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Fashionlady 04-15-2009 06:34 PM

Sometime people are what they seem to be. amazing how someone can to do something sooo nice and be the bad guy!!! When you are a breeder you are always sending your puppies to a home you have not seen. i'm sure since Natlie is a long time breeder she knows what she is doing and checked he's story out. and he didn't asks for a dog for free. alot of people come here when they are looking for there first yorkie for advise.i think he was asking for an older dogs as his mom could not handle a pupple. Alot of bad breeders just but there non breedable dogs in shelter. And don't bother to find them home at all. there are thousand of yorkies in shelter today. and hundred of them will be put down. i give anyone credit for not going to a pet store.

tobymom 04-15-2009 06:39 PM

Cynical I guess?
 
I am not saying that the breeder did anything wrong; on the contrary she has her heart in the right place. And I hope she did speak to the man she is sending her dog to. It is like I said , people aren't always what they seem, people do lie and misrepresent themselves, and in cyberspace it is a whole lot easier to do so.

Fashionlady 04-15-2009 06:45 PM

i think people can be dishonset any were and any time. But i do like to look for the good in people. it's seems there is so little left in the world today. :)

JustLookin 04-15-2009 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Fashionlady (Post 2579531)
i think people can be dishonset any were and any time. But i do like to look for the good in people. it's seems there is so little left in the world today. :)

I'm with you, FashionLady. Sometimes, you just have to open your heart and trust people. Besides, Natalie knew when she made the offer that she would have to talk to the guy to make arrangement, thus giving herself the opportunity to get a feel for Keven.

I cringe every time I see one of those ads where people are asking for free animals. Generally, people who want something for free are not going to spend the money (or don't have the money) to take proper care of a pet. Like you pointed out, though, Keven never asked for a free dog. I applaud him for taking time to search for a place such as this to look for a pet for his mom. There are many breeders who need to retire older dogs, and this seems like a perfect arrangement for both Keven and Natalie. Also, Keven has to pay shipping on the pup, and that's not free either. Good for Natalie for being so giving!!

Keven 04-15-2009 11:14 PM

Hey ladies ... and gentlemen,

Sorry I'm just getting back to "life" but I've been unpacking, working and getting myself reorganized back in Texas.

First of all – I want to thank each of you for your prayers and positive wishes. The night before I left, I brought my Mom to this message board and read her the messages. It’s the first time she’s ever been to a “message board” and she was very touched. Thank you.

For those concerned that I’m a liar, cheat or con looking for a free ride, perhaps it would help if I introduced myself a little more. My name is Keven Hester, Helen Keven Hester actually. Yes, I’m female and my middle name is REALLY Keven. That’s why it’s spelled different. I know that’s no huge surprise to Natalie as she and I talked via phone the other day. I am a web designer and have a full time job moderating different communities online for a company out of MA. Not only do I appreciate and understand your concerns, I encounter them on a daily basis.

My little brother, Patrick, and I gave Mom her first Yorkie as our moving out of the house present – to reduce “empty nest”. Little did we know she would ever love anything like she did that little dog. Patrick got a Yorkie of his own soon after and when she got older, he asked Mom to take her as he was afraid due to her failing eyesight, she might fall and drown in his pool or one of his ponds around his gardens: in walked Raisin into her heart. Patrick died, of cancer, in January of 2007. Mom hasn’t laughed or smiled much since he passed. Raisin had to be put down some months ago as she got cancer at the age of 18 and it came back after surgical removal.

Mom … my parents will have been married 50 years this coming August. They are both in their early 70s; my Mom’s a retired RN and my Dad is still practicing law. They live in Lafayette, Louisiana. I have given Natalie their contact information and really don’t feel it’s right to offer particulars and details publically on a message board and I’m sure you understand. My Mom has survived breast cancer (20 years ago), colon cancer (12 years ago) and now has advanced breast cancer. WE are fighting but life can’t all be “the fight”. The smiles and warmth raise energy. A positive attitude can make such a difference.

Me, I never had a Yorkie of my own, but I never left Mom’s house that I didn’t find one hiding in my purse as I searched for my keys. I’m more the Labrador type and have had them for many, many years. Here’s my main boy, Tex … http://www.gatorpointstexasgentleman.com/ - you’ll meet of our girls on the site too and I’ll be adding my little Bull (http://www.gooddoginfo.com/gdc/asp/viewpedigree.asp?DogNo=84520) into the site when we introduce our Texas Star Retrievers.

I am active in the United Kennel Club’s Hunting Retriever Club (HRC) and I’m sure you can find some around their web site that can verify me as I serve as one of the volunteers moderators in their forums: http://www.huntingretrieverclub.org/ and designed their web site. All of our labs participate in HRC and now AKC hunt tests. All of them sleep “in bed” with every night. In fact, we get lots of ribbing for the level of “love” we give our dogs.

There are a few people that you are welcomed to contact to verify me, my love and respect of the dog:

Bill and Cleo Watson of Gator Point Kennels (I currently have three of their dogs)

Dale and Denise Johnson of D2 Kennels (Tex, Rebel and Star’s trainers)

Lindsay Robinson of Gypsy Oak Retrievers (Bull’s breeder and trainer – Bull is a field trial hopeful so required a different type of training than our other labs). Lindsay leaves next week for Norway for a month so “now” is the time if you’d like to verify me through him.

My primary vet is Dr. Chris Peek of the Davis Animal Clinic in North Richland Hills, TX. Chris is a Texas A&M vet who’s very talented all the way around and specializes with my sporting related issues. I also have vets in Louisiana and Tennessee for my dogs needs when they are with their trainers.

I came to your forum for some direction and my goodness, it ended up being more than I could have even dreamed! I know the value of forums … I’m only a newbie “here”. Honestly, the last thing I was looking for was a free ride from anyone. Just some direction from the experts – as I realized as a dog lover and frequent community participant – the value that comes from the forum of experts that exists in specialized communities.

I’m still counting my blessings and appreciate for Natalie’s kindness. Today Mom called me to ask if I’d heard anymore on Catrina. I just assured her that I’d expedited payment of her plane ticket.

I welcome verification, I truly do. My email is keven@aol.com if I can offer any additional specifics or clarifications. I want you to know this is real – it is honest and it couldn’t be more opened and from the heart.

Again, my sincerest thanks to all of you - and especially Natalie. Even those that doubt do so with an honest heart and concern for others. You are right: it happens - far too often - but rest assured, it's not happening here and now.

Kev

keylargolady100 04-16-2009 04:19 AM

Hello Helen. I would like to take the opportunity to welcome you to Yorkie Talk. I have found this site to be so valuable in more ways than I ever imagined. I am in wonder of the kindness of Natalie. But that is the way people are here. They are just wonderful. I have been following this thread and I can't wait to hear how your mom is when she gets her new little fur baby.
I do feel bad that you felt the need to justify the transaction between you and Natalie. But there are some people here who are just so cynical that they question everything! And that is a shame.
Natalie obviously felt something right at first with the story about your mother, that touched her heart, and she needed to help your mom. That makes her wonderful, and my hero :D
Please keep us all informed as to how things go with Catrina and your Mom. Please let your mom know that I send her best wishes with her coming battle, but it will be one that is going to be made a bit easier for her now.

nlappegard 04-16-2009 05:13 AM

retirement Home
 
Well i talked to him and he even offered me money for her he sent me his mom's name and address to. He sincerly seems like a nice person. Sometimes you just have to trust people in this world. If you always look at the world like a bad place it will be bad to you God puts people in our lifes for a reason i always beleived and i let him lead me through life it's better that way. If someone is going to do me wrong i'm sure he will take care of it. My job is to treat people as he would thats all i have to do life is better that way

Fashionlady 04-16-2009 06:14 AM

Helen,
I hope your mother does well in her battle with cancer. i will say a prayer for her. i know who hard it is on the family member. My father in law had colon cancer and lost he battle in feb of 2006. i know the furbaby will give her lots of love and company while she is going though this tuff time.

rtsmichele 04-16-2009 06:19 AM

Natalie,

Can you please send me the dog's measurements? Keven, if you can pick out an outfit and let me know a color, I'd still like to offer my services as a seamstress. I also crochet and knit, if you'd prefer a sweater. You can see a couple of pictures on my photo album. I made the dog's sweaters, Abbi's tutu, Abbi's t-shirt and the dog's pillows. I have several other pieces that I made last week, but I need to get new batteries for my camera. I'll see if I can get some more pictures up today.

Michele :-)

phfgkl 04-16-2009 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by nlappegard (Post 2579144)
Thanks for the energy i believe if people in this world would just help one another out like they use to the world would be a much better place. What great love could anyone ever have then a yorkie. There always happy to see you they give you unconditional love and they never talk back or try to make you feel bad all they do is bring happiness into your life there such a joy. I have another 6 month old male who has an awesome pedigree that never got his testicals there right there but they never dropped he only weighs 3-lbs and i need to find him a home to. So if you know anyone that needs a small male pet let me know he is champion sired and his mother is Ullie on my website and his father is Ziggy my canadian champion. This is a picture of him
Attachment 273515

Ahh Natalie he is adorable. If my son didn't have a brother and sister yorkie already, he would probably love him. He said he prefers little males over females. :)

phfgkl 04-16-2009 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nlappegard (Post 2579980)
Well i talked to him and he even offered me money for her he sent me his mom's name and address to. He sincerly seems like a nice person. Sometimes you just have to trust people in this world. If you always look at the world like a bad place it will be bad to you God puts people in our lifes for a reason i always beleived and i let him lead me through life it's better that way. If someone is going to do me wrong i'm sure he will take care of it. My job is to treat people as he would thats all i have to do life is better that way

?? You talked to him? You mean her, Keven is a female.:confused:

phfgkl 04-16-2009 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keven (Post 2579788)
Hey ladies ... and gentlemen,

Sorry I'm just getting back to "life" but I've been unpacking, working and getting myself reorganized back in Texas.

First of all – I want to thank each of you for your prayers and positive wishes. The night before I left, I brought my Mom to this message board and read her the messages. It’s the first time she’s ever been to a “message board” and she was very touched. Thank you.

For those concerned that I’m a liar, cheat or con looking for a free ride, perhaps it would help if I introduced myself a little more. My name is Keven Hester, Helen Keven Hester actually. Yes, I’m female and my middle name is REALLY Keven. That’s why it’s spelled different. I know that’s no huge surprise to Natalie as she and I talked via phone the other day. I am a web designer and have a full time job moderating different communities online for a company out of MA. Not only do I appreciate and understand your concerns, I encounter them on a daily basis.

My little brother, Patrick, and I gave Mom her first Yorkie as our moving out of the house present – to reduce “empty nest”. Little did we know she would ever love anything like she did that little dog. Patrick got a Yorkie of his own soon after and when she got older, he asked Mom to take her as he was afraid due to her failing eyesight, she might fall and drown in his pool or one of his ponds around his gardens: in walked Raisin into her heart. Patrick died, of cancer, in January of 2007. Mom hasn’t laughed or smiled much since he passed. Raisin had to be put down some months ago as she got cancer at the age of 18 and it came back after surgical removal.

Mom … my parents will have been married 50 years this coming August. They are both in their early 70s; my Mom’s a retired RN and my Dad is still practicing law. They live in Lafayette, Louisiana. I have given Natalie their contact information and really don’t feel it’s right to offer particulars and details publically on a message board and I’m sure you understand. My Mom has survived breast cancer (20 years ago), colon cancer (12 years ago) and now has advanced breast cancer. WE are fighting but life can’t all be “the fight”. The smiles and warmth raise energy. A positive attitude can make such a difference.

Me, I never had a Yorkie of my own, but I never left Mom’s house that I didn’t find one hiding in my purse as I searched for my keys. I’m more the Labrador type and have had them for many, many years. Here’s my main boy, Tex … http://www.gatorpointstexasgentleman.com/ - you’ll meet of our girls on the site too and I’ll be adding my little Bull (http://www.gooddoginfo.com/gdc/asp/viewpedigree.asp?DogNo=84520) into the site when we introduce our Texas Star Retrievers.

I am active in the United Kennel Club’s Hunting Retriever Club (HRC) and I’m sure you can find some around their web site that can verify me as I serve as one of the volunteers moderators in their forums: http://www.huntingretrieverclub.org/ and designed their web site. All of our labs participate in HRC and now AKC hunt tests. All of them sleep “in bed” with every night. In fact, we get lots of ribbing for the level of “love” we give our dogs.

There are a few people that you are welcomed to contact to verify me, my love and respect of the dog:

Bill and Cleo Watson of Gator Point Kennels (I currently have three of their dogs)

Dale and Denise Johnson of D2 Kennels (Tex, Rebel and Star’s trainers)

Lindsay Robinson of Gypsy Oak Retrievers (Bull’s breeder and trainer – Bull is a field trial hopeful so required a different type of training than our other labs). Lindsay leaves next week for Norway for a month so “now” is the time if you’d like to verify me through him.

My primary vet is Dr. Chris Peek of the Davis Animal Clinic in North Richland Hills, TX. Chris is a Texas A&M vet who’s very talented all the way around and specializes with my sporting related issues. I also have vets in Louisiana and Tennessee for my dogs needs when they are with their trainers.

I came to your forum for some direction and my goodness, it ended up being more than I could have even dreamed! I know the value of forums … I’m only a newbie “here”. Honestly, the last thing I was looking for was a free ride from anyone. Just some direction from the experts – as I realized as a dog lover and frequent community participant – the value that comes from the forum of experts that exists in specialized communities.

I’m still counting my blessings and appreciate for Natalie’s kindness. Today Mom called me to ask if I’d heard anymore on Catrina. I just assured her that I’d expedited payment of her plane ticket.

I welcome verification, I truly do. My email is keven@aol.com if I can offer any additional specifics or clarifications. I want you to know this is real – it is honest and it couldn’t be more opened and from the heart.

Again, my sincerest thanks to all of you - and especially Natalie. Even those that doubt do so with an honest heart and concern for others. You are right: it happens - far too often - but rest assured, it's not happening here and now.

Kev

My nieces middle name is James, of course, right now, she's only almost 4, so she goes by Claire.;)

dogbert 04-16-2009 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phfgkl (Post 2580147)
?? You talked to him? You mean her, Keven is a female.:confused:

My neice has a middle name of Ryan and I met someone who named their daughter Gregg. I never knew them enough to get the story on the "Gregg" name.

phfgkl 04-16-2009 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dogbert (Post 2580234)
My neice has a middle name of Ryan and I met someone who named their daughter Gregg. I never knew them enough to get the story on the "Gregg" name.

The middle name isn't what I'm referring too right now. Keven already said what her name is, I'm questioning the one giving Keven the dog, she said she's talked to "him" as in Keven, and if Keven is a she, then who is the OP referring too? I got lost on that one

TLC 04-16-2009 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phfgkl (Post 2580305)
The middle name isn't what I'm referring too right now. Keven already said what her name is, I'm questioning the one giving Keven the dog, she said she's talked to "him" as in Keven, and if Keven is a she, then who is the OP referring too? I got lost on that one

...me too :(

zoeybear 04-16-2009 12:35 PM

Maybe Keven prefers "he"? We don't know and I don't care. Im glad that a girl needed someone to love her and a mother needed someone to love and they found each other. Happy ending.

luvfla 04-16-2009 12:44 PM

I can't wait to see pics of Catrina & her new Mommy!!!

YorkieShadow 04-16-2009 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phfgkl (Post 2580305)
The middle name isn't what I'm referring too right now. Keven already said what her name is, I'm questioning the one giving Keven the dog, she said she's talked to "him" as in Keven, and if Keven is a she, then who is the OP referring too? I got lost on that one

I'm a little confused on that too.
I know a lot of people come with the truth and then theres others who come to scam. so one has to be very careful.you can never be sure.
I just hope that the breeder checked into it all before sending off her sweet little girl. and I hope its true and this little girl has a loving wonderful home and I hope that the lady who gets her heals completely and they have a wonderful life together.

PrincessDiana 04-16-2009 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phfgkl (Post 2580305)
The middle name isn't what I'm referring too right now. Keven already said what her name is, I'm questioning the one giving Keven the dog, she said she's talked to "him" as in Keven, and if Keven is a she, then who is the OP referring too? I got lost on that one

:thumbup: Agreed. Just wondering...

nlappegard 04-16-2009 02:27 PM

Kevin
 
she is a she i made an error when i said he and why does it matter anyways i am the one giving her the dog and who i place my dogs with is totally up to me if i didn't thing they would give her a wonderful home i wouldn't send them the dog in the first place. Why is it that whenever there is something good on yorkie talk some one always has a way to cut it down or try to make it bad I thought this was suppose to be a hppy place to share things about our wonderful yorkies that bring so much joy to our lifes

phfgkl 04-16-2009 04:51 PM

Hummm.. Well, it wasn't Keven that had me confused, it was you. :confused: I was reading and was real impressed with what you were doing. Then I read what Keven wrote, that made sense, I know a lot of people use names that can me either boy or girl, or sound boyish and change spelling, but, then I read what you wrote, and you did not just mess up and say he or him once, you actually said it all the way through your post. Here's what you wrote, this would make a lot of people question this I think. Keven comes in and says he is actually a she and 2 posts later you're writing this.??:confused:

Well i talked to him and he even offered me money for her he sent me his mom's name and address to. He sincerly seems like a nice person. Sometimes you just have to trust people in this world. If you always look at the world like a bad place it will be bad to you God puts people in our lifes for a reason i always beleived and i let him lead me through life it's better that way. If someone is going to do me wrong i'm sure he will take care of it. My job is to treat people as he would thats all i have to do life is better that way

nlappegard 04-16-2009 05:22 PM

Kevin
 
Well needless to say it doesn't matter anyways I talked to her and she is a very sincere honest person and i am happy to send her Catrina for her mom and this transaction is between her and i anyways it has nothing to do with anyone else. I didn't know i was responding to someone to be judged or on trial

phfgkl 04-16-2009 05:39 PM

Why are you being so defensive. We all thought it was nice what you were doing, but, then you started calling her a he after you talked to her.:rolleyes:

YorkieShadow 04-16-2009 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lappegard (Post 2581179)
Well needless to say it doesn't matter anyways I talked to her and she is a very sincere honest person and i am happy to send her Catrina for her mom and this transaction is between her and i anyways it has nothing to do with anyone else. I didn't know i was responding to someone to be judged or on trial

I think people here just become concerned because there are so many scams going on in the world today. and they just wanted to make sure your little one was going to end up in good hands, and then when you said you talked to him it confused everyone. I think that's all it was.

there's was a man not saying its this man/ women at all. just saying he was going around dog forums and craigslist trying to get free and cheap dogs and then he was taking them no not to rehome or to sell them but to kill them he abused and killed all of them. just goes to show you can not trust anyone.

kalina82 04-16-2009 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nlappegard (Post 2581179)
Well needless to say it doesn't matter anyways I talked to her and she is a very sincere honest person and i am happy to send her Catrina for her mom and this transaction is between her and i anyways it has nothing to do with anyone else. I didn't know i was responding to someone to be judged or on trial


your right, it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks. You did a wonderful thing for this family.

keylargolady100 04-17-2009 04:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nlappegard (Post 2581179)
Well needless to say it doesn't matter anyways I talked to her and she is a very sincere honest person and i am happy to send her Catrina for her mom and this transaction is between her and i anyways it has nothing to do with anyone else. I didn't know i was responding to someone to be judged or on trial

You are absolutely right! It does seem that we are judged alot here, something that shouldn't happen. I feel what you have done is such a wonderful act of kindness, and will help this lady who is going through a horrible time in her life. For you to be able to make her smile again, makes you a HERO to me. Thank you for helping this family.
:thumbs up:thumbs up:thumbs up:bravo::number1ri

Sugar's Mom 04-17-2009 04:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phfgkl (Post 2581207)
Why are you being so defensive. We all thought it was nice what you were doing, but, then you started calling her a he after you talked to her.:rolleyes:

So what!!!!! people make mistakes. it is sad that people try to make something out of every post. I would have gotten defensive also. Why shouldn't she when a few people were trying to make something bad out of this post. First on kevens side, then on Nat's. my goodness. Leave it alone. it worked out just exactly the way these two people involved wanted it to. no one needs to worry about Natalie making a bad choice or not checking her out. She knows what she is doing and it really is no one else's business. it shouyld have ended several pages ago when he thanked her for the dog. No one else had to jump on board. No one else'ss business.

luvfla 04-17-2009 05:09 AM

SO when does baby girl go to her new Momma???:p

BonBon 04-17-2009 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luvfla (Post 2581810)
SO when does baby girl go to her new Momma???:p

I was wondering, too? I'd love to see pics when she arrives! :)

tiggerr36792 04-17-2009 06:47 AM

All I can say is YEAH Nat :thumbup::thumbup: I knew you were a special friend to me and a great lady and this just shows how special you truely are!! As for Kev ;) what you did for your mom is wonderful and you will be blessed for your kindness...NOW for the rest of you(you know who you are) whom always seem to turn a positive post into a negative one so quickly I am ashamed of you.:thumbdown:eek:How does this always seem to happen where ppl stick their noses in other people business and assume the worst. Why can we start assuming the best in ppl until they prove us wrong??? Even in a court of law your innocent until proven quilty right?? So lets start being more positive around here, this is a place to share our wonderful joys with our furkids with each other. It's not suppossed to be a place to bicker with each other.


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