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Old 10-08-2005, 06:17 PM   #16
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Thanks for the advice Kimberly, but i had no problem selling all six pups.
But how much does it cost to get a dog registered anyway? I just want to know for reference sake.
Got this directly from the AKC website. It's still not too late to register the litter...

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A litter fee is comprised of two parts: a processing fee of $25.00 plus a puppy fee of $2.00 per live puppy (multiply the total number of live puppies by $2.00).

A late fee of $65.00 is required on all litters submitted more than six (6) months after the litter was whelped.

A $15.00 Expedited Delivery Fee can be paid to have the litter kit sent overnight, second business day delivery, once the sire owner approves the litter.

The AKC only accepts VISA, MASTERCARD, AMERICAN EXPRESS and DISCOVER.

The AKC does not accept Debit cards for Fee payment.

Note: The $25 application processing fee is nonrefundable and subject to change without notice.
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Old 10-08-2005, 06:56 PM   #17
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to you the papers don't mean anything but to a buyer they just might. .
I was a buyer at one point and time and papers are deffinatly NOT important for a pet quality dog. I have seen papered pups that are sick and have genetic diseases, i agree that people looking for a pup might see that a pup doesnt have papers and think twice, BUT, nowadays with the amount of puppymills and other questionable breeding practices (who offer pups with AKC registration), are not necessarily a reliable way to ensure that you are getting a better pup. A healthy pup is number one on anyones list when getting a dog, but some people may see that a dog has papers and be mislead. To each his own of course, but common sense should be a prevailing factor. You get youre good ones and bad ones as with everything else in life
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Old 10-08-2005, 06:59 PM   #18
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I live in Northern California... about 20 minutes south of Sacramento. I just checked sacbee.com, and they had puppies there for under 1k that were AKC registered. Unfortunately most of them are male, and I'm looking for a female.
Sounds like you are very close to me, I live in Elk Grove.
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I was a buyer at one point and time and papers are deffinatly NOT important for a pet quality dog. I have seen papered pups that are sick and have genetic diseases, i agree that people looking for a pup might see that a pup doesnt have papers and think twice, BUT, nowadays with the amount of puppymills and other questionable breeding practices (who offer pups with AKC registration), are not necessarily a reliable way to ensure that you are getting a better pup. A healthy pup is number one on anyones list when getting a dog, but some people may see that a dog has papers and be mislead. To each his own of course, but common sense should be a prevailing factor. You get youre good ones and bad ones as with everything else in life
That's why I said to a buyer it just MIGHT. Some may prefer papers even with pet quality and some may not.
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Old 10-08-2005, 07:15 PM   #20
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Default Update! All Six Pups Sold.

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those are some beautiful puppies. papers or not
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That's why I said to a buyer it just MIGHT. Some may prefer papers even with pet quality and some may not.
which is why i said "i agree that people looking for a pup might see that a pup doesnt have papers and think twice"
I didnt disclude the word "might" in youre original post

They are so cute too youre getting me thinking about puppies again and thats not a place my fiance wants me to be
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Gosh, I did not mean to start all this. First congratulations on the sale of all your puppies! When I started this non registered thing, all I was asking is why?? If it only cost $15 each to register your adults, and another $40 to register your litter, then why not get papers for the whole gang?? For an investment of around $70, you could have sold them for so much more. I personally don't buy and never bought a pure bred dog with no papers. (that is just me) I know anyone could lie and get false papers, but papers makes me feel like I'm more likely getting a prue breed.


Did you say update all 6 puppies Sold?? I thought you had 5 for sale??? I have plenty of typ-os too!

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Nah! You didn't start anything...at least I didn't see anything. With that said, I still think that...IMO...one should register a litter. The potential buyer may not care if they have papers or not but it's best to have them on hand for those that do.

Potential buyers may look elsewhere if a pup doesn't have the papers while as someone that it doesn't matter to isn't going to walk away because they come with papers. make sense?
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Those babies are precious!
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forgive my ignorance........... but do the parents have to be AKC in order for the puppies to be registered?
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forgive my ignorance........... but do the parents have to be AKC in order for the puppies to be registered?
yes...but if they have the originaly registration papers, you can still get them registered even as adults. Did the owner not get registration papers? I may have missed that one.
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Any who lives here in New York knows that $600 for Yorkie puppies is not a rip off, even without papers. Everyone that bought a puppy from me (sold all six in three days @ $600) was invited to come and see the both the parents and puppies first before buying. They puppies spoke for themselves with out having any papers. Yorkies go for $1000 to $1500 easy here in pet shops. But before I both my two I wouldn't have paid $300 for those dogs from any of the pet shops we looked at. They not only didn't look like Yorkies (but they had papers), they looked sick and just ragged.
So for me, papers didn't mean anything. My puppies were in perfect health and so was their parents. After seeing both, all six parties that bought my puppies had no questions about not having papers. I even spoke to one women the next day and she said she would have paid ~$1000 for the puppy she just got from me and also would have wanted to buy the dad if we were selling him.
I agree, Jack is not registered and I paid 600.00 and Mandy is registered paid 750.00 for her. But the woman I got her from wanted 950.00 for her.I thought both were good prices for the price of a Yorkie here in NY. When I was looking I didnt see any yorkies that were registered for 1,000.

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those are some beautiful puppies. papers or not
I agree. Gorgeous babies. I don't understand why this thread is totally off topic. Its embarassing.
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The reason I get nervous when I see pure breed pups for sale with no papers is this... when I sold my pups it was on a limited contract.. meaning they could not breed those pups and get them akc reg... but in reality they could breed the pups and just not paper them.

So when I see no papers I wonder, were the original dogs sold as limited/or spay and neuter contract? and the person (not meaning you) went behind the original breeders back and breed the pups anyways?

I imagine others wonder about this also, making them a little weary of buying a nonpapered pup... I don't understand why a person wouldn't get the papers (the breeder)

Here in my state, non papered pups are 500... papered 900 up. I sold my pups for 700.. because they are on the bigger size, but are really not so big anymore. (akc papered)

If you are able to paper your pups (the parents have to be akc to do this) you may want to consider it, many people would feel more comfortable buying them.... if you are not able to paper the pups, well there is nothing you can do... but people will wonder why, which could turn a lot of potential buyers away.

Good luck selling your pups- they are a lot of fun to watch them grow

edited to add: they are very cute, and I did not mean any offense, I was just trying to expain why papers can be important to the buyer
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