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jencar98 02-17-2010 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 3006771)
My Gosh it was some late night program....doing a little remote control flipping....and it caught my attention.

OK! Did a google search; it was on HBO and originally aired in 2007. Don't know if they plan to air it again soon.


Thanks Mary! Dang....I just knew it would be an HBO thing...and I don't want to pay for anymore cable fees:rolleyes:

Stryker 02-17-2010 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 3006771)
My Gosh it was some late night program....doing a little remote control flipping....and it caught my attention.

OK! Did a google search; it was on HBO and originally aired in 2007. Don't know if they plan to air it again soon.

I Am an Animal: The Story of Ingrid Newkirk and PETA, The dvd can be ordered on Amazon.

I am a News Junkie
a History Junkie
and a Research Junkie.
if it's out there I will find it...LOL
Definitely have my nerdy side......:rolleyes:

bchgirl 02-17-2010 11:48 AM

PETA is, indeed, against the breeding of dogs. Any dog.

PETA Media Center > Recent News Releases : PETA Erects Tombstones to Protest Westminster Dog Show's Contribution to Shelter Dog Deaths

PETA Erects Tombstones to Protest Westminster Dog Show's Contribution to Shelter Dog Deaths

Grim Reaper Confronts Purebred Dog Enthusiasts With Grim Reality

For Immediate Release:
February 12, 2010

Contact:
Virginia Fort 757-622-7382

New York -- Beneath a banner reading, "Every Dog Bred Means Another Dog Dead," PETA supporters will set up a "graveyard" with 40 tombstones--one to represent every 100,000 animals killed in animal shelters each year because of a lack of good homes--outside Madison Square Garden.

When: Monday, February 15, 12 noon

Where: Westminster Dog Show, Madison Square Garden, west side of Seventh Avenue at 32nd Street

"When people buy a dog or cat from a breeder or pet store, they are subsidizing more breeding and at the same time denying a homeless animal in a shelter the chance to find a home," says PETA Vice President Daphna Nachminovitch. "Because animal shelters are so severely crowded, people who buy animals instead of rescuing them give shelters no choice but to euthanize healthy, loving animals."

Each year, U.S. animal shelters take in an estimated 8 million animals--mostly dogs and cats. Half of them must be euthanized for lack of a good home.


If you wish to learn about Ingrid Newkirk...simply google her name and the word interview.


I will admit the info on their animal adoptions has always confused me, as PETA is located here and there is no PETA run shelter nor a shelter located at their facility. If one wants to have their animal euthanized free of charge...that is a service they offer.

Stryker 02-17-2010 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bchgirl (Post 3006793)
PETA is, indeed, against the breeding of dogs. Any dog.

PETA Media Center > Recent News Releases : PETA Erects Tombstones to Protest Westminster Dog Show's Contribution to Shelter Dog Deaths

PETA Erects Tombstones to Protest Westminster Dog Show's Contribution to Shelter Dog Deaths

Grim Reaper Confronts Purebred Dog Enthusiasts With Grim Reality

For Immediate Release:
February 12, 2010

Contact:
Virginia Fort 757-622-7382

New York -- Beneath a banner reading, "Every Dog Bred Means Another Dog Dead," PETA supporters will set up a "graveyard" with 40 tombstones--one to represent every 100,000 animals killed in animal shelters each year because of a lack of good homes--outside Madison Square Garden.

When: Monday, February 15, 12 noon

Where: Westminster Dog Show, Madison Square Garden, west side of Seventh Avenue at 32nd Street

"When people buy a dog or cat from a breeder or pet store, they are subsidizing more breeding and at the same time denying a homeless animal in a shelter the chance to find a home," says PETA Vice President Daphna Nachminovitch. "Because animal shelters are so severely crowded, people who buy animals instead of rescuing them give shelters no choice but to euthanize healthy, loving animals."

Each year, U.S. animal shelters take in an estimated 8 million animals--mostly dogs and cats. Half of them must be euthanized for lack of a good home.


If you wish to learn about Ingrid Newkirk...simply google her name and the word interview.

I will admit the info on their animal adoptions has always confused me, as PETA is located here and there is no PETA run shelter nor a shelter located at their facility. If one wants to have their animal euthanized free of charge...that is a service they offer.

The last sentence of this post hurt my heart and brought tears to my eyes! I don't even know what to say................:(

Mardelin 02-17-2010 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jencar98 (Post 3006783)
Thanks Mary! Dang....I just knew it would be an HBO thing...and I don't want to pay for anymore cable fees:rolleyes:

HBO: I Am An Animal: Home

You can order the video.

Mardelin 02-17-2010 11:56 AM

February 17, 2010
Check out these two articles regarding the animal rights protest at Westminster Dog Show last night. If the links won't work right now, it's probably due to the large number of hits. Keep trying.

Scottie Sadie wins Westminster after PETA protest - Yahoo! News
Click on the SLIDE SHOW LINK directly under the picture of the animal rights extremist for many more pictures including the two demonstrators holding their signs up in the middle of the show ring during Best In Show saying: "Breeders Kill Shelter Dogs" and "Mutts Rule."

A second article can be found at:
Sadie the Scottie wins Westminster after protest - More Sports - SI.com

The national legislative agenda of these radical zealots is to end all dog and cat breeding and ultimately all dog and cat shows. Eventually all pet breeding and pet ownership. They'll say anything and do anything to achieve their agenda. Less than 7% of animals in shelters are purebreds. True animal lovers don't let their friends donate to HSUS, PETA, ASPCA, Animal Legal Defense Fund and Texas Humane Legislation Network. Donate to your local animal shelters and Responsible Pet Owners Alliance!

livingdustmops 02-17-2010 11:58 AM

Until people fully understand what Animal Welfare organizations are and why they go after AKC then this heated debate will go on and on. Everyone can point fingers at PETA but please show me where AKC protects the dogs. I believe PETA has done more to help end animal misery than AKC has ever done..

AKCMission Statement 
THE AMERICAN KENNEL CLUB IS DEDICATED TO UPHOLDING THE
INTEGRITY OF ITS REGISTRY, PROMOTING THE SPORT OF PUREBRED
DOGS AND BREEDING FOR TYPE AND FUNCTION. FOUNDED IN 1884,
THE AKC AND ITS AFFILIATED ORGANIZATIONS ADVOCATE FOR THE
PUREBRED DOG AS A FAMILY COMPANION, ADVANCE CANINE HEALTH
AND WELL-BEING, WORK TO PROTECT THE RIGHTS OF ALL DOG
OWNERS AND PROMOTE RESPONSIBLE DOG OWNERSHIP.


AKC also spends huge sums on $$$ on lobbyists...just go to their website to see all the legislation they are fighting ... = more puppies being born but protecting all breeders at all costs.

AKC is the biggest supporter of puppymills by allowing registrations = more puppies being born and more being euthanized

http://www.akc.org/pdfs/about/specia...VBC_finalA.pdf

http://images.akc.org/pdf/2008_annual_report.pdf
In 2007 $6,584 in registration revenue In 2008 $10, 162

American Kennel Club - July 2007 Chairman's Report

Chairman’s Report
July 2007
A myriad of challenges and responsibilities face your Board of Directors and management everyday. Maintain a registry with the highest integrity so necessary to AKC breeders. Support and supervise the nearly 20,000 AKC approved events held every year. Lead the fight for improving the health and welfare of our dogs. Provide support and leadership in combating ill-conceived legislation which negatively affects our sport and our dogs.
To accomplish these goals it is necessary to have a modern and efficient organization. Our annual budget of over 65 million dollars requires careful attention. As I have said before, our not-for-profit organization is not a business, but it must run in a business-like manner.
All of our efforts to direct and grow the sport of purebred dogs are only possible if we generate the funds to support it.
For many years the income from registrations paid for almost the entire budget of AKC. That has changed dramatically. In 1981 registration revenues accounted for 96% of AKC’s revenue. By 2006 that figure had dropped to less than 50%.
In 1946 we registered slightly over 200,000 dogs. We peaked in 1992 with just over one and one half million. In 2006 we registered 870,192.
We estimate that perhaps 20% of the dogs registered become involved in the sport. From that figure it is easy to understand that the registration dollars from those who did not involve themselves in the sport contributed mightily to support those that did.
With a decreasing registration it is becoming apparent that not only must the Board and management develop new sources of income, but also that the sport itself must be prepared to contribute more to participate.
It is possible to analyze our revenues by placing them in three groups: 1) Core revenue from the sport, 2) Core revenue not sport-generated, and 3) Alternative revenue. Core revenue, both sport and non-sport, is generated from AKC programs and services, such as registration, event and recording fees, magazine subscriptions, and pedigree sales, etc. Alternative revenues include sponsorships, licensed products and credit card royalties.
While the great bulk of our annual budget expenditures are directed to the sport, we estimate that only 25% of our income is generated as “Core Income from the Sport.”
Our reality is that the sport must share a larger portion of the costs of our sport. We must continue to address our declining registration problem. We must aggressively pursue alternative revenues. At the same time we must continue to be severely disciplined in our expenditures.
When we achieve new alternative revenue, it is with the realization that this type of revenue is always less certain on a continuing basis than core generated income. What sells today may not sell tomorrow.
I have shared with you these thoughts and figures because to understand what AKC is capable of doing one must appreciate the bottom line of our budget. Both the Board and management are optimistic that AKC has a bright future firmly committed to our tradition and goals and supported by a strong financial position.

I say, clean up AKC and maybe I could believe they (breeders) really do care about the millions of animals euthanized every year.

Stryker 02-17-2010 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 3006807)
February 17, 2010
Check out these two articles regarding the animal rights protest at Westminster Dog Show last night. If the links won't work right now, it's probably due to the large number of hits. Keep trying.

Scottie Sadie wins Westminster after PETA protest - Yahoo! News
Click on the SLIDE SHOW LINK directly under the picture of the animal rights extremist for many more pictures including the two demonstrators holding their signs up in the middle of the show ring during Best In Show saying: "Breeders Kill Shelter Dogs" and "Mutts Rule."

A second article can be found at:
Sadie the Scottie wins Westminster after protest - More Sports - SI.com

The national legislative agenda of these radical zealots is to end all dog and cat breeding and ultimately all dog and cat shows. Eventually all pet breeding and pet ownership. They'll say anything and do anything to achieve their agenda. Less than 7% of animals in shelters are purebreds. True animal lovers don't let their friends donate to HSUS, PETA, ASPCA, Animal Legal Defense Fund and Texas Humane Legislation Network. Donate to your local animal shelters and Responsible Pet Owners Alliance!

Thank you for the links and for the information. THIS is how I form my opinions on where I place my support. By reading and researching the facts. The legislation you talked about in an earlier post is concerning. I can assure you that I will be contacting local and state representatives in order to determine their positions on these issues. Very Concerning!:mad:

Mardelin 02-17-2010 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by livingdustmops (Post 3006811)
Until people fully understand what Animal Welfare organizations are and why they go after AKC then this heated debate will go on and on. Everyone can point fingers at PETA but please show me where AKC protects the dogs. I believe PETA has done more to help end animal misery than AKC has ever done..

AKCMission Statement 
THE AMERICAN KENNEL CLUB IS DEDICATED TO UPHOLDING THE
INTEGRITY OF ITS REGISTRY, PROMOTING THE SPORT OF PUREBRED
DOGS AND BREEDING FOR TYPE AND FUNCTION. FOUNDED IN 1884,
THE AKC AND ITS AFFILIATED ORGANIZATIONS ADVOCATE FOR THE
PUREBRED DOG AS A FAMILY COMPANION, ADVANCE CANINE HEALTH
AND WELL-BEING, WORK TO PROTECT THE RIGHTS OF ALL DOG
OWNERS AND PROMOTE RESPONSIBLE DOG OWNERSHIP.


AKC also spends huge sums on $$$ on lobbyists...just go to their website to see all the legislation they are fighting ... = more puppies being born but protecting all breeders at all costs.

AKC is the biggest supporter of puppymills by allowing registrations = more puppies being born and more being euthanized

http://www.akc.org/pdfs/about/specia...VBC_finalA.pdf

http://images.akc.org/pdf/2008_annual_report.pdf
In 2007 $6,584 in registration revenue In 2008 $10, 162

American Kennel Club - July 2007 Chairman's Report

Chairman’s Report
July 2007
A myriad of challenges and responsibilities face your Board of Directors and management everyday. Maintain a registry with the highest integrity so necessary to AKC breeders. Support and supervise the nearly 20,000 AKC approved events held every year. Lead the fight for improving the health and welfare of our dogs. Provide support and leadership in combating ill-conceived legislation which negatively affects our sport and our dogs.
To accomplish these goals it is necessary to have a modern and efficient organization. Our annual budget of over 65 million dollars requires careful attention. As I have said before, our not-for-profit organization is not a business, but it must run in a business-like manner.
All of our efforts to direct and grow the sport of purebred dogs are only possible if we generate the funds to support it.
For many years the income from registrations paid for almost the entire budget of AKC. That has changed dramatically. In 1981 registration revenues accounted for 96% of AKC’s revenue. By 2006 that figure had dropped to less than 50%.
In 1946 we registered slightly over 200,000 dogs. We peaked in 1992 with just over one and one half million. In 2006 we registered 870,192.
We estimate that perhaps 20% of the dogs registered become involved in the sport. From that figure it is easy to understand that the registration dollars from those who did not involve themselves in the sport contributed mightily to support those that did.
With a decreasing registration it is becoming apparent that not only must the Board and management develop new sources of income, but also that the sport itself must be prepared to contribute more to participate.
It is possible to analyze our revenues by placing them in three groups: 1) Core revenue from the sport, 2) Core revenue not sport-generated, and 3) Alternative revenue. Core revenue, both sport and non-sport, is generated from AKC programs and services, such as registration, event and recording fees, magazine subscriptions, and pedigree sales, etc. Alternative revenues include sponsorships, licensed products and credit card royalties.
While the great bulk of our annual budget expenditures are directed to the sport, we estimate that only 25% of our income is generated as “Core Income from the Sport.”
Our reality is that the sport must share a larger portion of the costs of our sport. We must continue to address our declining registration problem. We must aggressively pursue alternative revenues. At the same time we must continue to be severely disciplined in our expenditures.
When we achieve new alternative revenue, it is with the realization that this type of revenue is always less certain on a continuing basis than core generated income. What sells today may not sell tomorrow.
I have shared with you these thoughts and figures because to understand what AKC is capable of doing one must appreciate the bottom line of our budget. Both the Board and management are optimistic that AKC has a bright future firmly committed to our tradition and goals and supported by a strong financial position.

I say, clean up AKC and maybe I could believe they (breeders) really do care about the millions of animals euthanized every year.

There is bad and good in every orginization....However, AKC is not attempting to take away my rights as a Pet Owner & exhibitor/breeder. PETA and other Animal Rights orginizations are.

Mardelin 02-17-2010 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stryker (Post 3006819)
Thank you for the links and for the information. THIS is how I form my opinions on where I place my support. By reading and researching the facts. The legislation you talked about in an earlier post is concerning. I can assure you that I will be contacting local and state representatives in order to determine their positions on these issues. Very Concerning!:mad:

Contact Janice Watts, I'm not sure but, she may be a member of the Houston Yorkie Club. She's the YTCA focal point for national pet legislations and actively involved in Texas legislation.

It's good to see all viewpoints and decide for yourself. I for one don't want my rights to own a pet taken away......

Stryker 02-17-2010 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by livingdustmops (Post 3006811)
Until people fully understand what Animal Welfare organizations are and why they go after AKC then this heated debate will go on and on. Everyone can point fingers at PETA but please show me where AKC protects the dogs. I believe PETA has done more to help end animal misery than AKC has ever done.. AKCMission Statement  THE AMERICAN KENNEL CLUB IS DEDICATED TO UPHOLDING THE INTEGRITY OF ITS REGISTRY, PROMOTING THE SPORT OF PUREBRED DOGS AND BREEDING FOR TYPE AND FUNCTION. FOUNDED IN 1884, THE AKC AND ITS AFFILIATED ORGANIZATIONS ADVOCATE FOR THE PUREBRED DOG AS A FAMILY COMPANION, ADVANCE CANINE HEALTH AND WELL-BEING, WORK TO PROTECT THE RIGHTS OF ALL DOG OWNERS AND PROMOTE RESPONSIBLE DOG OWNERSHIP. AKC also spends huge sums on $$$ on lobbyists...just go to their website to see all the legislation they are fighting ... = more puppies being born but protecting all breeders at all costs. AKC is the biggest supporter of puppymills by allowing registrations = more puppies being born and more being euthanized http://www.akc.org/pdfs/about/specia...VBC_finalA.pdf http://images.akc.org/pdf/2008_annual_report.pdf In 2007 $6,584 in registration revenue In 2008 $10, 162 American Kennel Club - July 2007 Chairman's Report Chairman’s Report July 2007 A myriad of challenges and responsibilities face your Board of Directors and management everyday. Maintain a registry with the highest integrity so necessary to AKC breeders. Support and supervise the nearly 20,000 AKC approved events held every year. Lead the fight for improving the health and welfare of our dogs. Provide support and leadership in combating ill-conceived legislation which negatively affects our sport and our dogs. To accomplish these goals it is necessary to have a modern and efficient organization. Our annual budget of over 65 million dollars requires careful attention. As I have said before, our not-for-profit organization is not a business, but it must run in a business-like manner. All of our efforts to direct and grow the sport of purebred dogs are only possible if we generate the funds to support it. For many years the income from registrations paid for almost the entire budget of AKC. That has changed dramatically. In 1981 registration revenues accounted for 96% of AKC’s revenue. By 2006 that figure had dropped to less than 50%. In 1946 we registered slightly over 200,000 dogs. We peaked in 1992 with just over one and one half million. In 2006 we registered 870,192. We estimate that perhaps 20% of the dogs registered become involved in the sport. From that figure it is easy to understand that the registration dollars from those who did not involve themselves in the sport contributed mightily to support those that did. With a decreasing registration it is becoming apparent that not only must the Board and management develop new sources of income, but also that the sport itself must be prepared to contribute more to participate. It is possible to analyze our revenues by placing them in three groups: 1) Core revenue from the sport, 2) Core revenue not sport-generated, and 3) Alternative revenue. Core revenue, both sport and non-sport, is generated from AKC programs and services, such as registration, event and recording fees, magazine subscriptions, and pedigree sales, etc. Alternative revenues include sponsorships, licensed products and credit card royalties. While the great bulk of our annual budget expenditures are directed to the sport, we estimate that only 25% of our income is generated as “Core Income from the Sport.” Our reality is that the sport must share a larger portion of the costs of our sport. We must continue to address our declining registration problem. We must aggressively pursue alternative revenues. At the same time we must continue to be severely disciplined in our expenditures. When we achieve new alternative revenue, it is with the realization that this type of revenue is always less certain on a continuing basis than core generated income. What sells today may not sell tomorrow. I have shared with you these thoughts and figures because to understand what AKC is capable of doing one must appreciate the bottom line of our budget. Both the Board and management are optimistic that AKC has a bright future firmly committed to our tradition and goals and supported by a strong financial position. I say, clean up AKC and maybe I could believe they (breeders) really do care about the millions of animals euthanized every year.

If PETA had their way those beautiful Beiwers and Yorkies you so lovingly rescue would be takin in and EUTHANIZED.....Not spayed and neutered then placed in loving homes......DEAD! So whats your point?

livingdustmops 02-17-2010 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 3006820)
There is bad and good in every orginization....However, AKC is not attempting to take away my rights as a Pet Owner & exhibitor/breeder. PETA and other Animal Rights orginizations are.

And that is exactly what Ann, Kim and myself feel about PETA...good and bad in every organization.

You are right AKC is not trying to take away your rights as a breeder...but how many animals have to die before we do start taking away some rights and AKC has to shoulder some of the blame for this mass killing of animals because they issue registrations to volume breeders. They do this for revenue so dog shows can go on.

Why do you (any breeder) have the right to help kill millions of animals a year...when will the breeders say enough is enough. When will breeders come forward and stop protecting breeders who are cruel and inhuman to their dogs...AKC won't (•The standard penalty for anyone convicted of animal cruelty involving dogs is a 10-year suspension and a $2,000 fine). Big deal.

Why can't AKC and breeders figure out a way to help these animals instead of letting the majority of breeders just make $$$ off of these animals. I see AKC writing they care but I certainly don't see their actions doing anything to help the animals.


New Hampshire House Bill 1624, which seeks to impose many unreasonable and unnecessary restrictions on responsible dog breeders and owners, will be considered by the House Environment and Agriculture Committee on Thursday, January 21. The American Kennel Club and our New Hampshire federation, the Dog Owners of the Granite State, both oppose this measure as it is currently written. We encourage all responsible dog breeders and owners in New Hampshire to contact their elected representative and the committee members listed below. Respectfully urge them to not move this bill out of committee without significant amendments.
The American Kennel Club strongly supports humane treatment of dogs, including an adequate and nutritious diet, clean water, clean living conditions, regular veterinary care, kind and responsive human companionship, and training in appropriate behavior. The AKC also supports reasonable and enforceable laws that protect the welfare and health of purebred dogs and do not restrict the rights of breeders and owners who take their responsibilities seriously.
The AKC opposes several provisions in the current bill, including:
• Limiting any person from owning more than 50 intact dogs over the age of four months. The AKC believes that numerical limits do not address potential underlying issues of responsible ownership and proper dog care.
• Requiring any person having more than 10 intact dogs over four months of age to provide specific care and condition requirements; and abide by existing state operation standards for pet shops and animal shelters. This limits owners from breeding females in consecutive heat cycles, and from breeding any dog that is younger than one year of age, without allowing owners and veterinarians to determine what is best for dogs. Additionally, qualifying breeders who keep dogs inside their private homes will be unreasonably forced to incorporate into their homes the costly building standards that pet shops and animal shelters are required to use.
• Mandating that all debarking, tail docking, and surgical births be done by a licensed veterinarian and with anesthesia. The bill defines “tail docking” as the docking, cutting off, causing, or procuring the docking or cutting off of the tail of a dog over five days old. However, a six-day-old puppy would not be able to endure the anesthesia required by this bill. A workable alternative would leave the decisions regarding the best care to a treating veterinarian.
• Authorizing any duly appointed agent of any humane society, SPCA incorporated in the state, or animal control officer, on the Agriculture Commissioner’s initiative or pursuant to complaints, to investigate possible violations. This may effectively deputize individuals not trained or sworn in as public officers, and allow them to enter and seize private property.

Stryker 02-17-2010 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 3006827)
Contact Janice Watts, I'm not sure but, she may be a member of the Houston Yorkie Club. She's the YTCA focal point for national pet legislations and actively involved in Texas legislation.

It's good to see all viewpoints and decide for yourself. I for one don't want my rights to own a pet taken away......

I just met Janice at the New Yorker hotel, she is in our club. I found out from Barbara Gillis when I got home. I will definately be discussing this with her. Thanks Mary

livingdustmops 02-17-2010 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stryker (Post 3006839)
If PETA had their way those beautiful Beiwers and Yorkies you so lovingly rescue would be takin in and EUTHANIZED.....Not spayed and neutered then placed in loving homes......DEAD! So whats your point?

Shaking my head....PETA is not a rescue...they are animal welfare...they are needed because of the cruel acts that go on in this world and no one does anything because of $$$ or self serving interest..

So does this mean you support dog fur from China?
Animal testing for hairspay ? cosmetics?
The list could go on and on...

Or do you just care about your dogs and the show world?

I bring all of this up because if you are against PETA then you need to be against AKC because all they do is bury the misery that is brought on by some of their actions in the dogs world. They are not clean either...

livingdustmops 02-17-2010 12:27 PM

People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA), with more than 2 million members and supporters, is the largest animal rights organization in the world.

PETA focuses its attention on the four areas in which the largest numbers of animals suffer the most intensely for the longest periods of time: on factory farms, in laboratories, in the clothing trade, and in the entertainment industry. We also work on a variety of other issues, including the cruel killing of beavers, birds and other "pests," and the abuse of backyard dogs.

PETA works through public education, cruelty investigations, research, animal rescue, legislation, special events, celebrity involvement, and protest campaigns.


I am against animals suffering for anyone and I believe BREEDERS have to be the ones to step up in this country and fix how broken our system is...or most breeders are really farmers just producing their yearly crop.

I don't think anyone can turn a blind eye to what is going on in this country...Help to fix the problem instead of pointing fingers.


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