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b_veselka · 07-09-2005, 03:34 PM

I appreciate all of your comments on this situation. I totally agree that a breeder has every right in the world to choose where the puppy goes. I have not ever said that I was against that. I was just truely confused about the entire situation. I mean one minute we are talking about the possibility of him being shipped to me on Saturday and on Sunday I am getting an e-mail that he will not be mine afterall. I had been very excited about getting him and many of you shared in my excitement and had been wanting updates and photos of my new baby. The whole point of this thread was to keep those of you who were concerned in the loop with the what had happened with him. As far as my calling the vet, as I stated I had called as a reminder to have those knees checked not to try to get info. from the vet. This was his 2nd time to the vet (he had gone the day before for the health certificate) and the 1st time there was no report given on the knees. In the meantime I had been notified by another Yorkie Talker who had been in a similar situation to mine and her pup was shipped w/LP. I wanted to be certain that nothing was forgotten on this 2nd visit to the vet. According to the warranty that I signed LP is not a covered thing and I wanted to be sure that before the pup was shipped and before I spent 2000.00 on a pup that he would come to me with no problems. I understand that 2000.00 may not seem like a lot of money to some people, but you better believe it is a lot to me.
I also agree with you all that this is a blessing is disguise. I try not to have hard feelings about this whole situation and I am moving on. So thank you all for your advice and opinions on this matter, and once again my intent was not to start any problems rather keep my Yorkie Talk friends updated on my situation. We care about what is going on in one another's lives and I think that's great!

LvMyYorki · 07-09-2005, 03:39 PM

Very well said Beth! Thank you for keeping all of us updated on your search!

YorkieRose · 07-09-2005, 04:18 PM

Please call my vet..ask anything you want to know about me or my Yorkies..tell the vet to check any body part on your puppy you want checked..if you have the slightest hestition...the check will be in the mail right back at ya! I do not need or want stress and headaches over a puppy...if the pup is not right for you, believe me the next in line will be happy to hear it.

SoCalyorkiLvr · 07-09-2005, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by LvMyYorki

No accusation, just a question Kim. I asked about it bc of what you wrote in your original post. I don't know what "research" you did? Could you explain what you meant by that? And as far as "once again".. I don't know what you are talking about here either? So I don't see any need for apologies.

Research? Sure. Beth had mentioned that she had previously posted about whether we knew the breeder and I simply did a search of threads started by Beth until I found the one where she referred to this breeder. It was quite simple. I had never even read this thread util after the breeder had posted. I certainly do not expect you to believe me but admin can tell you that I was never on this thread until I posted!

As for "once again"...how quickly you forget. It was your "DEBUT" on this forum where you and several others accused me of being the one who notified Royal Puppies of eensor's post of her email. Even when the person came on herself and admitted to it, no one ever apologized to me or retracted the accusations. I went back and checked and admin deleted your post but I am sure you remember it now.

SoCalyorkiLvr · 07-09-2005, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by rnnw62

Last Socalyorkielvr (Kim) I hope you know I not only appreciate
your views but I have great respect for you as a person. There
have been many times that my mind has come to form a conclusion
and then I will read one of your posts on the same subject and
it opens my mind in a whole different direction it would not have
gone in otherwise. I know you get the short end of the stick some-
times but this forum does need people like you.

I truly appreciate this. Thank you.

LvMyYorki · 07-09-2005, 05:57 PM

FYI...Admin didnt delete my post on that thread Kim... All I did was ask if it was you that notified Royal Puppies. I remember the member that came on and "confessed"... funny how she miraculously appeared that night and then never posted again on YT.

Can you stop making this about you please? This is about Beth and her heartache over losing the puppy she wanted so much!

txshopper73 · 07-09-2005, 05:58 PM

enough, please

LvMyYorki · 07-09-2005, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by txshopper73

enough, please

My thoughts exactly!!!

browniesmom622 · 07-09-2005, 06:07 PM

i hope you find your pup soon all things happen for a reason good luck

!

SoCalyorkiLvr · 07-09-2005, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by red98vett

Well..First - a good breeder DOES choose where she places her pups - I think sometimes people just don't mesh for one reason or another ...but I doubt it's anything personal Beth -

To agree with Beth - IF I were spending 2 grand I probably WOULD speak with the vet myself -It sounds like there is more involved here. I think the Breeder is a good breeder - I know how great Tino is - it says alot that Tara still has a relationship with her breeder - It really sounds like maybe things just aren't meant to be here and the good thing is - no harm done - money is refunded and everyone starts fresh.

why all of a sudden breeders are getting contacted over posts HERE is a little bothersome - it seems only for the purpose of stirring things up more.

I don't know this for a fact but from my reading of the communications the breeder's concern about Beth talking to the vet was that she did it "without her knowledge". I don't think this breeder has a problem with the fact that Beth wanted to talk to the vet but rather that she went to the trouble of finding out who the vet was and "tracking her down" so to speak without first discussing it with her. Beth's reason for doing this made sense to me, but maybe, along with the "other" things that the breeder found bothersome, this was a compilation of a lot of things. That's what it sounds like to me.

As for "why all of a sudden breeders are getting contacted over posts HERE" I would say you should expect on a public forum about yorkies that yorkie people know other yorkie people and with search engines, etc., everyone in the yorkie world has the potential to read what was written at some time or another. Isn't that why you posted those letters here about your bad breeder experiences and you got the results you did??? It happens both ways. The internet has made us a "small world indeed".

SoCalyorkiLvr · 07-09-2005, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by LvMyYorki

FYI...Admin didnt delete my post on that thread Kim... All I did was ask if it was you that notified Royal Puppies. I remember the member that came on and "confessed"... funny how she miraculously appeared that night and then never posted again on YT.

You are right...it wasn't deleted and the members can read what you posted for themselves. I have no need to comment further.

b_veselka · 07-09-2005, 06:31 PM

Socal- as far as going through any trouble to find the vet- I called information and asked for the vet in Henrietta- NO PROBLEM. In case it has been forgotten I called the vet to talk to Kim. Since she was not there yet I left a message to have her call me. Before getting off the phone I let the receptionist know why I was calling and simply asked if she knew if his knees had been checked as to not be redundant when Kim called me back. Shortly after that I got a hold of Kim and told her immediately that I had left a message at the vet's office for her to call me and why. I had absolutely nothing to hide. I can see your point though as to how it may have been perceived. As for the other "issues" that I apparently have, I would be quite interested myself to know what they are. As stated in her e-mail apparently the first thing that bothered her was:
"I guess the first thing was when you called the vet's office about Diesel."
The only contact I had after that was telling her which pup I would take in his place and when he would be shipped. Like I said I am moving on. However if others would like to stay on this subject - it is your life. Do as you please.
Have a great weekend...I am done.

ilovemyyorkie · 07-09-2005, 06:37 PM

Do you all realize how immature you are making yourselves look? First of all, Beth obviously just wanted someone to pat her on the back and tell her that she was right and Kim was wrong. Personally, I wouldnt go to a chat room of perfect strangers and ask them advice on something that concerned my life.. especially if it was sooo devistating and heart breaking as she makes it seem. Seeing all of this reminds me of junior high and it makes me sick to my stomach. Poor, poor Susie get her feelings hurt and wants to feel better about herself so she goes to a group of people and mouths the person that hurt her feelings... then that group continues to mouth the outsider, furthering the self esteem of Susie... then the group gets caught, something that wasnt supposed to happen (God forbid).. so they all gang up on the outsider.... not even knowing the whole story, at all. Not to mention the fact that NONE of the other people should even be concerned about the outsider. For all they know, the story could be completely warped into Susie's perspective.... because she did get her feelings hurt, and she did just want someone to justify her emotions. ---

All of you have way too much time on your hands to just sit around and mouth someone that you dont even know, do you all not have jobs.. or something to do instead of this... kudos to those of you who tried to stop this insanity.. but to those of you who threw fire to the flame: I can honestly say that I am ashamed for you all.. even Tara, you HAVE a puppy from Kim and you love it.. and its obvious, but you just hopped right in there and bashed Kim along with everyone else.... theres some real stability for you. And Beth I hope you got what you wanted out of all of this, boy, youve really proven yourself. I can see why Kim thought there might be some conflict in the future if she went ahead with this.. no telling what you would have done if she had given you this innocent puppy.. yes, I would have to say this is all a blessing for Kim and Trigger.

txshopper73 · 07-09-2005, 06:38 PM

It wouldn't be hard to do. Henrietta is a small town. About 20 minutes from my home town.

txshopper73 · 07-09-2005, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ilovemyyorkie

Do you all realize how immature you are making yourselves look? First of all, Beth obviously just wanted someone to pat her on the back and tell her that she was right and Kim was wrong. Personally, I wouldnt go to a chat room of perfect strangers and ask them advice on something that concerned my life.. especially if it was sooo devistating and heart breaking as she makes it seem. Seeing all of this reminds me of junior high and it makes me sick to my stomach. Poor, poor Susie get her feelings hurt and wants to feel better about herself so she goes to a group of people and mouths the person that hurt her feelings... then that group continues to mouth the outsider, furthering the self esteem of Susie... then the group gets caught, something that wasnt supposed to happen (God forbid).. so they all gang up on the outsider.... not even knowing the whole story, at all. Not to mention the fact that NONE of the other people should even be concerned about the outsider. For all they know, the story could be completely warped into Susie's perspective.... because she did get her feelings hurt, and she did just want someone to justify her emotions. ---

All of you have way too much time on your hands to just sit around and mouth someone that you dont even know, do you all not have jobs.. or something to do instead of this... kudos to those of you who tried to stop this insanity.. but to those of you who threw fire to the flame: I can honestly say that I am ashamed for you all.. even Tina, you HAVE a puppy from Kim and you love it.. and its obvious, but you just hopped right in there and bashed Kim along with everyone else.... theres some real stability for you. And Beth I hope you got what you wanted out of all of this, boy, youve really proven yourself. I can see why Kim thought there might be some conflict in the future if she went ahead with this.. no telling what you would have done if she had given you this innocent puppy.. yes, I would have to say this is all a blessing for Kim and Trigger.

And just WHO do you think you are? YOu just come to our forum...your FIRST post and try to belittle us? You don't know jack about what is going on!

07-09-2005, 03:34 PM	#31
b_veselka Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: South Texas Posts: 307	I appreciate all of your comments on this situation. I totally agree that a breeder has every right in the world to choose where the puppy goes. I have not ever said that I was against that. I was just truely confused about the entire situation. I mean one minute we are talking about the possibility of him being shipped to me on Saturday and on Sunday I am getting an e-mail that he will not be mine afterall. I had been very excited about getting him and many of you shared in my excitement and had been wanting updates and photos of my new baby. The whole point of this thread was to keep those of you who were concerned in the loop with the what had happened with him. As far as my calling the vet, as I stated I had called as a reminder to have those knees checked not to try to get info. from the vet. This was his 2nd time to the vet (he had gone the day before for the health certificate) and the 1st time there was no report given on the knees. In the meantime I had been notified by another Yorkie Talker who had been in a similar situation to mine and her pup was shipped w/LP. I wanted to be certain that nothing was forgotten on this 2nd visit to the vet. According to the warranty that I signed LP is not a covered thing and I wanted to be sure that before the pup was shipped and before I spent 2000.00 on a pup that he would come to me with no problems. I understand that 2000.00 may not seem like a lot of money to some people, but you better believe it is a lot to me. I also agree with you all that this is a blessing is disguise. I try not to have hard feelings about this whole situation and I am moving on. So thank you all for your advice and opinions on this matter, and once again my intent was not to start any problems rather keep my Yorkie Talk friends updated on my situation. We care about what is going on in one another's lives and I think that's great! __________________ Beth Veselka

07-09-2005, 03:39 PM	#32
LvMyYorki Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Asheville, NC Posts: 1,181	Very well said Beth! Thank you for keeping all of us updated on your search! __________________ Tara, Tino & Diva Bunny Diva Bunny: http://www.dogster.com/?141104 Rudolph Valentino: http://www.dogster.com/?76963

07-09-2005, 04:18 PM	#33
YorkieRose No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 8,577	pup Please call my vet..ask anything you want to know about me or my Yorkies..tell the vet to check any body part on your puppy you want checked..if you have the slightest hestition...the check will be in the mail right back at ya! I do not need or want stress and headaches over a puppy...if the pup is not right for you, believe me the next in line will be happy to hear it.

07-09-2005, 05:57 PM	#36
LvMyYorki Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Asheville, NC Posts: 1,181	FYI...Admin didnt delete my post on that thread Kim... All I did was ask if it was you that notified Royal Puppies. I remember the member that came on and "confessed"... funny how she miraculously appeared that night and then never posted again on YT. Can you stop making this about you please? This is about Beth and her heartache over losing the puppy she wanted so much! __________________ Tara, Tino & Diva Bunny Diva Bunny: http://www.dogster.com/?141104 Rudolph Valentino: http://www.dogster.com/?76963

07-09-2005, 05:58 PM	#37
txshopper73 Donating YT 14K Club Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 14,226 Blog Entries: 1	enough, please __________________ As always...JMO (Just My Opinion) Kimberley

07-09-2005, 06:07 PM	#39
browniesmom622 Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: ny Posts: 11,253 Blog Entries: 5	i hope you find your pup soon all things happen for a reason good luck ! __________________ We Love our Yt Angel! My Website< > FB page

07-09-2005, 06:31 PM	#42
b_veselka Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: South Texas Posts: 307	Socal- as far as going through any trouble to find the vet- I called information and asked for the vet in Henrietta- NO PROBLEM. In case it has been forgotten I called the vet to talk to Kim. Since she was not there yet I left a message to have her call me. Before getting off the phone I let the receptionist know why I was calling and simply asked if she knew if his knees had been checked as to not be redundant when Kim called me back. Shortly after that I got a hold of Kim and told her immediately that I had left a message at the vet's office for her to call me and why. I had absolutely nothing to hide. I can see your point though as to how it may have been perceived. As for the other "issues" that I apparently have, I would be quite interested myself to know what they are. As stated in her e-mail apparently the first thing that bothered her was: "I guess the first thing was when you called the vet's office about Diesel." The only contact I had after that was telling her which pup I would take in his place and when he would be shipped. Like I said I am moving on. However if others would like to stay on this subject - it is your life. Do as you please. Have a great weekend...I am done. __________________ Beth Veselka

07-09-2005, 06:37 PM	#43
ilovemyyorkie BANNED! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 2	wow.. i am genuinely amazed. Do you all realize how immature you are making yourselves look? First of all, Beth obviously just wanted someone to pat her on the back and tell her that she was right and Kim was wrong. Personally, I wouldnt go to a chat room of perfect strangers and ask them advice on something that concerned my life.. especially if it was sooo devistating and heart breaking as she makes it seem. Seeing all of this reminds me of junior high and it makes me sick to my stomach. Poor, poor Susie get her feelings hurt and wants to feel better about herself so she goes to a group of people and mouths the person that hurt her feelings... then that group continues to mouth the outsider, furthering the self esteem of Susie... then the group gets caught, something that wasnt supposed to happen (God forbid).. so they all gang up on the outsider.... not even knowing the whole story, at all. Not to mention the fact that NONE of the other people should even be concerned about the outsider. For all they know, the story could be completely warped into Susie's perspective.... because she did get her feelings hurt, and she did just want someone to justify her emotions. --- All of you have way too much time on your hands to just sit around and mouth someone that you dont even know, do you all not have jobs.. or something to do instead of this... kudos to those of you who tried to stop this insanity.. but to those of you who threw fire to the flame: I can honestly say that I am ashamed for you all.. even Tara, you HAVE a puppy from Kim and you love it.. and its obvious, but you just hopped right in there and bashed Kim along with everyone else.... theres some real stability for you. And Beth I hope you got what you wanted out of all of this, boy, youve really proven yourself. I can see why Kim thought there might be some conflict in the future if she went ahead with this.. no telling what you would have done if she had given you this innocent puppy.. yes, I would have to say this is all a blessing for Kim and Trigger. Last edited by ilovemyyorkie; 07-09-2005 at 06:40 PM.

07-09-2005, 06:38 PM	#44
txshopper73 Donating YT 14K Club Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 14,226 Blog Entries: 1	It wouldn't be hard to do. Henrietta is a small town. About 20 minutes from my home town. __________________ As always...JMO (Just My Opinion) Kimberley