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yorkieK9trainer · 04-13-2006, 01:29 PM

----princesspippi -----
If you're looking for a show prospect because you're still considered a green handler, but want to show, might I point you towards a young adult that already has ring experience that is for sale? Please go here and check HIM out!
http://wildbluecherry.hu

His name is Armani and he's at the bottom of the page.

txshopper73 · 04-13-2006, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkieRini

Oh and scratch the McDs Turkey Breast instead. I was lucky that Dice didn't have an explosion

, I am all about prevention.

ROFLMAO!!!! Oh, boy! That would have been HORRIBLE but a site to see!!!!!

feminvstr · 04-13-2006, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by yorkieK9trainer

----princesspippi -----
If you're looking for a show prospect because you're still considered a green handler, but want to show, might I point you towards a young adult that already has ring experience that is for sale? Please go here and check HIM out!
http://wildbluecherry.hu

His name is Armani and he's at the bottom of the page.

While this dog is very nice I would not suggest buying a dog that does not have his tail docked for the ring in the US. There is little change he would get finished, JMHO.

yorkieK9trainer · 04-13-2006, 01:51 PM

Feminvstr:

I agree, however the best thing for her is a correct dog (don't worry about the tail) and something that already has LOADS of ring experience. I think he's already a finished dog overseas and he's only like 14 or 16 months. This dog would be a great prospect for princess"..." to show under AKC regulations. He would grab the attention of the crowd and even the judges in her area. He's VERY correct and has ZERO health issues. Great dentition and a personality to boot. She is simply NOT going to find "this kind of dog" here in the US for the price she can buy him from Hungary. NOT gonna happen.
And he is AKC registerable.

YorkieRini · 04-13-2006, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by feminvstr

While this dog is very nice I would not suggest buying a dog that does not have his tail docked for the ring in the US. There is little change he would get finished, JMHO.

She could have his tail docked if she really wanted to go this route. Liza had a good expience docking a tail on an older pup.

YorkieRini · 04-13-2006, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by yorkiemom1970

Just break off the McD's in little pieces! LOL

No harm in rewarding them! Just wait til AFTER the show ! LOL

Well I did breakfast lunch dinner and treats..I was graced by a higher power. Thank God!! He wouldn't eat and I was worried about him..I wasn't prepared I was desperate..lolol..Maybe I'll use canned chicken breast as a back up instead..

feminvstr · 04-13-2006, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkieRini

She could have his tail docked if she really wanted to go this route. Liza had a good expience docking a tail on an older pup.

you could but this pup is over a year old and you could have problems, I just wouldnt suggest it...JMHO...

Trainer youre right the dog is very nice but why buy one that you possibly can't finish! I just wouldnt recommend doing that.

yorkieK9trainer · 04-13-2006, 02:01 PM

YorkiRini,
Yeah, my pup is coming in w/ a full tail. I may or may not need/want to get it docked. It isn't very long at all and I'll wait until she's closer to a year to decide how it fits in proportion to her body. In all honesty I'd be suprised if I didn't wind up docking it.

YorkieRini · 04-13-2006, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by feminvstr

you could but this pup is over a year old and you could have problems, I just wouldnt suggest it...JMHO...

Trainer youre right the dog is very nice but why buy one that you possibly can't finish! I just wouldnt recommend doing that.

well people are entilted to options and then they can decided what they feel most comfortable doing.

txshopper73 · 04-13-2006, 02:05 PM

Learning here...so if you get the tail docked at a later age, is it more painful for the dog?

YorkieRini · 04-13-2006, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by txshopper73

Learning here...so if you get the tail docked at a later age, is it more painful for the dog?

I'll let Liza explain it, she had first hand experience..

feminvstr · 04-13-2006, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkieRini

well people are entilted to options and then they can decided what they feel most comfortable doing.

youre absolutely right, yet why take the risk of anesthesia and perhaps an infection not to mention the pain a pup over a year old would have to endure.

princesspippi · 04-13-2006, 02:27 PM

I'm really interested, but I'm not even sure if my vet would dock it or not. Also I have another question. Should the dog's hair have more tan in it already, or is that just a puppy thing? It is a beautiful puppy. Has anyone had any dealings with Wild Blue Cherry? Thank you guys y'all are great!

yorkieK9trainer · 04-13-2006, 02:38 PM

"you could but this pup is over a year old and you could have problems, I just wouldnt suggest it...JMHO..."

What kind of problems could you possibly have w/ a proven dog? Proven as in the ring; health documentation and a solid temperment?? I don't understand. What are you saying?

Further, why buy a pup that you may not be able to finish? ISN'T THAT WHAT WE DO WHEN WE BUY "SHOW PROSPECT" PUPPIES? lol *duh*
However, this dog HAS been shown and successfully. He may not do well under an AKC judge because of his tail, but history shows it has happened. I think it'd happen more often too if more people had the cajones to put them in the ring! I don't like them myself, but I will still conceed that a structurally sound Yorkie is still sound w/ or w/o a tail!

Further-
As far as putting this dog under for surgery goes (to dock his tail) he is SAFER because of his weight. Anesthesia is a tricky thing no matter how you look at it, but if a preanesthetic blood panel is done before the surgery and the dogs weight is over 3 lbs, there are few complications! Not a big deal, really. And as far as the pain factor goes? I've had a handful of dogs (at least) that I've docked at an older age (various reasons) and in my experience the pain and aggrivation that they show is FAR less than a spay or neuter- which is deemed a "routine procedure". So what? Just because one is cosmetic and one isn't it's somehow better? Not in my opinion, they both can be painful and every dog is different and procedures vary (i.e. laser being better than blade for post surgery pain or sensitivity).

jm2c

I can see where you're coming from though and I still think this would be a good proposition for this novice.

txshopper73 · 04-13-2006, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by yorkieK9trainer

Further-
As far as putting this dog under for surgery goes (to dock his tail) he is SAFER because of his weight. Anesthesia is a tricky thing no matter how you look at it, but if a preanesthetic blood panel is done before the surgery and the dogs weight is over 3 lbs, there are few complications! Not a big deal, really. And as far as the pain factor goes? I've had a handful of dogs (at least) that I've docked at an older age (various reasons) and in my experience the pain and aggrivation that they show is FAR less than a spay or neuter- which is deemed a "routine procedure". So what? Just because one is cosmetic and one isn't it's somehow better? Not in my opinion, they both can be painful and every dog is different and procedures vary (i.e. laser being better than blade for post surgery pain or sensitivity).

Thanks for explaining this!

04-13-2006, 01:29 PM	#16
yorkieK9trainer YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: North eastern Illinois Suburbs Posts: 1,669	Did someone say "Show Prospect"?!? ----princesspippi ----- If you're looking for a show prospect because you're still considered a green handler, but want to show, might I point you towards a young adult that already has ring experience that is for sale? Please go here and check HIM out! http://wildbluecherry.hu His name is Armani and he's at the bottom of the page. __________________ "Big things come in small packages" http://www.myspace.com/yorkiek9trainer

04-13-2006, 01:51 PM	#19
yorkieK9trainer YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: North eastern Illinois Suburbs Posts: 1,669	Feminvstr: I agree, however the best thing for her is a correct dog (don't worry about the tail) and something that already has LOADS of ring experience. I think he's already a finished dog overseas and he's only like 14 or 16 months. This dog would be a great prospect for princess"..." to show under AKC regulations. He would grab the attention of the crowd and even the judges in her area. He's VERY correct and has ZERO health issues. Great dentition and a personality to boot. She is simply NOT going to find "this kind of dog" here in the US for the price she can buy him from Hungary. NOT gonna happen. And he is AKC registerable. __________________ "Big things come in small packages" http://www.myspace.com/yorkiek9trainer

04-13-2006, 02:01 PM	#23
yorkieK9trainer YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: North eastern Illinois Suburbs Posts: 1,669	YorkiRini, Yeah, my pup is coming in w/ a full tail. I may or may not need/want to get it docked. It isn't very long at all and I'll wait until she's closer to a year to decide how it fits in proportion to her body. In all honesty I'd be suprised if I didn't wind up docking it. __________________ "Big things come in small packages" http://www.myspace.com/yorkiek9trainer

04-13-2006, 02:05 PM	#25
txshopper73 Donating YT 14K Club Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 14,226 Blog Entries: 1	Learning here...so if you get the tail docked at a later age, is it more painful for the dog? __________________ As always...JMO (Just My Opinion) Kimberley

04-13-2006, 02:38 PM	#29
yorkieK9trainer YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: North eastern Illinois Suburbs Posts: 1,669	feminvstr "you could but this pup is over a year old and you could have problems, I just wouldnt suggest it...JMHO..." What kind of problems could you possibly have w/ a proven dog? Proven as in the ring; health documentation and a solid temperment?? I don't understand. What are you saying? Further, why buy a pup that you may not be able to finish? ISN'T THAT WHAT WE DO WHEN WE BUY "SHOW PROSPECT" PUPPIES? lol duh However, this dog HAS been shown and successfully. He may not do well under an AKC judge because of his tail, but history shows it has happened. I think it'd happen more often too if more people had the cajones to put them in the ring! I don't like them myself, but I will still conceed that a structurally sound Yorkie is still sound w/ or w/o a tail! Further- As far as putting this dog under for surgery goes (to dock his tail) he is SAFER because of his weight. Anesthesia is a tricky thing no matter how you look at it, but if a preanesthetic blood panel is done before the surgery and the dogs weight is over 3 lbs, there are few complications! Not a big deal, really. And as far as the pain factor goes? I've had a handful of dogs (at least) that I've docked at an older age (various reasons) and in my experience the pain and aggrivation that they show is FAR less than a spay or neuter- which is deemed a "routine procedure". So what? Just because one is cosmetic and one isn't it's somehow better? Not in my opinion, they both can be painful and every dog is different and procedures vary (i.e. laser being better than blade for post surgery pain or sensitivity). jm2c I can see where you're coming from though and I still think this would be a good proposition for this novice. __________________ "Big things come in small packages" http://www.myspace.com/yorkiek9trainer

04-13-2006, 02:27 PM	#28
princesspippi Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Arkansas Posts: 12	I'm really interested, but I'm not even sure if my vet would dock it or not. Also I have another question. Should the dog's hair have more tan in it already, or is that just a puppy thing? It is a beautiful puppy. Has anyone had any dealings with Wild Blue Cherry? Thank you guys y'all are great!