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Tatiana11 12-01-2007 08:37 AM

a fundraiser is not a bad idea!!!!!!!
I am sure I can get some stuff together for the fundraiser. And I bet my dads store (liquor store) would donate some stuff.

livingdustmops 12-01-2007 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by kalina82 (Post 1569883)
I'm sorry you do not have the funds to help this little guy. this happens alot actually. i've seen it first hand since i'm a tech for an orthopedic surgeon. You all ask why the vet doesn't fix it for free or for a lower price. Its because there are so many of these cases that the vet cannot accept one and turn down another. If he did these surgeries for free the vet would be losing out on lots of money. Its not just about the money but i think sometimes people forget that vets are trying to make a living too. most are in debt up to their eyeballs from paying for vet school.

Have you guys tried calling one of the rescues over here like united yorkie rescue or rescue me? Would a bigger organization have more money to help this little guy?

Another thing to consider is amputation. if you cannot afford to fix the leg perhaps you can see what the price would be for an amputation, usually they are much cheaper. The dog will adapt quite well and won't even notice after a few weeks. instead of putting the dog to sleep this is a much better option, IMO.

Great post and good advise:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

I had a 3 legged cat who still could climb a tree:D

Yorkiedaze 12-01-2007 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Fuzzywug (Post 1566944)
Yorkie Rescue Colorado faces a dilemma. We were contacted yesterday and asked to take in a year and half old male yorkie who had his leg broken Thanksgiving Day. His family cannot afford to have his leg repaired. The vet has given us an approximate price of $3,000 to repair his leg. Seeing that the break happened a week ago it is a more difficult surgery.

What's the dilemma? We don't have $3,000 to fix this little boy. If we don't take him the owner is going to have him put down because the dog is in such pain. It breaks my heart to have to turn him away, knowing that the only thing preventing him from having a long happy life is money!

And people get angry when we ask a re-homing fee for the dogs we do make well. Little ones such as Reese are the reason.

I will continue to look for a way to help him.

Hug your little ones, they are so lucky to be loved and cared for.

Trish
Yorkie Rescue Colorado

All the reputable rescues that I know of all have a web page. They all have a section where they ask for donations, and even show pictures of all the little dogs who are in very bad need of expensive treatments. They get all the money they need doint that. You would be much better off starting a web page than going on all the dog chats. If your legit, then I'm sorry for the little dog and maybe you and others on your rescue could hold garage/bake sales and such, but if your just another scammer, then your punishment will be left up to God, but a warning to those who send money to people who come on here to beg.

TLC 12-01-2007 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Yorkiedaze (Post 1569937)
All the reputable rescues that I know of all have a web page. They all have a section where they ask for donations, and even show pictures of all the little dogs who are in very bad need of expensive treatments. They get all the money they need doint that. You would be much better off starting a web page than going on all the dog chats. If your legit, then I'm sorry for the little dog and maybe you and others on your rescue could hold garage/bake sales and such, but if your just another scammer, then your punishment will be left up to God, but a warning to those who send money to people who come on here to beg.

This rescue is a very legit and honest organization. The do have a website.

Tatiana11 12-01-2007 09:29 AM

I dunno how we anyone can say they are scammer. Why even post on this thread if you think they scammers. There is a little dog in need and all you care about is deciphering between the real deal and scammers. Punishment will be left up to god for those who actually steal and lie, not those who help anyone, human or animal in need. It is a shame to place such ideas into yorkietalkers head before even investigating your claim. Please go to yorkierescuecolorado.com and read the little guys story, and then please show compassion. No one asked for any money, not even the rescue, they simply put the story out there for suggestion. Please dont just jump to conclusions to discredit their organization. Thank you.

livingdustmops 12-01-2007 09:38 AM

Calm down everyone, I don't think YorkieDaze saw their link under the siggy or realized these two woman are members of YT. They are a small rescue just trying to save one dog at a time.

I do feel it is important if someone thinks a scam is going on to voice their concern..a scam rescue hurts everyone involved but mostly the dogs. I would much rather apolgize to someone then to let them get scammed.

Gingergirlsmom 12-01-2007 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Yorkiedaze (Post 1569937)
All the reputable rescues that I know of all have a web page. They all have a section where they ask for donations, and even show pictures of all the little dogs who are in very bad need of expensive treatments. They get all the money they need doint that. You would be much better off starting a web page than going on all the dog chats. If your legit, then I'm sorry for the little dog and maybe you and others on your rescue could hold garage/bake sales and such, but if your just another scammer, then your punishment will be left up to God, but a warning to those who send money to people who come on here to beg.

they are legit. Here's their web page: http://yorkierescuecolorado.com/home.html

and they do have a link for donations.

Also, Bettyanne has been a member here for ages, I think this is the perfect place for this to be announced.

Yes, reputable rescues have webpages with pics of dogs and requests for donations...but I don't think many have all of their costs covered that way. It's a labor of LOVE...not money.

Finally, Yorkiedaze...thanks for keeping an eye on things, I too didn't see the link in the beginning. Just trying to share what I just found out.

Yorkiedaze 12-01-2007 10:13 AM

I don't mean to put a burr in anyones nickers, but generally when a rescue has a web site it generates a lot of money from donations, adoptions, sales and so on. I just find it a bit strange to see a rescue ask for money on a chat site that's all.

livingdustmops 12-01-2007 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Yorkiedaze (Post 1570109)
I don't mean to put a burr in anyones nickers, but generally when a rescue has a web site it generates a lot of money from donations, adoptions, sales and so on. I just find it a bit strange to see a rescue ask for money on a chat site that's all.

She did not ask for donations and all, even the reputable rescue's need $$$ even if they do have a website. The only Yorkie rescue group I know that has lots of $$$ is YTCA and the only reason I say this is because of their foundation...maybe they also need $$$ but I just don't know.

Gingergirlsmom 12-01-2007 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Yorkiedaze (Post 1570109)
I don't mean to put a burr in anyones nickers, but generally when a rescue has a web site it generates a lot of money from donations, adoptions, sales and so on. I just find it a bit strange to see a rescue ask for money on a chat site that's all.

I don't think they asked for money. I am guilty of mentioning the "D" word, or at least the concept. But I am not affiliated with this rescue in anyway. Speaking only for me, there's no burr in my nickers:D (never heard that before, lol). This is a small, new rescue, who's been posting their successes and battles since the beginning. It was started by a long time member who, I believe, has never done anything to make us question her ethics. This is not one of those people who shows up here, and in their first 100 posts is asking for a handout.

I do appreciate that we have to be careful. That's is why I am trying to direct people to their website. They can decide for themselves if this is a rescue they wish to donate too.

I think this is the perfect place for this discussion. RESCUE's need all the help they can get.

Fuzzywug 12-01-2007 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Yorkiedaze (Post 1570109)
I don't mean to put a burr in anyones nickers, but generally when a rescue has a web site it generates a lot of money from donations, adoptions, sales and so on. I just find it a bit strange to see a rescue ask for money on a chat site that's all.


Will you please tell me where you got the information that backs up the statement you made about a website generating a lot of money for a new rescue? Sadly you are misinformed and you are completely in the dark about the purpose of a website. Saying that having a website makes you legit is the same as saying that pasting wings on your back makes you an angel.

Again, you are mistaken - Yorkie Rescue Colorado DID NOT, HAS NOT and WILL NOT ask for donations from this group. It is not allowed. We post purely to inform - not to beg. We have done this long before we had a website - inform the group of what is going on with our rescue. We do it because we are members of this group. Members of this group love Yorkies. If a person chooses to help; that is a personal choice.

Our concern and focus is, and always will be, to help Yorkies in need. In Reese's case we do not have the funds to help him. We posted so that those also concerned about the welfare of less fortunate Yorkies could help if they saw fit to do so. Helping makes many people feel good. How about you?

I do not apologize for posting about our shortcomings, our lack of funds - our inability to offer immediate help for this Yorkie and I'm sorry if you find it strange. Would it have been more acceptable to turn a blind eye on this dog because we couldn't afford to take him?

My heart and my thanks to everyone who has offered suggestions, offered to help in any way. YOU are the people who I post too. YOU are the people who reach out to stroke the matted face of a friendless Yorkie. YOU are the people who save them. Yorkie Rescue Colorado is merely the conduit for your kindness.

I will be posting an update on Reese later today. I am expecting and hoping to have some good news for all of us!!!!!

Sincerely,
Trish
Yorkie Rescue Colorado
yorkierescuecolorado.com

bettyeanne 12-01-2007 02:23 PM

Gingergirlsmom, livingdustmops, Tatiana11, TLC & kalina82 ... thank you from the bottom of my heart for your advice, support and effort in trying to help us to help this little one! I am so sorry that I didn't see these posts earlier and if any of you experienced any unpleasantness on our behalf, well, I apologize for that also. I suppose, when you've been here for as long as I have, you just assume that everyone knows you're honest and would never, ever do anything as deplorable as try to "scam" anyone, especially by using a poor defenseless animal to do so! Trish & I have been trying so hard to help every little one that we are contacted about whether it's accept them as surrenders or just advise/refer a distraught owner who doesn't know what to do! I certainly hope that those of you who know us also know that if Trish & I have a crust of bread ... 2/3 of it goes to our babies!! We love and appreciate every one of you and pretty soon I believe that Trish will have some very good news for you all!! ;)

Tatiana11 12-01-2007 02:25 PM

Looking forward to good news, still no work from the alameda vet!! perhaps since its the weekend, he is lacking. No snow here in aurora/denver yet so it should be an easy commute if the need to go anywhere arises.

Gingergirlsmom 12-01-2007 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by bettyeanne (Post 1570703)
Gingergirlsmom, livingdustmops, Tatiana11, TLC & kalina82 ... thank you from the bottom of my heart for your advice, support and effort in trying to help us to help this little one! I am so sorry that I didn't see these posts earlier and if any of you experienced any unpleasantness on our behalf, well, I apologize for that also. I suppose, when you've been here for as long as I have, you just assume that everyone knows you're honest and would never, ever do anything as deplorable as try to "scam" anyone, especially by using a poor defenseless animal to do so! Trish & I have been trying so hard to help every little one that we are contacted about whether it's accept them as surrenders or just advise/refer a distraught owner who doesn't know what to do! I certainly hope that those of you who know us also know that if Trish & I have a crust of bread ... 2/3 of it goes to our babies!! We love and appreciate every one of you and pretty soon I believe that Trish will have some very good news for you all!! ;)

Beattyanne,

No suffering going on here! I just wish that I could do something more substantial then tell his story.

I'm looking forward to news!!!

kalina82 12-01-2007 02:32 PM

just wanted to state again, that if you cannot pay for the surgery and you wait too long, please do not have the owner put him to sleep. Have the leg amputated (i'm sorry if it sounds cruel but its a much better outcome then euthanasia). He will live a long and healthy life this way.

Since his break was last week the bones are already starting to mend, but they are probably mending the wrong way. The longer the break goes untreated the harder the surgery is going to be and its going to cost more money.

I don't think it was mentioned yet, and if it was i'm sorry i missed it, but do you know what kind of break it is and what exactly is fractured?

livingdustmops 12-01-2007 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by bettyeanne (Post 1570703)
Gingergirlsmom, livingdustmops, Tatiana11, TLC & kalina82 ... thank you from the bottom of my heart for your advice, support and effort in trying to help us to help this little one! I am so sorry that I didn't see these posts earlier and if any of you experienced any unpleasantness on our behalf, well, I apologize for that also. I suppose, when you've been here for as long as I have, you just assume that everyone knows you're honest and would never, ever do anything as deplorable as try to "scam" anyone, especially by using a poor defenseless animal to do so! Trish & I have been trying so hard to help every little one that we are contacted about whether it's accept them as surrenders or just advise/refer a distraught owner who doesn't know what to do! I certainly hope that those of you who know us also know that if Trish & I have a crust of bread ... 2/3 of it goes to our babies!! We love and appreciate every one of you and pretty soon I believe that Trish will have some very good news for you all!! ;)

HaHa - I wear Big Girl Panties :D so I can take care of myself. To me it is all about protecting these little ones.

TLC 12-01-2007 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by livingdustmops (Post 1570746)
HaHa - I wear Big Girl Panties :D so I can take care of myself. To me it is all about protecting these little ones.

:) my idol ;)

livingdustmops 12-01-2007 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TLC (Post 1570782)
:) my idol ;)


HaHa - you are toooo much! I am human just like everyone else and I do make mistakes but because I am getting older I now slow down before I make a fool of myself to fast.:p

Fuzzywug 12-01-2007 03:34 PM

News about Reese - a Decision has been made
 
Dear Caring YT Members,

Bettye and I have made a decision re: Reese. By the Grace of God, and the help of others, we will take up this challenge of making Reese's healing Reese's leg and have already found him the perfect home. I hope you not only agree with our decision, but that your heart is warmed by it. :)

As you all know, Reese is a Yorkie who has a broken leg and his owner can not afford to have it repaired. He is a single parent who has custody of his eight year old daughter. This man has been out of work for 3 months because of a broken back. On Monday he starts a new job as a finish carpenter. In spite of financial difficulties he still took their pet to the vet, got him pain meds and did the kindest, most loving thing they could do...... they searched for a rescue to help, rather than have him suffer.

We have spent numerous hours trying to find help for Reese. Last night two women called and said they were willing to pick him up and keep him until we could get him to a reasonable vet. Today they called and said that she had Reese in her possession. She was nearly hysterical when told me that it was the hardest thing she had ever done. She stood there while an 8 year old girl, tears streaming down her face, handed Reese over to her, saying: "I love you Reesie, but I know this is the best thing for you."

The fact that they've had some hard financial times does not diminish the fact that they truly love Reese. Kerry, the lady who got him said the look in Reese's eyes when she took him away just broke her heart. He will be spending the night with her. On Monday he will see the vet and we will know more about what needs to be done and the cost.

Our rescue goals for each pup are accomplished when we've found the perfect home - a home where a pup can love and be loved. We believe that Reese had the perfect home. Because of this we have decided that we will do all we have to do to have his legs surgically repaired. Then, with the same love it took to surrender Reese to us; we will send him to the perfect home, ... to the little girl he loves, to the family he loves and who love him enough to put his welfare above their own emotions.

This fellow emailed many other rescues looking for help. We are the only rescue who responded, even after I called some myself. Why did we respond and say we didn't have the money, but would still try to help? It was too painful to say we wouldn't or couldn't help. In spite of our lack of funds, Bettye and I both believe that if God sends you to it, He will get you through it.

This is the season of faith and miracles. We both have faith. Some people believe in miracles; Bettye and I count on them!


Warmest regards,
Trish & Bettye
Yorkie Rescue Colorado

Tatiana11 12-01-2007 03:36 PM

Amazing.

kalina82 12-01-2007 03:36 PM

that's wonderful news! so your gonna fix him up and give him back to his family? did i read that right?

livingdustmops 12-01-2007 03:38 PM

I applaud your decision...it is all about finding the perfect home for these little ones and Reese will be in a warm loving home. This family put the dogs welfare above their own needs..you can't ask for more than that.:)

Fuzzywug 12-01-2007 03:40 PM

That's what we said.
 
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Originally Posted by kalina82 (Post 1570926)
that's wonderful news! so your gonna fix him up and give him back to his family? did i read that right?


Yes, you read it right! LOL

yorkiesmiles 12-01-2007 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Fuzzywug (Post 1570914)

This fellow emailed many other rescues looking for help. We are the only rescue who responded, even after I called some myself. Why did we respond and say we didn't have the money, but would still try to help? It was too painful to say we wouldn't or couldn't help. In spite of our lack of funds, Bettye and I both believe that if God sends you to it, He will get you through it.

This is the season of faith and miracles. We both have faith. Some people believe in miracles; Bettye and I count on them!


Warmest regards,
Trish & Bettye
Yorkie Rescue Colorado

I believe in miracles too - and what you are doing is part of that! Thank you so much for all you are doing and working so tirelessly to find the answers for sweet Reese. Praise God for the generosity of those willing to make surgery possible. Praying for his healing.

Gingergirlsmom 12-01-2007 03:59 PM

Bettye and Trish,

Bless you for this decision. You are both amazing.

Does the little girl know yet? I remember how close I was to my dogs as a child...this is a wonderful gift to her.

kalina82 12-01-2007 04:04 PM

simply wonderful.

when do you plan on giving the dog back to the family? there is a lot of after care involved with a fracture repair surgery, plus bandages changes (if they keep a splint on) which cost money each time with most places. And then there are x-rays that are usually taken at 2 months post-op.

where is reece's fracture?

bettyeanne 12-01-2007 06:22 PM

Sorry for the delay ....
 
We have been so excited/stressed today ... I am still trying to absorb everything that has happened! ;)
kalina82 ... the only thing I know for certain is that his little right leg is broken & it broke two bones. I will know more details on Monday. Unfortunately, we do know the follow-up that will be required. We would really like to give him back by Christmas eve but everything hinges on what we learn from the vet. Because of the care involved, he may need to stay in foster longer than that ... we will just have to follow the vet's instructions on the timeline.
Gingergirlsmom ... Trish told the Dad and he literally burst into tears ... he certainly didn't ask and never expected this. When they tearfully said goodbye to little Reese, they never expected to see him again. We just left it up to him when to tell the child. I kinda hope that he went on & told her today. It breaks my heart to think that she has to suffer/grieve one minute longer than necessary!
Tatiana11 ... Thank you so much! I would love to take him to Alameda! They have the most impressive doctors/hospital I have ever seen! We took Toto there 2-3 yrs. ago for every test that could be done. We knew that there was nothing wrong with her, I was just so paranoid about every tiny little thing that I read about, Patrick wanted me to be able to relax and enjoy her! They were absolutely wonderful ... and, pronounced her just perfect inside/out ... she was just about 2 lbs. overweight, which she still is! :rolleyes:
livingdustmops ... thank you so much for your support/advice and especially for your humor! Sometimes you just need a good laugh to keep from crying! BTW ... I have been wearing "Big Girls" for longer than I care to remember sometimes!! :p Trish & I have shed enough tears this week to last us for some time to come.

All of you just can't imagine what your advice/support means to us! We know it's going to be a struggle for some time to come for our rescue to be able to handle every situation that comes along. So far, we have had a miracle every time a situation looks so impossible or a Yorkie baby seems too old, sick or seemingly unloveable by anyone but us ... there has always been someone with a heart of gold that sees them as we do. God bless every one of you that "gets it" ... it's a very special gift that not everyone has!

bettyeanne 12-01-2007 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by yorkiesmiles (Post 1570951)
I believe in miracles too - and what you are doing is part of that! Thank you so much for all you are doing and working so tirelessly to find the answers for sweet Reese. Praise God for the generosity of those willing to make surgery possible. Praying for his healing.

Thank you so much for your prayers!! We know that what we do sometimes makes no sense even to us but in the end, we know why things happen the way they do!

kalina82 12-01-2007 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by bettyeanne (Post 1571576)
We have been so excited/stressed today ... I am still trying to absorb everything that has happened! ;)
kalina82 ... the only thing I know for certain is that his little right leg is broken & it broke two bones. I will know more details on Monday. Unfortunately, we do know the follow-up that will be required. We would really like to give him back by Christmas eve but everything hinges on what we learn from the vet. Because of the care involved, he may need to stay in foster longer than that ... we will just have to follow the vet's instructions on the timeline.

two bones? so its a front leg that's broken? its probably his radius and ulna then. its a pretty common break. The Chi that i was fostering broke these bones. She had a really old fracture as well (older then your guy). The surgeon i work for fixed her leg with a plate and screws and then she was confined to a crate for two months. With an old fracture you really really really need to be strict with the confinement if you want them to heal properly. With this fracture there is usually a bandage on for 4-6 weeks as well, and these need to be changed every 1-2 weeks.

like i said, i work for a veterinary orthopedic surgeon so if you have ANY questions let me know and ill try to help you out. i see broken bones every day.

bettyeanne 12-01-2007 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by kalina82 (Post 1571600)
two bones? so its a front leg that's broken? its probably his radius and ulna then. its a pretty common break. The Chi that i was fostering broke these bones. She had a really old fracture as well (older then your guy). The surgeon i work for fixed her leg with a plate and screws and then she was confined to a crate for two months. With an old fracture you really really really need to be strict with the confinement if you want them to heal properly. With this fracture there is usually a bandage on for 4-6 weeks as well, and these need to be changed every 1-2 weeks.

like i said, i work for a veterinary orthopedic surgeon so if you have ANY questions let me know and ill try to help you out. i see broken bones every day.

Thank you so much. I think what I understood was right rear leg and two bones broken. I'm not that familiar with bones but will find out more on Monday. It may be that he has to stay in foster longer but we won't release him until it's safe. I am noting your info and believe me we will be contacting you ... any info/advice we can get to help this little guy will surely be appreciated! Thank you again!


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