Tiny AKC Yorkie WA

[jeniece]

Aww ..he does look just like Romeo ..Thank you to every member for your feedback and those who offered support. I guess it is unfortunate that I am not a experienced as GEMY or the others. My babies parents are healthy, registered and high quality dogs. I do not feel the need to say any more. I was trying to find a good home for him. I have a good idea of what other "little" boys go for and I know that I am asking a fair price. I may not know about the "RIGHT" to breed, and granted one of the parents may have not "gone into the ring" or "been evaluated", but they both have been loving and caring pets in MY HOME, which is what is important to me. I am not about the "CH Titles" I AM about finding a good home for this little boy. I am not concerned with him being with someone who is SO concerned about showing and being a European Champion, he just needs a good home with a loving family, if they choose to show him that is up to them. AND YES! I will keep asking a fair price for him. I guess if he was a 3 times European champion I would be asking $3000.00. Finally I suppose that this final post will generate another post from gemy or those like her that have it in their mind that only they know what is best. While they may know everything or sound like they do.. I am simply a Yorkie owner who loves her dogs.
Thank You

[Disney]

Not saying you don't love dog, I just feel that if doggie going to need vet bill he shouldn't be so high price. NOT a fair price.

[topknot]

I think what people are suggesting in only that you wait awhile till your baby is min. 2 pounds before going to his new home to avoid any stress and any problems that could be passed on to the new owner... And to get the vet check up and testing done. This is ethical practice. Price is up to the breeder and if that is the price, that is the price.

A note on championship - people who show, do so to prove the quality of their dog. It is like taking them to the vets to be checked, you go to the shows to compete in confirmation to take it one step further. The breeder/owner is showing that they are doing everything they can do.

[AprilLove]

Awwwww!! Your little Romeo is a dollbaby I'm sure you will find the perfect forever home for him.

[cathys]

You do know that you can't show a pup that will probably only grow to be about 2LBS. This is not a show pup, it can only be placed as a pet. We are only trying to protect the pup and the new owner from unnecessary pain and expense. If you can't see that there is a real possibility of serious vet expenses with a pup of this size, than you are being short sighted. You have to keep a constant watch on these little ones, their blood sugar can drop so fast, just from so extra play time, a little bump of the head could kill them instantly. You already said that you do no show and our not a professional breeder, all that we are doing is giving you some good advice to help you protect this pup that you obviously care about. What will you do if you sell this pup to someone and it dies, within the first month. You do realize these people will want their money back as well as all the vet bills. All we're saying is that with these little ones it is better to place them in a safe loving home with someone that understands that this pup may have serious vet bills. It will definitely need 24/7 care, and will for sure cost a lot of money over its life time. If you do this, than you have done the responsible thing for all involved. No one feels you are not a caring person, we just know what can happen, and the pain it can cause for all involved, thats all. We always put the welfare of the pups first, its just our nature. We have a love for this breed that is unstoppable. We truly were just trying to protect both the pup and you, from future problems. I hope you give this so serious thought. It's not about the money, it's all about doing what is responsible, and best for all.

[WV~Yorkies]

Who determines Pet price? Is it wrote somewhere?

I think price should be left between seller and buyer.JMO

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by WV~Yorkies

Who determines Pet price? Is it wrote somewhere?

I think price should be left between seller and buyer.JMO

Of course it should, but the seller should be ethical in placing a wee one.....

[jeniece]

but the seller should be ethical in placing a wee one.....
That is why I AM HERE ...And if he wasn't healthy.. I would not sell him ...

[Rhetts_mama]

In a perfect world I would agree that "pet price" should be set between breeder and buyer and market conditions. But this isn't a perfect world. And buyers should be ticked to find out that they are paying Gucci prices for a Goochi knock off. To us buyers, we feel we are at the mercy of the breeders.

Most of us novice yorkie buyers walk in to this without all the knowledge we should really have. It's not an excuse for being ignorant, but unless you are a member of a forum like this you really don't know what you don't know until you are in over your head.

Unethical breeders have done a fantastic job of pushing the notion that these tiny guys are desirable and something to be coveted. They've marketed the term "teacup" and "pocket pups" and convinced us this is what a "true" yorkie should be. If BP had the same PR finesse, we'd be celebrating in the streets that they managed to cap the spill after "ONLY" 91 days! I've seen these little babies going for upwards of 3 Grand around here, and even higher on the internet. We (the general buying population) have no idea that these babies aren't eligible for showing or candidates for breeding or should be sold at a different price point than a pup who is an excellent representative of the breed. We don't know that buying these babies is risky at best, heart breaking at worst. We just fall in love with cute little faces.

Right now, it's caveat emptor. Until it becomes general knowledge that this is not what the breed is meant to be and ALL buyers start on a level playing field, then it's upon the ethics of the breeders to educate their buyers and price their dogs according to the actual quality. JMO.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by jeniece

but the seller should be ethical in placing a wee one.....
That is why I AM HERE ...And if he wasn't healthy.. I would not sell him ...

Again, what I'm saying is that you don't know what lays ahead for this wee one. An ethical breeder would not be selling one this tiny. Again, I know of no ethical breeder that would, he would be placed with the understanding that vet bills may be incurred. How do you know how healthy he is, he isn't even old enough to have had bile acids done; following the correct protocol.

[peanut]

Originally Posted by topknot

I think what people are suggesting in only that you wait awhile till your baby is min. 2 pounds before going to his new home to avoid any stress and any problems that could be passed on to the new owner... And to get the vet check up and testing done. This is ethical practice. Price is up to the breeder and if that is the price, that is the price.

You always know how to say things the right way, that & other reasons is why I respect you so much!!!!

I think the OP said she was going to keep him until 2 lbs, which would be the right thing to do. As for the price, its the breeders right to ask what she wants. I have a great show/exhibitor friend that had a pup that didn't get to 2lbs until 6 months old, she is a 2 years old and weighs 6lbs now. She did keep the girl until she weighed in at 2lbs, but she didn't give the puppy away.

[mojo]

Originally Posted by jeniece

but the seller should be ethical in placing a wee one.....
That is why I AM HERE ...And if he wasn't healthy.. I would not sell him ...

I would just like to point out here that there are many of us on YT who bought perfectly healthy puppies only later to find out what we really bought was a ticking time bomb due to poor breeding.
This is both financially and emotionally devastating.
I am not saying that you are a bad breeder and nobody is bashing you, however, there is a responsibility to educate buyers and that is all the members here are doing.

[Lorraine]

Originally Posted by jeniece

I am keeping him ...He isnt ready and wont be going to his new home for awhile ..The only reason why I posted him at 11 weeks old is because in the Yorkie rules in order to post he had to be atleast 10 weeks old ...
So I'll say it again ..It will be awhile before he can be placed..I was just trying to find someone that was interested in him ..
So you guys feel he is to highly priced ? What do you guys feel about what a reasonable price is ?

At this stage, not a good idea to even begin to look for a home for him. He is too tiny and health issues could show up in the very near future.
For one that size, I wouldn't dream of even beginning to consider a home for him. He would be staying with me until closer to a year of age or more, neutering would be done by my Vet if anesthesia is possible, health testing that can be done would be done although tests can fail to turn up a problem that could be there and that is why he is small.
At a much later time, if all seems well over time, then I might consider a home. I have often given them to someone I knew and knew I could trust them and they knew what they were getting into. That's right, free or at most a very reduced rate that doesn't even begin to cover the money I put into them for neutering, vacc's, health testing.
And that would only be if the little guy looks like he will be ok and hasn't died in the meantime.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by Lorraine

At this stage, not a good idea to even begin to look for a home for him. He is too tiny and health issues could show up in the very near future.
For one that size, I wouldn't dream of even beginning to consider a home for him. He would be staying with me until closer to a year of age or more, neutering would be done by my Vet if anesthesia is possible, health testing that can be done would be done although tests can fail to turn up a problem that could be there and that is why he is small.
At a much later time, if all seems well over time, then I might consider a home. I have often given them to someone I knew and knew I could trust them and they knew what they were getting into. That's right, free or at most a very reduced rate that doesn't even begin to cover the money I put into them for neutering, vacc's, health testing.
And that would only be if the little guy looks like he will be ok and hasn't died in the meantime.

As I said no reputable breeder that I know would dream of selling a pup this small.

[topknot]

Originally Posted by Lorraine

At this stage, not a good idea to even begin to look for a home for him. He is too tiny and health issues could show up in the very near future.
For one that size, I wouldn't dream of even beginning to consider a home for him. He would be staying with me until closer to a year of age or more, neutering would be done by my Vet if anesthesia is possible, health testing that can be done would be done although tests can fail to turn up a problem that could be there and that is why he is small.
At a much later time, if all seems well over time, then I might consider a home. I have often given them to someone I knew and knew I could trust them and they knew what they were getting into. That's right, free or at most a very reduced rate that doesn't even begin to cover the money I put into them for neutering, vacc's, health testing.
And that would only be if the little guy looks like he will be ok and hasn't died in the meantime.

Lorraine gave you some really good advice and I agree. What if you promised him to someone and they put a deposit down and then in a few weeks he dies from a health problem that finally came up. Think how upset this person would be expecting a baby and now not being able to get it. I would wait till he is older and bigger, get him neutered, and tested and then see how he fairs through it all before advertising him. He is so small.

I have had two that grew to be only 2 1/2 pounds. I kept one and when the other was bigger and older gave him to my mother in-law that only lived a few miles from me. They both grew to an old age and did very well, except Benji (mother in-laws yorkie) always went after the big frogs and had to get a shot each time he bite one, but other than that no problems. I also knew their lines/ancestors. Some small ones do really well and some to not. You just do not know till they get older and do the testings. Reminds me of Ch. Wildweir Pomp n' Circumstance. :-)