Originally Posted by mommadog1 (Post 3103159)

Ok this just sucks! The lady who adopted Mindy is returning her, or rather I have to go get her. But it turns out Mindy is biting at almost every man she see's and has actually now not only broken skin but kept some of his flesh.

And this is happening while on potty walks so it has appeared to have gotten worse. She wasn't biting any men here any more, we thought we had it trained out of her for the most part, other than being jumpy with them.

I don't know what to do, I have done everything I can for Mindy. I am looking for a rescue to take her that can work with her further, so far they all say the same thing, NO! They cannot help a dog like that.

I am sick over the whole thing to the point it made me vomit I was so upset. Right now my gut feels like someone is turning it inside out..

I don't know what happened to make Mindy so fearful of men that she will attack them, but obviously I cannot fix it for her..

Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 3103609)

Read the first post.....the OP says this is not her yorkie.

Originally Posted by Elle (Post 3103610)

Sometimes a person realizes that the care is more than they thought yada yada. I'd check this biting men thing further to see how true it is. How many single women take a new dog around different men. Is it me or does sound odd?

Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 3103465)

I have heard that they euthanize aggressive pups...you might want to ask them if that is true.

UYR does take problem pups now in certain foster homes. I would try them: www.uyr.us

Originally Posted by mommadog1 (Post 3103663)

Well thats just great. Well they will probably tell me no then if the don't do dogs like Mindy.

Thanks for the link, I have wrote them, but since they are in another state I doubt they can help. We shall see.

I was pretty ticked off at this woman for not calling me. I have been trying to get a hold of her for over a week and she just ignored my calls and emails. I could of maybe helped or at least taken her back sooner.

Now she is all stressed, running around the house, snapping at the other dogs. I can't put her through anything like this again. I know she must be so confused and maybe even a little ticked off.. I sure would be.

Now she is laying down chewing on a bone;)

Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 3103477)

Not all rescues will take dogs with biting issues...they are afraid of being sued. And, you need to understand that foster space is very limited! There are WAY too many yorkies being bred and sold to people who end up dumping them. It is a constant problem. We cannot possibly save all of them.

If she is biting men, WHY is the woman allowing men to handle her?!?!!?!? Not that it matters now...since she is returning her. I am sure you told her she had an aggressive problem with men? Heck you told us so I am sure you told her all of the history. When we place a pup like that we make sure that they will not be put back in the same situation.

Originally Posted by Elle (Post 3103605)

I don't understand. If I bred her, it's my responsibility to rehabilitate her. I wouldn't dare give her to a rescue. I support rescue. But she is my responsibility if I brought her into this world. Not anyone elses. It's unfortunate, but it's okay. A women without a dog that is not trained to work through her issues can't be the hope of a home she has.

Originally Posted by Elle (Post 3103610)

Sometimes a person realizes that the care is more than they thought yada yada. I'd check this biting men thing further to see how true it is. How many single women take a new dog around different men. Is it me or does sound odd?

Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 3103613)

Nope...not you...sounded odd to me as well. I am sure the OP told her about Mindy....and my impression was that there were no men in the home. How many people would take a pup that was afraid of men for walks around men and let the men HANDLE her so that they got bit???? Weird story for SURE.

Honestly at this point, I think this pup needs to be in a rescue that puts people through a ringer. I wish I could place her! She would not keep coming back. I just do not have room. People blast rescues for putting people though a ringer...but THIS is a perfect example of why. It is so unfair to a pup to put them through so many changes. This is a very sad story. I am quite sure I could handle her...I wish I could. :(

Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 3103678)

She was just stupid imo. If she knew that Mindy did not like men, why did she not tell them NOT to pet her. Just stupid, stupid. Mindy is better off away from her imho!

I don't buy that harness story. They don't just pull out of a harness. Good grief..how much does she weigh??? If the woman cannot control a yorkie, she need NOT have a dog at all. :(

Originally Posted by mommadog1 (Post 3103686)

I don't know if you realize this or not, but your pretty much putting the blame on me without coming right out and saying it. Maybe you don't mean to, but that is how it's coming across to me:(

Yes I sure did tell every single detail about Mindy. She said she could handle that and take the right precautions. I also put her the "ringer", I didn't just say here ya go, bye!

Here is what I did:
Had her fill out an adoption form
Had her for a visit after talking with her a couple of times on the phone.
Checked her references including talking with her vet.
Went to her place and visited her with Mindy (also the OK from the apt management).

Then I had her read and sign the adoption agreement. We had talked over and over about Mindy's man issue. And she was supposed to update me but never did.

I left a message on Saturday telling her if I did not hear from her by Monday I would be coming out to remove Mindy from her care, per the adoption agreement (which is legal) which she signed. Then Monday I got that call, but it was to ask me to take her back and why..and Ya, I was surprised by it. If it were me I would of called the person I got her from and let them (me) know what was going on.

She told me the reason she didn't was because she wanted to handle it herself. I guess she thought she knew more then she did, and more then me, the one person who could of helped. I would have worked with Mindy while she was there and possibly we could have had a different outcome.

I don't really see what more I could have done. And i am just SICK over this! I don't want to debate about rescues and what I should or shouldn't have done. I only want to talk about how to help Mindy.

At this point the only thing I can do is keep her and try to come up with extra money to take her to a trainer. She has been handed around to damn much and I just cannot live with putting her through it again.

BTW. My name is Karla..not OP;)

Originally Posted by mommadog1 (Post 3034183)

This is kind of a confusing story. And I don't know how to post it, I mean I am afraid I will be judged.. but here goes..

One of my husbands co-workers broke up with his girlfriend, he had to move back in with mom and he told Don he has to find his yorkie a home ASAP or to the pound because he couldn't keep him there.

Don has known this guy for years and wanted to help him out. So we said we would take her and find her a really good home.

Well we expected to be able to find her a home right away because she is a yorkie and a nice dog. However, the co-worker left out A LOT of information on this dog.. He lied!

So we have had to spend the last couple of months working with her. But while she is a wonderful, awesome girl she has a few issues so we have to be very careful where she goes.

Mindy dislikes men and will nip them in the leg.. BIG problem right there. BUT, we have found a way to help her with this issue and she no longer does this HERE... I cannot say she wont do it in a new home.

We started with my husband giving her a treat and saying hello to her when he comes in from work. She bit him (no blood) maybe 2 times and after he started this she has quit. We have our male friends do this when they come in as well and it has worked really well.

She is also a woman's dog, while she is now warming up to Don and will go to him to be petted, she spends 99% of her time with me on my lap or next to me.

I do not know how she is with kids but I wont place her in a home with kids under 12..Period..

She is crate trained but doesn't need to be in one. She should be in a home with a single, preferably retired or stays at home female or older couple. What she needs is a mellow home. She is a very mellow, sweet girl of 10 pounds. I just weighed her, she is still small but not tiny like some are looking for.

She is also a barker, she talks A LOT when my husband comes home. I have been using the dog repeller to try and train her and it works most of the time if I am close enough. But if all the dogs get going she doesn't always quit right away. she IS learning.

I have to many dogs right now and I cannot keep her, plus like I said it was never our intention to keep her. I have no clue how she is with cats. But she can be snotty to other dogs, especially females. But it's just certain dogs.

She and my cockapoo Candy cannot stand each other and Mindy can be a bully to my 5 year old yorkie Kizzie, and Kizzie is only 4 pounds. Kizzie is afraid of Mindy and ever since Mindy came here Kizzie spends a lot of her time hiding out in our room or my adult sons room.

Mindy is smart, she is cute and she is possibly mixed because she has a curly coat. She had a very short cut when we took her in and it is now growing out a lot and the curl is really showing. But she acts totally yorkie;)

She is house trained, she is up to date on her vaccines except rabies. We don't need it where we live so I don't do it on any of my own dogs. Mindy needs to be spayed and that will be done before she leaves my home.

I am not looking for any money for her, but I will be charging the spay fee as an adoption fee. Her teeth are good but is due for a cleaning as well I am sure.

I do not feel comfortable shipping her but I will consider it for the right home and I will have to get someone to come check out your home.

I don't know her birthday or who bred her or anything. Don's co-worker got her as a stray, she just showed up on their doorstep one day when she was approx. 6 months old. He is the one who said she is about 2 years old.

She is a really funny dog with a ton of personality and love to give.

Well that is all I can think of right now. If you are interested please contact me with more questions, etc.

I live in Washington State on the west side of the mountains. One hour south of Seattle...

You can see her here : Dog profile for Mindy, a female Yorkshire Terrier

And I use this vet clinic for doing spays and teeth cleaning: Value Pet Clinic

Check their prices here: Value Pet Clinic

Originally Posted by Elle (Post 3103860)

I realize that she's been moved around quite a bit. However, you're still there for her. Thank you for not giving up. It's very nice of you to help her.

Originally Posted by Elle (Post 3103860)

This was confusing! Karla, for starters, I'm sorry you're going through such a hard time.

It sounds like have done, are doing and will do whatever you can to do the right thing. I know some of the posts may/may not make you feel that way. Please try to remember that there isn't any inflection in email. Even the best breeders and foster moms can place a dog in a home that isn't perfect. We all do the best that we can, we hope for the best. No matter what happened, anyone would feel bad. Please try not to feel bad. If anyone is blaming you, they don't know what happened.

I realize that she's been moved around quite a bit. However, you're still there for her. Thank you for not giving up. It's very nice of you to help her.

Have you looked at rescues outside of yorkie?

Originally Posted by mommadog1 (Post 3103965)

Thank you Elle I appreciate your words, and support very much.

Mindy has been moved to much for my taste. And she is pretty upset right now. I don't know if it is possible, I believe it is, but I think she is mad as heck right now.

She is just going after the other dogs like she never has before. And I think she is taking out her anger and frustration out on the other dogs.

I honestly believe re-homing her again may push her completely over the edge.

I sent an email to the local trainer for bark busters to see what they may be able to do. Dog Training by Bark Busters

I heard about them from a woman on the yorkie list i am on. She said they used to work with rescue dogs for free, but isn't sure if they still do that or not.

Originally Posted by Elle (Post 3103860)

Have you looked at rescues outside of yorkie?

Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 3103974)

Poor Mindy....I am sure she is upset. She has been through so much. I agree...too much is too much! I don't know if I would have the heart to look for another home for her after all of this.

I think when a place offers free services to rescues, they mean established rescues.

Bark Busters has a lifetime guarantee. I have never used them, but have heard some people say they are great. Not sure how they are with behavioral issues. I really thought they were more into training.

Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 3103977)

Just because you do not see a yorkie rescue in your area, does not mean that one of the national groups does not have a foster home in your area!

The groups have to use an address to list on Petfinder. So...sometimes dogs may be in another area!

Originally Posted by AUSTINGIRL (Post 3103764)

I saw your post on Yorkietalk and I am interested in Mindy. My husband and I are retired, we live in Texas and just built a new home. We have a large yard and it is fenced with an 8' privacy fence. We have a Yorkie named Angus, he is 9 years old. Everyday we go for a walk in the Green Belt down by the river....Angus loves his walks...... and Mindy looks like a Yorkie to me. That is the correct picture of her isn't it. I see she has a long tail. She really looks cute and I think she and Angus would get along as he is so laid back. I'll wait to hear from you.

Originally Posted by mommadog1 (Post 3104032)

Thank you for your interest in Mindy but your lifestyle will not fit for Mindy and at this point I am not going to re-home her. And more then likely she would bully Angus:(

Originally Posted by AUSTINGIRL (Post 3104082)

I take offence with your reply..."Your lifestyle will not fit Mindy." I jog with my dog every day and am not your regular retiree. SHE WOULD NOT BULLY ANGUS...he would take so much and then let her have it. I plan on purchasing another Yorkie - no more rescues for me.

Originally Posted by livingdustmops (Post 3104093)

Very interesting kind of response...since #1 the issue with Mindy is Men and you are married to I assume a man and #2 she has said she is not a rescue organization..so why would you judge based on this and say, no more rescues?