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balefirejr · 11-07-2015, 08:23 PM

i have found some breeder's here in my area but there puppie's arent what i am looking for i like yorkies with flatter heads and longer snout's thats what i prefer and the puppie's around her are have very short snout's

rhhh75572 · 11-07-2015, 08:44 PM

Do you have a picture of the type of head you like? That might help the members help you find a breeder you would like. I know the standard says:

"Small and rather flat on top, the skull not too prominent or round, the muzzle not too long, with the bite neither undershot nor overshot and teeth sound. Either scissors bite or level bite is acceptable. The nose is black. Eyes are medium in size and not too prominent; dark in color and sparkling with a sharp, intelligent expression."

I have, however, seen many Yorkshire Terriers at the show with muzzles longer than my girl's muzzle.

rhhh75572 · 11-07-2015, 08:49 PM

This is a picture of my girl's muzzle, or the best picture I could get.

bjh · 11-08-2015, 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by rhhh75572

This is a picture of my girl's muzzle, or the best picture I could get.

Your girl looks very nice. Who was her breeder? How old is she?

rhhh75572 · 11-08-2015, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by bjh

Your girl looks very nice. Who was her breeder? How old is she?

Thank you! I'm quite fond of her. Her breeder is Rosanne Fett and she is 20 months. She was only 16 months in this picture though.

swan · 11-08-2015, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by balefirejr

i have found some breeder's here in my area but there puppie's arent what i am looking for i like yorkies with flatter heads and longer snout's thats what i prefer and the puppie's around her are have very short snout's

That may be YOUR preferences but if you want a show dog then you want a dog as close to the breed standard as possible, not just YOUR standard.

Lorraine · 11-08-2015, 05:01 PM

To the original poster, go to dog shows and especially Yorkie Specialties. You will get a much better idea of what a show yorkie should look like especially those being campaigned and will often then be 2 - 4years old. You can talk to the handlers and breeders. There is a lot to learn about showing, grooming the show dog, the tons of money you will be spending to do all that not just the cost of the dog.
Discern whether this might actually be something you can do both stamina wise and moneywise. It is not in any way a cheap hobby. You will never make money off selling puppies to make up for what you drop in trying to get championships. Then there is the time for getting to handling classes and their costs getting to dog shows and their costs.
All that is a terrible waste of money if you are trying to show a dog that perhaps is not a show quality after all. Even when it is you have professional handlers you are competing with and very many years breeder/owner/handlers. It is not an easy road by any means.

GAOMariposa · 11-14-2015, 11:47 PM

Just putting in my two cents here. I lived in Mexico while I went to school. I spoke with this breeder on two seperate occasions, about 3 years apart. The first time I spoke with him, he was very rude. I told him my budget was about $1000, and he told me flat out that I should just save my money and buy a cheaper breed because I was not going to get a good quality Yorkie at that price. He was also very snobbish, telling me he was the only person importing Yorkies into Mexico. I thanked him for his time and ended the conversation.

Fast forward several years later and I spoke with another well known breeder who told me he had been going through a divorce at that time and it was not a good time to contact him then. So I decided to try him again.

This time, he sent me photos of a puppy and then was pressuring me on the phone to hurry up and decide within a few minutes of getting the pictures, because a celebrity wanted the puppy. I called him later and told him I did want the puppy, but they then the celebrity had alreayd bought it. So then he sends me photos for two other 12 week old puppies he had availabe. On the phone he told me that all his sending me photos and speaking to me on the phone better amount to something. Basically he was saying I needed to buy a dog from him, since he was "wasting" his time talking to me. The photos he sent me were of 4 week old puppies. I may not be a breeder, but I do know what 12 week old puppy is supposed to look like. There were way younger than that. Needless to say, I didn't call him back.

He was also willing to cut off the tail of a 12 week old puppy. According to him, he would take the baby to the vet and they would just snip it off then and there without anesthesia!

If he wasn't willing to spend a few minutes talking to me on the phone, as a potential buyer, I doubt he'll be a good mentor to someone who wants to get involved in the breeding world. I would run away from this person. And I too heard from a well known breeder that some of the dogs he was sending into the U.S. to new breeders were turning out to not be the best quality babies. Just wanted to share my own experience with this man.

misskate · 11-15-2015, 01:10 AM

Yes, I've found a lot of good pointers here, especially one concerning the breeders availability. You really do need caring persons to back you up and answer all your questions as you raise your dog. I have been very fortunate as my breeders assisted me in my first showings and were nearby when there were problems. We had a very good relationship and were more then generous with their time and care. Good luck.

11-07-2015, 08:44 PM	#32
rhhh75572 Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: New Braunfels Posts: 77	Do you have a picture of the type of head you like? That might help the members help you find a breeder you would like. I know the standard says: "Small and rather flat on top, the skull not too prominent or round, the muzzle not too long, with the bite neither undershot nor overshot and teeth sound. Either scissors bite or level bite is acceptable. The nose is black. Eyes are medium in size and not too prominent; dark in color and sparkling with a sharp, intelligent expression." I have, however, seen many Yorkshire Terriers at the show with muzzles longer than my girl's muzzle. __________________ Me and the gang

11-08-2015, 05:01 PM	#37
Lorraine Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Abbotsford, BC Posts: 2,060	To the original poster, go to dog shows and especially Yorkie Specialties. You will get a much better idea of what a show yorkie should look like especially those being campaigned and will often then be 2 - 4years old. You can talk to the handlers and breeders. There is a lot to learn about showing, grooming the show dog, the tons of money you will be spending to do all that not just the cost of the dog. Discern whether this might actually be something you can do both stamina wise and moneywise. It is not in any way a cheap hobby. You will never make money off selling puppies to make up for what you drop in trying to get championships. Then there is the time for getting to handling classes and their costs getting to dog shows and their costs. All that is a terrible waste of money if you are trying to show a dog that perhaps is not a show quality after all. Even when it is you have professional handlers you are competing with and very many years breeder/owner/handlers. It is not an easy road by any means. __________________ Lorraine www.loribenyorkies.com Canada

11-14-2015, 11:47 PM	#38
GAOMariposa YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: California Posts: 581	Just putting in my two cents here. I lived in Mexico while I went to school. I spoke with this breeder on two seperate occasions, about 3 years apart. The first time I spoke with him, he was very rude. I told him my budget was about $1000, and he told me flat out that I should just save my money and buy a cheaper breed because I was not going to get a good quality Yorkie at that price. He was also very snobbish, telling me he was the only person importing Yorkies into Mexico. I thanked him for his time and ended the conversation. Fast forward several years later and I spoke with another well known breeder who told me he had been going through a divorce at that time and it was not a good time to contact him then. So I decided to try him again. This time, he sent me photos of a puppy and then was pressuring me on the phone to hurry up and decide within a few minutes of getting the pictures, because a celebrity wanted the puppy. I called him later and told him I did want the puppy, but they then the celebrity had alreayd bought it. So then he sends me photos for two other 12 week old puppies he had availabe. On the phone he told me that all his sending me photos and speaking to me on the phone better amount to something. Basically he was saying I needed to buy a dog from him, since he was "wasting" his time talking to me. The photos he sent me were of 4 week old puppies. I may not be a breeder, but I do know what 12 week old puppy is supposed to look like. There were way younger than that. Needless to say, I didn't call him back. He was also willing to cut off the tail of a 12 week old puppy. According to him, he would take the baby to the vet and they would just snip it off then and there without anesthesia! If he wasn't willing to spend a few minutes talking to me on the phone, as a potential buyer, I doubt he'll be a good mentor to someone who wants to get involved in the breeding world. I would run away from this person. And I too heard from a well known breeder that some of the dogs he was sending into the U.S. to new breeders were turning out to not be the best quality babies. Just wanted to share my own experience with this man. __________________ Mommy to Itzel Mirai and new mommy to Olivia Ilse. http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2041766&id=28002407&l=fe7f758320

11-07-2015, 08:23 PM	#31
balefirejr Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: virginia Posts: 50	i have found some breeder's here in my area but there puppie's arent what i am looking for i like yorkies with flatter heads and longer snout's thats what i prefer and the puppie's around her are have very short snout's

11-15-2015, 01:10 AM	#39
misskate YT Addict Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: italy Posts: 263	Yes, I've found a lot of good pointers here, especially one concerning the breeders availability. You really do need caring persons to back you up and answer all your questions as you raise your dog. I have been very fortunate as my breeders assisted me in my first showings and were nearby when there were problems. We had a very good relationship and were more then generous with their time and care. Good luck.