[News] Dog fatally mauls baby in Bourbonnais

[Lou]

Originally Posted by doglvrfrombirth

The mother and father are long time friends of mine. I've been friends with the mother for 21 years and the father for 13. This is a tragedy that we ALL are dealing with. I have not once been disrespectful to anyone here. I also haven't criticized "your friends" for discussing the issue, but I guess it's OK for "your friends" to criticize my friend for a situation that they know nothing about, right? Hypocracy at it's best. I won't be back. Thanks for flagging me. I'll leave you with this....when you point a finger at someone, just remember, you have three fingers pointing back at you. And, continue to criticize and say mean, hurtful, hateful things because karma.....she rears her ugly head when you least expect it. Have great lives and pray that you are never the victims of such harsh, unwarranted words.

I'm sorry you are upset, and I'm not the one that flagged you if you were flagged. But please tell me what kind of karma allows for an innocent child to be killed due to a lapse in judgement? And since when does calling a person a hypocrite stop qualifying as criticism? I hope you and your friends will be able to cope with your loss. I feel very badly for the family.

[ARCHIE]

Originally Posted by mscat

Please remember that this is the way people feel and are opinions. Nobody was mean or harsh. I understand that you would rather have people feel bad for the family and show compassion in every post. That is not going to happen. I am sorry that you are hurt. However, coming onto YT and attacking everybody for their opinions is not what this site is all about.
I totally agree that this is a tragedy for the family. It is heartbreaking beyond words to lose a infant . I love little ones and know how things can change in a blink of an eye in a parents life.
I will still stand by my opinion though , however, I honestly feel great sorrow for the family. I am a parent and use to teach, for 20 years other people's little babies and young children.
I am an advocate for children and it never ceases to amaze me what can happen to our precious babies .
Not everyone is going to agree about this tragedy. It did not need to happen, and I do feel like it was preventable. Even if I knew the family or if it was family, I'd still feel the same way.
Not trying to be mean or disrespectful . I know a parent can never be to cautious especially with newborns.
It must be hard for you to see it from other people's perspectives, but trying to argue about it to everyone who does not agree is pointless.
May the family find peace and comfort at this time of sorrow.

That was beautifully written and I think speaks for all of us who have
the same feelings.
My heart goes out to this family.

[doglvrfrombirth]

OK, I guess we all need to come to some understanding and get one thing straight....I did not attack anyone on here. When I posted words of "people on here" or "those of you" or phrases of that nature, I was directing that towards those who made comments of......no one should feel sorry for the parents, the mother is to blame, etc. I started posting to point out the fact that it is not in good nature to blame the mother for a tragedy like this. Yes, we are all entitled to our own opinions, and yes, this is something that could have been prevented. But, none of us were in the house when this happened, so who are we to say anything? The parents are VERY good friends of mine, we have all been grieving and crying for days now. Of course she blames herself......what mother wouldn't?? But, to turn this around and accuse me of attacking anyone on here or inflaming or criticizing is ridiculous! I have been nothing but respectful of everyone's feelings, even when I don't agree with them. I'm not telling any of you to NOT feel the way you do, but where is your compassion in life? A mother just lost the life of her baby daughter, and is also losing her beloved pet. Yes, there are situations in life that we can all go back and say...."if he/she/they/we/us/I would have done things differently"......but does that help the situation any? NO! What's done is done. There is no turning back, there is no bringing that precious little girl back into everyone's lives, there is no bringing the beloved husky back home. I was merely trying to point out that all of the facts aren't out yet, and to immediately say the terrible things that have been said is just not right. This could have been you! And I wanted those saying those things to stop for a split second and think about all of the situations in their lives where something tragic could have happened. Thank God for you that it didn't. Have sympathy and compassion for those that did suffer tragedy. Those hurtful comments were criticizing the mother, my friend. I, however, did not criticize anyone...and to say that I did, while agreeing with or backing up the ones that made criticizing comments toward the mother is hypocritical.

I've been nothing but respectful here, even to those who said such terrible things about my friend. But, to attack me now, while trying to back up your friends.....well, that's hypocritical too. Because that's exactly what I was on here doing, defending my friend's honor that was being trashed by certain individuals. This woman is beside herself right now with grief and sorrow. Do any of you on here have to hold up your friend while she buries her baby? NO!! But, think about that possibility before you make more hurtful comments.

I agree with those of you saying this was preventable. Most things in life are. And precautions were taken to prevent this, but we don't know how the dog got into the room!!!!!!! She most certainly did not open up the bedroom door, call the dog in and then leave the room. In that case, SHE IS TO BLAME! But, that is NOT what happened!

My words have already been twisted and taken out of context. I'm not wasting anymore of my energy here. Those of you that have those hateful opinions, they are yours....to keep. Hold on to them....see if they do you any good in life.

[Lou]

Originally Posted by doglvrfrombirth

I'm not wasting anymore of my energy here. Those of you that have those hateful opinions, they are yours....to keep. Hold on to them....see if they do you any good in life.

See ya!

[YORKIE_mom_2008]

Originally Posted by Lou

See ya!

wow. This site has sunk pretty low.

[Mybabyboymax]

Its really sad that members of YT have treated this situation as well as the new member that posted that knows this family. You know i dont get how a mother loses her child and you guys say the things you do. Seriously, there have been members here that have lost their yorkie, whether it be by the dog running away because they left the door open, or other reasons and what do they receive from members? Compassion, condolences and a shoulder to lean on. Do you guys go blaming the owner for the dog getting lost, or hit by a car? no....so why treat people this way? This thread was such a disappointment, and shows peoples true colors.

[yorkiesmiles]

Originally Posted by doglvrfrombirth

OK, I guess we all need to come to some understanding and get one thing straight....I did not attack anyone on here. When I posted words of "people on here" or "those of you" or phrases of that nature, I was directing that towards those who made comments of......no one should feel sorry for the parents, the mother is to blame, etc. I started posting to point out the fact that it is not in good nature to blame the mother for a tragedy like this. Yes, we are all entitled to our own opinions, and yes, this is something that could have been prevented. But, none of us were in the house when this happened, so who are we to say anything? The parents are VERY good friends of mine, we have all been grieving and crying for days now. Of course she blames herself......what mother wouldn't?? But, to turn this around and accuse me of attacking anyone on here or inflaming or criticizing is ridiculous! I have been nothing but respectful of everyone's feelings, even when I don't agree with them. I'm not telling any of you to NOT feel the way you do, but where is your compassion in life? A mother just lost the life of her baby daughter, and is also losing her beloved pet. Yes, there are situations in life that we can all go back and say...."if he/she/they/we/us/I would have done things differently"......but does that help the situation any? NO! What's done is done. There is no turning back, there is no bringing that precious little girl back into everyone's lives, there is no bringing the beloved husky back home. I was merely trying to point out that all of the facts aren't out yet, and to immediately say the terrible things that have been said is just not right. This could have been you! And I wanted those saying those things to stop for a split second and think about all of the situations in their lives where something tragic could have happened. Thank God for you that it didn't. Have sympathy and compassion for those that did suffer tragedy. Those hurtful comments were criticizing the mother, my friend. I, however, did not criticize anyone...and to say that I did, while agreeing with or backing up the ones that made criticizing comments toward the mother is hypocritical.

I've been nothing but respectful here, even to those who said such terrible things about my friend. But, to attack me now, while trying to back up your friends.....well, that's hypocritical too. Because that's exactly what I was on here doing, defending my friend's honor that was being trashed by certain individuals. This woman is beside herself right now with grief and sorrow. Do any of you on here have to hold up your friend while she buries her baby? NO!! But, think about that possibility before you make more hurtful comments.

I agree with those of you saying this was preventable. Most things in life are. And precautions were taken to prevent this, but we don't know how the dog got into the room!!!!!!! She most certainly did not open up the bedroom door, call the dog in and then leave the room. In that case, SHE IS TO BLAME! But, that is NOT what happened!

My words have already been twisted and taken out of context. I'm not wasting anymore of my energy here. Those of you that have those hateful opinions, they are yours....to keep. Hold on to them....see if they do you any good in life.

I am sorry that you have been hurt. I am sorry for your friend. But I do not think seeking out forums to post your views on & attacking members here is helpful to you or any of us.

You say you have been respectful - well I respectfully disagree. You have driven this thread and it's tone, critiquing & taking apart the words of others.

I disagree that people are hateful here - YT is filled with loving members. But like anywhere else you would go, we have our opinions. Would the words be different if this had happened to one of our members? Most likely - those who would put responsibility on the parent, probably wouldn't say that if she was a member here. Tongues would be held. There would be a lot of "I'm sorry, praying for you."

But this thread was posted as news - people comment. Just like when a story is placed on a newspaper website. It's that simple. (Have you ever read comments on a newspaper website? That will surely raise the blood pressure of the most laid back person even when the issue isn't controversial - because all it takes is one person to turn it controversial.)

It's too bad you chose to spend your time of grief this way. It's too bad that you only joined our forum to argue on this issue. Wonder how many other forums you have done the same thing to. Please find a constructive way to deal with your grief and offer some time and comfort to your old friends

[Lou]

New members should be yorkie owners or potential yorkie owners don't you think?

And I resent being quoted as an example of how "This site has sunk pretty low." I, just like others in this thread,have had enough of this person coming on here just to bash us. If you say you are leaving then leave. Don't keep posting. I repeat that we have opinions and express them here. Anyone that thinks or says that any of us have no compassion for the family of this baby are mistaken. We do. I feel horrible for everyone involved....Except the one that is trying to stir up trouble.

And knowing that doglvrfrombirth is still lurking about I suggest that she call the Daily Journal and offer them the information she is supposedly privy to. Get it all out in the open and maybe that will stop speculation.
You can be anonymous as a "close friend of the family." We STILL don't have the whole story from you or anyone else do we.

I deeply regret being rude to anyone on this site and apologize for offending, however my opinions remain the same and my defense of my friends is unwavering.

[AvyQuinn]

Found this tid-bit online this afternoon. Been trying to follow the story - here's the link for others interested as well.

Web exclusive -- Police still waiting to interview baby's family - The Daily Journal

[Cares4Dogs]

AS a mother and a dog owner...I am sicked by some of the responses here pointing the fingers of blame and neglect. What kind of mother leaves an infant on a bed alone??? Hundreds of thousands including ME!!! These were new parents of TWINS!!! How many of you are parents of twins? Newborn babies cannot roll over or scoot. Many many many people do at some point, place a baby in the middle of a large bed to nap. Especially if the bed is closer to which room your planning on being in at nap time.

Mothers and fathers have to EAT....they DO have to shower, pee, poo, cook &.....they do have to sleep!!!!

How many of you that are over-analyzing and being overly critical were parents that NEVER took their eyes off their baby?? Did you not cook? did you not shower? did you not sleep?

Most infants usually room-in with their parents until they are old enough to be in their own room. Most infants dont even use their cribs as newborns.....they use bassinettes, which a dog could EASILY get into!! Does that make a neglectful parent?? Certainly does not. These people had only been parents a few weeks....give them a BREAK!!!

Accidents happen and thats exactly what this is--accident!!

MY gosh-i just cannot believe this harsh criticism. I hope and pray that these parents never find their way to this message board. They are going through the worst kind of grief that a parent could ever suffer through. Do you not think they are beating themselves up over this??? Im 100% certain they are!! They have to live with this everyday for the rest of their lives!! Com'on people!!! It was a terrible accident. AS with all accidents--hind sight is always 20/20.

Let me guess-if these parents decided to re-home their dogs before their twins were born-ya'll would have torn them up over that too??

Let those without sin cast the first stone!!! Judgementals need to get over themselves cuz nobody is perfect and everyone makes mistakes.

[YORKIE_mom_2008]

Originally Posted by Cares4Dogs

AS a mother and a dog owner...I am sicked by some of the responses here pointing the fingers of blame and neglect. What kind of mother leaves an infant on a bed alone??? Hundreds of thousands including ME!!! These were new parents of TWINS!!! How many of you are parents of twins? Newborn babies cannot roll over or scoot. Many many many people do at some point, place a baby in the middle of a large bed to nap. Especially if the bed is closer to which room your planning on being in at nap time.

Mothers and fathers have to EAT....they DO have to shower, pee, poo, cook &.....they do have to sleep!!!!

How many of you that are over-analyzing and being overly critical were parents that NEVER took their eyes off their baby?? Did you not cook? did you not shower? did you not sleep?

Most infants usually room-in with their parents until they are old enough to be in their own room. Most infants dont even use their cribs as newborns.....they use bassinettes, which a dog could EASILY get into!! Does that make a neglectful parent?? Certainly does not. These people had only been parents a few weeks....give them a BREAK!!!

Accidents happen and thats exactly what this is--accident!!

MY gosh-i just cannot believe this harsh criticism. I hope and pray that these parents never find their way to this message board. They are going through the worst kind of grief that a parent could ever suffer through. Do you not think they are beating themselves up over this??? Im 100% certain they are!! They have to live with this everyday for the rest of their lives!! Com'on people!!! It was a terrible accident. AS with all accidents--hind sight is always 20/20.

Let me guess-if these parents decided to re-home their dogs before their twins were born-ya'll would have torn them up over that too??

Let those without sin cast the first stone!!! Judgementals need to get over themselves cuz nobody is perfect and everyone makes mistakes.

Very very well posted! I agree 110%!

[chachi]

This is a news story and people are going to give opinions and they may not be the same as someone elses but why attack someone because their opinion. I agree that the Mother shouldnt have left the babies on the bed. I feel bad for everyone involved

[Mybabyboymax]

Originally Posted by Cares4Dogs

AS a mother and a dog owner...I am sicked by some of the responses here pointing the fingers of blame and neglect. What kind of mother leaves an infant on a bed alone??? Hundreds of thousands including ME!!! These were new parents of TWINS!!! How many of you are parents of twins? Newborn babies cannot roll over or scoot. Many many many people do at some point, place a baby in the middle of a large bed to nap. Especially if the bed is closer to which room your planning on being in at nap time.

Mothers and fathers have to EAT....they DO have to shower, pee, poo, cook &.....they do have to sleep!!!!

How many of you that are over-analyzing and being overly critical were parents that NEVER took their eyes off their baby?? Did you not cook? did you not shower? did you not sleep?

Most infants usually room-in with their parents until they are old enough to be in their own room. Most infants dont even use their cribs as newborns.....they use bassinettes, which a dog could EASILY get into!! Does that make a neglectful parent?? Certainly does not. These people had only been parents a few weeks....give them a BREAK!!!

Accidents happen and thats exactly what this is--accident!!

MY gosh-i just cannot believe this harsh criticism. I hope and pray that these parents never find their way to this message board. They are going through the worst kind of grief that a parent could ever suffer through. Do you not think they are beating themselves up over this??? Im 100% certain they are!! They have to live with this everyday for the rest of their lives!! Com'on people!!! It was a terrible accident. AS with all accidents--hind sight is always 20/20.

Let me guess-if these parents decided to re-home their dogs before their twins were born-ya'll would have torn them up over that too??

Let those without sin cast the first stone!!! Judgementals need to get over themselves cuz nobody is perfect and everyone makes mistakes.

couldn't have said it better myself

[mscat]

Originally Posted by chachi

This is a news story and people are going to give opinions and they may not be the same as someone elses but why attack someone because their opinion. I agree that the Mother shouldnt have left the babies on the bed. I feel bad for everyone involved

It is too bad some people just can't respect the way others feel, and have different opinions on such a heated news story, that's shameful.

[txshopper73]

So sad and tragic. My prayers go out to these parents and their family members.