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bellemarie · 03-22-2011, 07:03 PM

From my Kukis litter I am keeping my Poppet (the girl) and have been advised- because I would love to be involved in showing- that she should be show worthy! So from a few weeks old I was teaching her grooming manners and all was going well, not brilliant, but well... But for 4 days I didn't groom her (so I know I'm to blame) but now I can't for the life of me get her to stand; she thinks the brush is is the grim reapers sythe!!!! She also hasn't grasped any command for 'stand' 'stay' or even 'wait', though she's got 'sit' 'up' 'paw' and 'come' down to a fine art- but a lot of help those are!!
Any ideas? Even faint hunches?!? there is obviously no way I'll want to try to show her if she thinks she's gonna die every time I get out the brush; but with the yorkie ring so empty ATM here, and her being so lovely From amazing lines, I will try anything! She's only coming 11 weeks and hasn't been evaluated yet- but unless something goes drastically wrong with her conformation, I imagine I'll be told to at least try a few shows...
Please, any and all thoughts greatly appreciated!
And sorry if this should have been in the grooming sect! And apologies for the long winded expaination!

jennzy · 03-23-2011, 04:47 PM

hm...
have u tried to praise her if she does well????? and try grooming her after a play session. she'll be too tired to do anything. hehe
sorry I can't be much of help.... my pup's a show quality as well and luckily i put a deposit down on her b4 my breeder was 100% sure she'd be show quality so she's under pet contract

no so pressure. but coco stays still when i brush her hair. however the top knot on the other hand is painful.

mauirobin · 03-24-2011, 12:16 AM

Are you trying a clicker at all? And reward her for that half a sec that she does stay. Then when she stays for 2 secs...etc. Hard to get them to understand what they are doing right, if they are quick to move on. The clicker is quick & lets her know at that second, she was good. By the time you dig a treat out of your pocket, she can't understand what she did right...

I used em years ago, but really...a praise word works just as well, as long as it's a different tone than your regular speaking or training voice, & she knows when she hears it a treat is forthcoming.

Good luck! I am thinking about trying the show-rings myself down the road...lol. Going to a few coming up here in the near future first.

bellemarie · 03-24-2011, 03:56 AM

Hi, thanks!
We have gotten to 2secs of stay- she just decided yesterday to cooperate! But still won't let the brush anywhere near her...
I hold the treat in front of her behind my fingers held in place by my thumb, and when she has stayed I tell her 'good Pop' in a high voice and flatten my hand for her to have the treat... She's a fast learner when she gets started!!
With her training, hand signals is going to be just as important and verbal commands- my mum works in a school for auditory and visually impaired, and I want poppet to be a regular visitor- so they have to be able to get her to do it as well!
I've tried every type of brush and comb I can think of- always when her energies spent! She thinks it gonna kill her, even though I brush the others (some who love it, others who don't mind) in front of her, but she still panics when it's her turn! Any idea for different brushes? I was thinkin if getting her one of those ones for rabbits, that you put on tour finger- might get one of those later!
And oh how I'm dreading trying to do a topknot in the future, but her long coat might not make it that far!

Her momma was never this difficult, but she's a little simpler than pop!

bellemarie · 03-31-2011, 04:02 PM

Turns out, the grim reaper is allowed to brush her- as long as it brings the right treats!!! Her training treats is eukanuba small breed puppy food, and she loves it, but apparently it has to be Just the right softness for grooming to be acceptable! For everything else, she gets it dry, but when the brush comes out it has to be not too dry, but not to mushy- soaked but still firm!
A right wee goldilocks I'm dealing with here!!!!
Ingot her entire body done in one go tonight- and she couldn't care less!
But what a relief; maybe there Is hope after all! *yay*

Debyork2 · 04-25-2011, 08:24 PM

I think you just have to be firm with her-some of them can be little tyrants, she obviously isn't too scared of the brush or she wouldn't settle when given treats-they have to know that you are the boss and you don't need to be harsh to achieve this, always quit on a 'win' for you and don't let her misbehaving stop you grooming her or she has won the battle!

03-22-2011, 07:03 PM	#1
bellemarie YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: belfast, northern ireland Posts: 520	1st potential show dog! From my Kukis litter I am keeping my Poppet (the girl) and have been advised- because I would love to be involved in showing- that she should be show worthy! So from a few weeks old I was teaching her grooming manners and all was going well, not brilliant, but well... But for 4 days I didn't groom her (so I know I'm to blame) but now I can't for the life of me get her to stand; she thinks the brush is is the grim reapers sythe!!!! She also hasn't grasped any command for 'stand' 'stay' or even 'wait', though she's got 'sit' 'up' 'paw' and 'come' down to a fine art- but a lot of help those are!! Any ideas? Even faint hunches?!? there is obviously no way I'll want to try to show her if she thinks she's gonna die every time I get out the brush; but with the yorkie ring so empty ATM here, and her being so lovely From amazing lines, I will try anything! She's only coming 11 weeks and hasn't been evaluated yet- but unless something goes drastically wrong with her conformation, I imagine I'll be told to at least try a few shows... Please, any and all thoughts greatly appreciated! And sorry if this should have been in the grooming sect! And apologies for the long winded expaination! __________________ "...She will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of her heart; you owe it to her to be worthy of such devotion..."

03-23-2011, 04:47 PM	#2
jennzy YT 500 Club Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: TOronto, Canada Posts: 804	hm... have u tried to praise her if she does well????? and try grooming her after a play session. she'll be too tired to do anything. hehe sorry I can't be much of help.... my pup's a show quality as well and luckily i put a deposit down on her b4 my breeder was 100% sure she'd be show quality so she's under pet contract no so pressure. but coco stays still when i brush her hair. however the top knot on the other hand is painful. __________________ <Mickey & Coco>

03-24-2011, 12:16 AM	#3
mauirobin Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio, USA Posts: 224 Blog Entries: 3	Are you trying a clicker at all? And reward her for that half a sec that she does stay. Then when she stays for 2 secs...etc. Hard to get them to understand what they are doing right, if they are quick to move on. The clicker is quick & lets her know at that second, she was good. By the time you dig a treat out of your pocket, she can't understand what she did right... I used em years ago, but really...a praise word works just as well, as long as it's a different tone than your regular speaking or training voice, & she knows when she hears it a treat is forthcoming. Good luck! I am thinking about trying the show-rings myself down the road...lol. Going to a few coming up here in the near future first. __________________ Mom of Button's, Yogi, Mercedes & Jillian

03-24-2011, 03:56 AM	#4
bellemarie YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: belfast, northern ireland Posts: 520	Hi, thanks! We have gotten to 2secs of stay- she just decided yesterday to cooperate! But still won't let the brush anywhere near her... I hold the treat in front of her behind my fingers held in place by my thumb, and when she has stayed I tell her 'good Pop' in a high voice and flatten my hand for her to have the treat... She's a fast learner when she gets started!! With her training, hand signals is going to be just as important and verbal commands- my mum works in a school for auditory and visually impaired, and I want poppet to be a regular visitor- so they have to be able to get her to do it as well! I've tried every type of brush and comb I can think of- always when her energies spent! She thinks it gonna kill her, even though I brush the others (some who love it, others who don't mind) in front of her, but she still panics when it's her turn! Any idea for different brushes? I was thinkin if getting her one of those ones for rabbits, that you put on tour finger- might get one of those later! And oh how I'm dreading trying to do a topknot in the future, but her long coat might not make it that far! Her momma was never this difficult, but she's a little simpler than pop! __________________ "...She will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of her heart; you owe it to her to be worthy of such devotion..."

03-31-2011, 04:02 PM	#5
bellemarie YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: belfast, northern ireland Posts: 520	Anything is possible with the right treats!! Turns out, the grim reaper is allowed to brush her- as long as it brings the right treats!!! Her training treats is eukanuba small breed puppy food, and she loves it, but apparently it has to be Just the right softness for grooming to be acceptable! For everything else, she gets it dry, but when the brush comes out it has to be not too dry, but not to mushy- soaked but still firm! A right wee goldilocks I'm dealing with here!!!! Ingot her entire body done in one go tonight- and she couldn't care less! But what a relief; maybe there Is hope after all! yay __________________ "...She will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of her heart; you owe it to her to be worthy of such devotion..."

04-25-2011, 08:24 PM	#6
Debyork2 Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cairns Qld Australia Posts: 20	I think you just have to be firm with her-some of them can be little tyrants, she obviously isn't too scared of the brush or she wouldn't settle when given treats-they have to know that you are the boss and you don't need to be harsh to achieve this, always quit on a 'win' for you and don't let her misbehaving stop you grooming her or she has won the battle!