And since we're getting to the point where the thread is getting too long... I'd like for posters to read the entire thread if possible. Or, if they don't have the time, to at least read all *my* posts as this thread does pertain to me and respect my feelings on the matter of judgmental posts which has been gone over several times at this point. Thank you.
Actually, I haven't read all of the other posters comments, but I have read YOURS. No where did I judge you, I just stated the facts. My state director would not even forward me an application if the person was too young, in her opinion and in mine.

Working with rescue, the goal is to place the dog in a family that will care for it till the end, no matter what. The last thing we want is the pup to be placed with the wrong home and see it returned back into rescue or worse abandoned or left at a shelter. Most of our dogs are special needs, often times seen as worthless to their former owners, sometimes abused, neglected etc, and for that reason we don't place them with just anyone. And when I say "wrong home" I mean the dog and the family is not the right match. I am not saying your home is a wrong environment for a dog.

If your mother wants to try to rescue, her name would be on the applications not yours.

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..but I still think making judgments about if I'm qualified for a pup or not via the internet is not something people should be doing.
Actually the first step in trying to adopt through rescue is to fill out an application online over the internet, and if it meets qualifications, then it is passed on to the next step. if it does not meet qualifications, then that is the end. One does not get notice that they did not meet qualifications.

I'm trying to help you out. I'm telling you how it is, how rescue works. The last thing I want is for another person to buy a morkie from a petshop or byb bc they couldn't get one through rescue (not you I'm just saying.) If you keep filling out apps in your name you are wasting your time. you need to have your mother fill them out. If you still think I'm judging you, then I'll stop giving you advice.
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capt_noonie: I'm sorry if I misinterpreted your tone, but I thought you said my mother didn't seem like she wanted a dog and thus, (for one reason or another) we would end up giving up on the dog during a problem. When I know we would never do such a thing and that my mum does really want a dog. She even told me she'd make the effort for a non-local dog and make special accommodations if someone needed to stay overnight in order to make a required home visit.

I also thought you said my only options for my situation would not include a rescue because we weren't qualified :/ I guess I was just upset that the rescue option was closed to me in an unfair manner and I wasn't just referring to the age thing. You said that we'd never make it to a home visit because my mother wouldn't pass a phone interview. I took it as offensive, when perhaps I shouldn't have because you didn't mean to attach that sort of feeling to it.

I did, however, acknowledge in my post that your advice on how the process works was useful (despite feeling like you were making assumptions about my mum). It was good advice when I didn't completely agree with you and it is still good advice now that it has been cleared up.

I am even taking that advice! I will be having my mum refill everything out and call everyone back up. I was just doing it to make her life a bit easier, since I have more time being off from school. Of course, that ends Monday. >_<

So, that thanking for advice was still directed at you at the end because you *did* have good points in there. I just got the tone of the rest of the message wrong at the time. I wouldn't have responded at all if I thought you didn't have valid input (as per one of my boundaries I set up for this thread for myself, which is not to get upset or respond to any nonconstructive comments). Your comment was constructive, so I responded to it.

I apologize and I hope you will continue to offer advice. Just perhaps watch what you generalize? I'm assuming (now) what you were going for was a general example, but it came off to me (at the time) like personal comments directed at me.
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