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07-30-2008, 07:56 AM | #1 |
Senior Yorkie Talker | Is it just me? I truly do not want to cause a stir but...I can't help but wonder about the cost of "adoption" fees these days. I totally understand that the dogs who come into rescue need to be vetted. But can they truly be racking up bills into the hundreds and thousands? I think it is a sad fact that most people in today's economy can't afford to initally lay out hundreds of dollars to adopt a pet even though they are quite capable of covering regular vet and upkeep expenses. I have to wonder if the high cost of adoption fees is what keeps alot of people from adopting. For instance, if one were willing/able to lay out $500+ initially for a rescued and/or mix breed (aka "designer" dogs...that's another subject entirely!!) wouldn't that person be more likely to buy from a questionable breeder for the same or lower cost? Thereby perpetuating the problem? Just wondering...
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07-30-2008, 08:02 AM | #2 |
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| I Am Curious About This Myself. Thanks For Asking. Can't Wait To See The Responses. I Looked Into Rescued Yorkies Before I Got Izzy (even Though I Got Her Before She Went To Rescue) They Are Quite Expensive. I Wish There Was A Way Of Getting Younger People Who Want To Adopt Animals To Get Them From A Rescue Or Shelter. Everyone Always Wants A Puppy. Izzy Is 2years Old, I Just Got Her A Month Ago And She Is Basically Like Having A Puppy To Me. (i Am 19years Old).
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07-30-2008, 08:03 AM | #3 |
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| SORRY FOR RUMBLING ON. BUT, DO YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
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07-30-2008, 08:27 AM | #4 |
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| The point has been made here on YT quite often that if you can't afford to pay $500 for a doggie than what are the chances that you can afford an unexpected vet bill of, say, $2,000? I know that it can happen, but in my opinion once the owner has the doggies and loves it, they are more likely to be able to find money for vet bills. Of course, there are instances where it doesn't work that way. It's been that way for me though. But, of course, this is only JMHO. Joanne
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07-30-2008, 08:30 AM | #5 | |
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With that said you made a good point about our economy. Rescue works on donations. Who do you think pays for their vet care for the animals they are adopting? Vets are not cheap and they do not work free. The money has to come from somewhere in order to keep the rescue operationable. My personal feelings is that you are getting quite a deal adopting. If money is an issue the local Humane Societies also include the spay or neuter as well as shots etc. and they charge generally only $150. You do find pure breds in there as well but there are plenty of mixed breeds that need homes and make just a good a pet. I hate the word designer dog because really all it is is a mutt or as I prefer to call it mixed up pup. Elaine | |
07-30-2008, 08:35 AM | #6 |
Donating YT 500 Club Member | With our rescue I don't believe the fees we've charged for any of our rescues has been excessive. IMO, the idea behind adopting from a rescue is more a matter of the heart than the wallet. Many of the rescues do come in with numerous physical issues to be addressed. Some are much more expensive to treat than others.
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08-03-2008, 06:38 PM | #7 |
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| I am the foster/adoption coordinator for a rescue in Texarkana AR. I looked for 2 months for a Yorkie rescue to adopt. I finally gave up and bought my second Yorkie from a hobby breeder in Little Rock AR. The adoption fees on rescue yorkies were so high, I couldn't begin to touch them. And as someone who works with rescues, I just don't get it either! Our rescues, no matter what the breed are adopted out for a fee between $50 and $150. We have never gone any higher. (Many of these have been full breed or designer breed) No matter how long the animal was in our care, no matter what it took to get them healthy and ready for adoption..... And my husband and I have had orphaned pups from 6 days old to strays that took 6 months to adopt, to a almost starved full blood boxer who was heart worm positive and had to be neutered. His bill, when ready to adopt was over $1000. His adoption fee was proof of training classes from his new owners..... It shouldn't be about money. Yes, a new owner should be aware of the costs. But charging people more than most can afford to adopt a homeless animal isn't the answer. We include on our application a list of expenses including yearly shots, heart worm preventative, flea preventative and spay/neuter. Applicants are required to fill this out according to their vet's pricing. We won't accept an application until this is filled out... We work very hard on fundraisers in our area. It's a major part of what we do, and the reason why is to insure that we keep our adoption fees down. We also assist owners in emergency medical situations, we realize that even loving pet owners have situations that require a little help. And of course, we also assist in spay/neuter bills through our local vet. It's about the animal not about the owners!!!! Making sure that they have a loving home.
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08-04-2008, 05:54 AM | #8 |
Senior Yorkie Talker | Grace & Anne Thank you so much for posting. I completely agree with what you said. I have volunteered for several organizations in the fundraising arena. That is truly where the $$ comes from for most non-profit organizations. I realize that some organizations are privately funded but most are not. Again, thank you for doing what you do and making it possible for animals to find loving homes.
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08-04-2008, 06:33 AM | #9 |
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| I belong to a very small rescue (only three of us) in New England. Here in MA vetting is very expensive and we try to cover the expenses through the adoption fee. All of our dogs are neutered/spayed, full blood work, dental, rabies shot, distemper/parvo titer, heart worm/lyme tested, fecal sample, etc To have a dog spayed at my vet is around $450, and a dental runs at leat $200.. so a $500 adoption fee would not nearly cover the full vetting at my vets office.... Luckliy we have a vet that gives us a "reduced" rate but even then we are not talking that much, and it adds up quickly when you are completley vetting a dog, and our dogs we adopt out our fully vetted.. Sometimes we do take in a dog who has already been spayed/neutered but that is not common..and then we would take any extra money to help pay for any surgeries that we need to do or put it towards an older dog that does not have a high adoption fee. Right now I am fostering a dog that needs 2 FHO surgeries..up here in NE one leg alone usually costs over $1000.00. We depend on our adoption fees and donations from people to cover the costs of our vetting. Also, here in New England to buy a Yorkie puppy from a reptuable breeder you are looking at over $1500...and as mentioned earlier that does not cover any of the above vetting....that you would then need to do. So I do not feel that $500 is a high adoption fee here in NE for a young dog that has been fully vetted...I would be spending much more than that if I was to buy a puppy from a breeder just in vetting never mind the price of the puppy.
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08-04-2008, 07:26 AM | #10 |
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| Maybe, I'm just stupid but I'm not understanding what the complain is about the fees rescues charge. Why do you think that a $400 - $500 fee for a Yorkie puppy is expensive and yet if you were buying it through a breeder it would be considered cheap? I'm not getting how in anyone's eyes money is being made on that pup. Granted you there are some rescues that are no reputable and they do no kind of vetting on that pup prior to placing but MOST or at least ANY REPUTABLE RESCUE in that $400 - $500 adoption fee cover the vetting so I ask again how are they making money when they've put out $350 for a spay, another say $75 for shots, plus the vet visit it self which probably runs $50 or more and that's not to mention the incidentals the pup may need and it's not to mention the food etc. I'm not trying to argue but I really do not understand how people complain about $400 - $500 for an adoption which covers all the vetting and spay / neuter yet you hear no one complaining when they spend $1000 or more to buy a pup that comes with nothing but his papers. Do you guys think that fostering, vetting and spaying cost less for a rescue then it does for one you buy? Do you realize that most vets do not even discount for a rescue. Where do you think the money comes from? I know for a fact that the $400 I paid to rescue for Lilly did not even cover her expenses. I got her paper work and the vetting was $900 so they lost $500 on her yet never said a word. You guys really need to rethink and ask why a rescue can't ask $400 - $500 for a dog that is fully vetted yet a breeder can sell for $1000 which covers no vetting and no one has a problem with that. Rescue does not mean free and it does not mean it feeds itself or vets itself. Elaine |
08-04-2008, 07:44 AM | #11 | |
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I adopted Lady from my neighbor who had found her after she was abandoned, not from a rescue group. She was already spayed, but I still spent more than twice what the rescue adoption fee for vaccinations, bloodwork, and a dental. Rescue is not a way to get a bargain Yorkie. If you can't afford the upfront cost of a dog be it $500 or $5,000, you can't afford to properly care for a dog. Here is a good estimate of what it costs to own a dog: The Cost of Owning a Dog | |
08-04-2008, 08:07 AM | #12 | |
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08-04-2008, 08:27 AM | #13 |
Senior Yorkie Talker | I'm sorry. As I said in my original post, I did not wish to upset anyone. I was simply curious. I also did not mention an exact amount. I was not referring to 4/500 dollars. I actually saw and ad on petfinder, thru a rescue, for over $700. I truly believe that that is too much money to ask for a rescued dog, regardless of what has been spent on him, when most people who are willing to spend that and more would be more likely to go out and buy from a questionable breeder for a healthy dog than pay the same money for a dog who may very well have serious and continuing issues. My concern was not for "how much money should one pay for a rescue" but rather how can we, as a caring group of individuals, be placing more rescued dogs in loving & caring homes and seeing fewer in shelters and rescues? I hope that clarifies any concern.
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08-04-2008, 08:58 AM | #14 |
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| Will answer.. I posted an answer to the same topic on another thread in another area. Here in my neck of the woods, and the rescue I belong to, we raise money by fundraisers instead of adoption fees. I donate things to be raffled. Our spay/neuters are done by clinics which offer reduced rates ($35 for a spay) Vets here donate the cost of care. (Our President of the NC YTRN was a male vet once). We accept donated food, etc. I donate clothes etc to many local orgs. We have the time to put in. Yes, it is about the yorkies, not about how much money they can make for our org. Sorry if anyone is offended, that's just my 2 cents.
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