Amandawash no one can say you didn't give it your all to help Emma.

I just can't help wondering if its about being rehomed out of the area or the fact that a spayed female sold through a rescue isn't going to bring as much $$$$. I sure hope I'm wrong. I hope she doesn't end up sold to a puppy mill.

4doggiemama and valerieam -- I think Amanda was speaking to DanicaBraggs who posted she is willing to foster Emma and look for a potential forever home for her in Illinois. Gina decided she wants to look for people to rehome in Utah instead of shipping/travelling by YT train to another location to look for a rehome prospect. That sounds very reasonable!

It was admirable for Danica to volunteer but if they can find a local family that is right for Emma, it would be a lot easier on her.

The distance between Amanda and Gina's homes is only 5 hours. Amanda offered to meet Gina half way.

Everyone just needs to please calm down. I know we're all concerned about this Yorkie, but patience needs to be exercised. I think the first thing that people need to realize and understand is that I'm not in any position to do anything with this dog until I've spoken with the proper authorities and figure out what I can LEGALLY do and what my limitations are.

I know Amanda offered to meet me halfway, but I do have obligations and responsibilities and I can't just drop everything I'm doing and spend 6 hours in a car at a moments notice. I am the rescue director for my local Avian society and with that title comes A LOT of responsibility. Weekends are tough, as I usually spend the bulk of them moving parrots into rescue, assessing their needs/temperament, vet checks, cleaning cages, and then to foster or adoptive homes. I cannot let those counting on me down just because someone dumped a dog on my doorstep. Please try to understand this and accept the fact that I take my seat on the board of directors VERY seriously.

At the moment, I'm not entirely sure I can just outright rehome her and still have a case. My attorney is checking into it for me. I should know more about that sometime this week. In the event that I can't rehome her, I'll definitely be looking to Amanda for long term foster care while we litigate the case in courts.

I do know, however, that until the courts make a decision on the case, I cannot spay her. Spaying her would be altering and/changing a dog that was advertised here on YT as a breeding dog and would nullify my case against the breeder. We all know she's not, but our opinions don't always count. Courts treat animals as property and not as a living creature. I know it's not fair, but it's how the legal system works. This information as stressed heavily to me today, so it's something I need to take into consideration.

I WILL keep everyone abreast of everything I find out and everything that we do regarding Emma.

First of all, no one "dumped" a dog on your doorstep, you are the reason you have Emma. Are you really saying Emma is going to stay with you in this impossible and you say dangerous situation while you wait for a court to issue a decision, something that could take years, I hope you realize. And then there will be appeals process, you are talking years. Do you think someone is going to foster an unspayed dog for years while you battle this out. If you have any feelings at all for this Yorkie, then please re-consider and get the pup spayed and into the right forever home.

And poor Little Emma is for sale for $650.00 at ksl.com classified ???????????

I am sorry that you have to get rid on Emma.:(:thumbdown:(:thumbdown:(
I hope that you find her a new home soon!!

Sorry you are going through this.
With Emma's best interest at heart, I hope all works out for her and you very soon.

Yes, you are correct it does look to be Emma being posted For Sale. Here is the link to the ad.

ksl.com - Ad Listing

:thumbup::thumbup::confused:I thought Gina wanted this dog out of her house? This is so sad because Amanda would be the best thing for Emma and can have her spayed for free. What is this All about anyway, MONEY???? It must be. So sad you wont use Amanda. :mad:

As far as Im concerned you have shown all of us your TRUE COLORS why this Gina, I dont get it,ksl.com Amanda is only 5 hours away and is willing to meet you half way and will have her spayed and will give you the rehoming fee. How could you turn that down and post to ksl. Everyone on YT knows that Amanda has a heart of Gold and is the best thing for EMMA.

I am getting so sick reading these posts. I think the breeder was wrong but I think the seller is now equally wrong. You don't need to drive 5 or 6 hours one way. Amanda offered half way which could be 2.5 hours one way. Now here is Amanda who is offering to take her AND spay her and you have problems with that. In other words, if all else fails, then you'll go to Amanda?
She is being advertised for sale, more than once. If it is because of money, just say it. I just don't understand how you don't have money to spay her but you have money for a lawyer?
You have members of YT donating money for a spay. Now you are saying you can't spay her because it would make her a different dog other than what was advertised. It will cost you TONS of money for a lawyer with no guarantee of you winning or the breeder being responsible for your attorney fees.
Is this worth it, all this, while Emma remains in your home, for how long, a year, maybe more?
I think you should consider this a lesson learned and a loss of money as a teacher to you.
I can assure you, this has happened to others as well. But lawyer fees will far outweigh the price you paid for Emma. So if it is the loss of money, which you claim it is, how can you afford all this? And you can't drive half way to meet Amanda but time for lawyers. This all makes no sense to me.
Amanda, you are a sweetheart for all you offered and I don't even know you.
Is finding a local home more important than someone who truly wants her and is offering to finance the spaying herself? You don't find too many Amandas around.
I would seriously reconsider Amanda's offer. I know your involvement with Avian but you are now involved with Emma as well and just can't continue to advertise her and hope for the best. It's not realistic for Emma to remain with you, your children and your other baby. Don't think for a minute Emma doesn't feel any of this. A dog can sense things much better than we can in hiding our feelings.
What is it you REALLY want here that you don't feel you're getting.
nuff said.

I would be willing to give Amanda gas money so she could come to your home to get Emma and Im sure other will too. Is this something you may consider?

For me I wouldn't give a hoot about money.
My only concern and priority would be Emma.
I realize you may want to get some money back, but I just am so confused at some of the posts.
I pray for Emma thats all:(

i agree that no one has "dumped" THIS DOG on you. You site all your responsibilities with the rescue yet in another post on this thread you were begging for help because you were so out of touch with how rescues work. What is going on here? You asked US to calm down. I also tried to refer you to some people that run a yorkie placement nearly like a rescue and you started asking about adoption fees. When I told you there would be no adoption fee to you, you stopped writing. Anyone involved with rescue knows there are no adoption fees. You turn your dog over free. i can certainly un derstand your needing to get your money back. At least what you can. No one can afford to just give money away. I am sickened by your post this morning. i agree that you have turned out as bad as this breeder. Things are coming to light that make you seem very shady. yes, we are concerned about this dog and NO we don't have to calm down. The longer this thread goes on, the worse YOU are beginning to look andd not just to me. You seem to have made your mind up what you are going to do. The only way people are going to "calm" down is for you to write admin a pm and ask that this thread be closed.

I have all the postings to emma read and it's unbelievable. Amanda, Danica and others have offered to help!

Is it not more important that emma finally found a good home in which she also is loved? I believe that that you feed and care for Emma, but what is with affection and love to her? Emma feels that she are not welcome and loved.
It's just about the damn money.
I can not believe it. Emma must finally get a proper home, such as this should go on? How sad is all this!

:thumbup:I totally agree

Whats this new Thread you started this morning? I'm really starting to not like people
Teiya , Are you not doing the same thing to Emma by posting her for sale KSL.COM with not being spayed. How can you be so sad about these other dogs when you just need to look in your own home at Emma, I dont get it. You need to stop seeking advise from the Avian Lawyer friend and go with what in your heart....

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I just feel so bad for Emma. She just needs to be with someone that loves her and pampers her. It seems the breeder and the buyer were only interested in money. What a shame

You talk a good talk. But, your actions show otherwise. How can you write all this, while you have her listed for sale??? Too bad you don't care for her the way you SEEM to care about you're precious birds. I have no sympathy left for you. I hope she's getting proper care, because you sure don't talk as if you care anything about this dog that got "DUMPED" at your door (that really upsets me)

I don't understand the reason for posting a for sale ad if you say you have to hold on to Emma for "evidence" in a court case..:confused:....And again you can't have her spayed because it would "alter" the evidence for your court case..:confused:

If that is the case then everyone is wasting their time until the courts make a decision.....so does that mean Emma's in the dog house for a while with you?? :confused:....how sad for Emma...

These threads are are getting more upsetting as they go on.....:(

Even a Avian friend lawyer isn't going to continue for free. Court appearances and all. No way. And why is it that you won't have this thread closed. Now that things are clearly coming to light on real motives, I advise that you just might want to do that.
Can you possibly understand how people here are starting to get aggravated and feeling stressed over this? This was suppose to be all about Emma. Somewhere down the line it seems you changed that. Time to fight your own battles....I think.

this OP is turning out to be a dramaa queen and opening up more and more threads to cause controversy. She needs to be banned if she continues. When one thread in which she has been rude herself gets too hot for her, she just runs and openss up another.

SHAME SHAME SHAME MS BOARD OF DIRECTORS. Hope nobody from the AVIAN rescue in other areas see what a true patrion you really are..And there are alot of people on YT that own Birds. Im one of them....I know the Avian rescue here in Dallas....

ksl.com - Ad Listing

Nothing that you posted above rings true when two days ago you relisted Emma for sale. It looks as though you never had any intentions of taking up Amanda on her offer - nor have your intentions ever been about what is best for Emma, only what is best for you and your wallet.

Considering the amount of time this OP has spent on YT, she could have drove this dog anywhere for rehoming! Poor Poor Emma! :mad:

Gina - there is an attorney on YT and I've PMd her to see if she has any insight into the spaying issue. I don't know if she'll be able to offer an opinion, but I will wait and see.

If Emma can indeed be spayed, I do hope that you will get her to Amanda asap. When a person has a dog in their house and talks about that dog as "being dumped on my doorstep" - it becomes an emergency to get that dog out of the environment. I understand your disappointment and your emotional reactions to this situation - but I TRULY WISH you would allow Emma to leave your home asap, and get her to Amanda. I am not implying in any way that she is being mistreated, but she is definitely absorbing all of the feelings you are having about this situation and all of the feelings of being a "dump" and unwanted as a dog.

Won't you please do what's right for this dog?

Thanks for the explanation. My mistake. I thought that meant that even Amanda couldn't foster.

When a person has a dog in their house and talks about that dog as "being dumped on my doorstep" - it becomes an emergency to get that dog out of the environment. I understand your disappointment and your emotional reactions to this situation - but I TRULY WISH you would allow Emma to leave your home asap, and get her to Amanda. I am not implying in any way that she is being mistreated, but she is definitely absorbing all of the feelings you are having about this situation and all of the feelings of being a "dump" and unwanted as a dog.

Won't you please do what's right for this dog?



AMEN Mod, glad you saw a few things. Anyway you think you might close this thread? I feel too much has gone on to be any longer involved in so many untruths. Meaning both breeder/buyer. Thank you also for agreeing with me that Emma most certainly feels that friction in the home.
I hope that the OP contacts Amanda after reading the most recent posts.
I can't understand the for sale posting. Sure someone can come to the house and see her and want her. AND PAY MONEY!! How do you know that person will care for her in the proper manner in which she needs. And if that person has no experience with Yorkies? I can see a heartbreak coming. And so angry that this even came to the board. Everyone is feeling it.