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(Your knowledge of genes and the passing of a colour which has never been recognised in the last 100+ years to be a true colour for a Yorkie, would only lead a person to believe there has indeed been an introduction of a colour (white) in recent years into the modern Yorkie. However, the colours you discuss here were indeed in the ancestry of the Yorkie with the English Black & Tan, which has been written in breed books on this dog)(To constantly refer to a Maltese as being the hidden gene which has miraculously appeared after years and years of breeding true to breed conformation colours lacks foundation. What seems missing here is the fact that once a standard has been established, for 100+ years there comes along a nice little almost all white dog with a black saddle, looking like a Shid-Tzu with a Yorkie head, an all white, all brown, all black- does not meet conformation. What is the point therefore in having a breed standard for any dog if people are just going to assume "Hey lets make all the colours of the rainbow and call them a pure bred true Yorkshire, why don't we just stop registering our dogs with a registry and register with any Tom, Dick or Harry Club, like they have done in Germany with the Biewer and that way no one will be able to tell what we put in our dogs to get those colours")A little long winded, but debate is open.:aimeeyork |
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I cannot see why any responsible breeder would want to send frozen sperm over to the UK or any other country for that matter, to have it popped into a nice pure bred little traditional Yorkie, in the hope of getting a nice little white dog with a black saddle. a) Where will these poor little fellas end up? On the Dog Lovers registry, Pet Lovers registry, two un recognised registries, where puppy mill BYB's register there poor little ill bred dogs, who live their lives out in cages breeding litter after litter, who can't even walk after 6 years of continuous breeding. We have lots of unwanted little Yorkie sitting miserably in pounds, unwanted and unloved. b) In the hope of getting them registered with the UKKC, that will never happen. You need to show both Sire and Dam pedigrees, before pups can be registered in this Country. What are they going to say, Oh sorry the dog lives in the States, just the sperm lives here in the UK. Nop that won't work, perhaps they could lie and try to pass it on to another UK dogs pedigree and bingo we have Tri's, then bingo next litter we have Parti, nop we don't register parti's. Oh well perhaps we will say they are blue & tan, for a few years and then bang! Hay presto, there will be soo many white dogs with back saddles, they will be forced to recognise the parti colour. Well isn't that what happened in the states. We will just have to wait and see, but I might take a guess the UKKc would revoke a persons pedigree should that ever be found to be the case, as Fraud. We already have nice little white cross Yorkie in the UK, they are called Yorktese, Morkie, Yorkstie, Teady bears, etc etc etc, they sit in dog shelters too, waiting for a loving home. Havn't we got enough non standard dogs, unloved, uncared for, exploited as "Rare", only difference in the UK, a person can be sued for selling a dog as something it is not. Whatever, happened to responsible breeding! :aimeeyork |
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No you can't. Frankly, they wouldn't look like the same breed. Maybe a white dobie is more your style sir? Chesty P wouldn't approve of a white bulldog either. Would he Steve? |
I know, and believe in the standard as it is writting. Not into white Dobes, and we both agree with Lt Gen Puller on the Bulldog. |
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Acceptable colors are black, lighter and darker shades of gray, lighter and darker shades of fawn, and red. Brindling is allowed on all of these colors. Solid fawn and red, including lighter and darker shades, have a black or gray mask. The mask does not go beyond the eyes. There may be a white patch on the chest, throat, chin, backs of the pasterns, and on the toes. Disqualification: Any color with tan pattern markings as seen in black-and-tan breeds. |
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He is neutered, that that disqualify the big guy? If so, he will get over it, and in his heart know he is a true corso and a winner regardless. |
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I am a little confused as to why you yourself on your bandwagon of pure breds, when you wanted and didn't you buy a mixed bred BTCA Biewer ? You say you have all those little mixes just sitting in the UK shelters that look just like them. So, WHY didn't you get one of those out of the shelter if you believe there is no difference ??? Are you not yourself exploiting a "Rare" dog if there is not many of them in the UK ? |
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You could always buy him a set of those fake ones :p Neuticles.com |
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I am afraid Carlo's show time has past. He is enjoying life playing 2nd fiddle to Maxine. |
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It wouldn't do them any good- they're only for show :rolleyes: |
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You going to jeep beating this like a rented mule? It is not going to change. You, are not hoing to change the Torkie Breed Standard. Start breeding to standard, and keep a Parti for pet. |
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I am not "jeeping" anything, and certainly dont plan on "hoing" the "Torkie" Standard. Where in this thread have I even asked or said to change the standard? My parti yorkies are my pets and yes I am passionate about them when people come on Yt and put them down. AS i said feel free to start your own Cane corso thread.:D |
I really like the Cane Corso! I knew a guy that has them and has had them a long time! They are very pretty! He had his tattooed on his leg! It was a GREAT tat! And yes, I'm talking Cane Corso's on THIS thread LOL... |
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Go ahead and talk Cane Corsos. I would too if I knew the first thing about them. Just add them to the mix of all the other breeds mentioned in this thread. Let's see....we've had Paisley, Clydesdale, Yorkshire, Skye and Waterside Terriers, Maltese and didn't someone mention white Dobies? I'm sure I forgot a few. Oh, yeah...wolf hybrids was one. This thread ceased to be about the OP long ago...and maybe that's not a bad thing. |
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No one put them down. All they are saying is that they do not meet the standard. So simple, why even I understand it. I am glad to know now that you are my official spell checker. Perhaps I can send you my draft before I hit the submit button. |
Cane Corso (Italian Mastiff, Corso dog) As you can see from the temperment, they may have had a bit of Yorkie mixed in years ago. After researchoing the Corso well before I bought one, and having the beast Carlo for almost 11 years, I do know a bit about them. They are the best, and almost as good as having a Standard Bred Yorkie. One of each is the best of both worlds. We will always have a Yorkie, but perhaps just one more Cane Corso. They need an active, and I do mean active owner when they are young. Me, well, I am not so young anymore. |
A white dobie sound odd to you? A standard is a standard. Anything else is the same in every breed. |
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Was his tat a Cane Corso? Think they're called Corso's? |
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My older brother has a Rhodesian Ridgeback that is from working lines. She's about 115 pounds and man, that is one strong dog! My brother has an artificial hip and knee so I have to go over once in a while to let her chase me around and wrestle. Love the big dogs!! WOOF WOOF :thumbup: |
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They're allowed more white in that standard than a yorkie. People sell them. I don't think people question if it's a doberman. |
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I have been around a lot of large Mastiff breeds, and I can say with honesty, while Carlo is not the biggest, I have never had or seen a stronger one. Almost 11, battled Cancer, he can still jump a 5 foot feence, walk for miles, run, play, and obey. His best quality is protecting Maxine when she goes outside as we back up to a forrest preserve. You can't put a value on that. |
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THanls so much Lisa. We are blessed to have 2 such wonderful pets. Have a great school year. Your students are lucky to have you. My best to Jack. |
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Everyone I talk to says both words when they talk about them. They are a big canine, aren't they? |
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