Hills S/D

[adiben]

My Yorkie has struvite crystals and has been put on 3 months of Hills S/D.

In three days she is already looking heavier since corn starch is the second ingredient.
Is there a better food out there?

If I give her an apple slice or carrot, will this mess up the chemistry of what the S/D is doing? She is always famished with this crappy canned dog food.

Thank you

[marcerella02]

Originally Posted by adiben

My Yorkie has struvite crystals and has been put on 3 months of Hills S/D.

In three days she is already looking heavier since corn starch is the second ingredient.
Is there a better food out there?

If I give her an apple slice or carrot, will this mess up the chemistry of what the S/D is doing? She is always famished with this crappy canned dog food.

Thank you

ya the Hills SD is crap. Does your dog have urinary stones??? if you can get back to me on that i can let you know a more natural way to help her if you want i jsut got this great book last week about natural ways to help our pups and i can let you know what foods to avoid and what foods to emphasize

[adiben]

Originally Posted by marcerella02

ya the Hills SD is crap. Does your dog have urinary stones??? if you can get back to me on that i can let you know a more natural way to help her if you want i jsut got this great book last week about natural ways to help our pups and i can let you know what foods to avoid and what foods to emphasize

No not urinary stones, struvite crystals and vaginal infections of two kinds.
Please help!

[Morkie4]

Originally Posted by marcerella02

ya the Hills SD is crap. Does your dog have urinary stones??? if you can get back to me on that i can let you know a more natural way to help her if you want i jsut got this great book last week about natural ways to help our pups and i can let you know what foods to avoid and what foods to emphasize

What is the name of this "great book" you got last week??? I would like to look into it and see some of the suggestions. Thanks

[adiben]

Originally Posted by Morkie4

What is the name of this "great book" you got last week??? I would like to look into it and see some of the suggestions. Thanks

yes...would also like name of this book and waiting to hear from marcerella02 regarding what she thinks about struvite crystals.

Angel and Diva

[JeanieK]

When the vet put her on science diet, did he tell you which ingredient that he was trying to avoid.

What were you feeding?

I feed Royal Canin

Here is a link to their online book on the yorkshire terrier specific food.

http://www.royalcanin.us/dogfood/yorkshirebook.html

This next link has other links that you can click on for more information. The video is worth watching just to see the yorkies.

http://www.royalcanin.us/dogfood/yorkshire.html

[adiben]

[QUOTE=JeanieK;1301416]When the vet put her on science diet, did he tell you which ingredient that he was trying to avoid.

What were you feeding?

Since she has strvite crystals and vaginal infections vet wants her on this S/D crap for three months.

We were home feeding her low protein diet with probiotics and veggies because diva is a Liver Shunt survivor. had surgury in '02.

The royal canine looks great but the protein content is very very high for liver challenged yorkies.

Angel and Diva

[JeanieK]

OK I understand.

I guess I'd ask the vet why he wants her on that food. What there is or isn't in it that makes it help with they crystals.

[QUOTE=adiben;1301501]

Originally Posted by JeanieK

When the vet put her on science diet, did he tell you which ingredient that he was trying to avoid.

What were you feeding?

Since she has strvite crystals and vaginal infections vet wants her on this S/D crap for three months.

We were home feeding her low protein diet with probiotics and veggies because diva is a Liver Shunt survivor. had surgury in '02.

The royal canine looks great but the protein content is very very high for liver challenged yorkies.

Angel and Diva

[marcerella02]

The book i just got is The Complete Holistic Dog Book. I wrote a review on it in the product review section

when i look up Struvite Crystals it brings me to struvite stones... so sadly... i'm not sure i'm much help.

[adiben]

Originally Posted by marcerella02

The book i just got is The Complete Holistic Dog Book. I wrote a review on it in the product review section

when i look up Struvite Crystals it brings me to struvite stones... so sadly... i'm not sure i'm much help.

This book is quite dated, nearly 5 years old.
In terms of struvite vs stones, is there a difference?
I too keep getting bladder stones when I search google for struvite crystals.

stumped

[marcerella02]

Originally Posted by adiben

This book is quite dated, nearly 5 years old.
In terms of struvite vs stones, is there a difference?
I too keep getting bladder stones when I search google for struvite crystals.

stumped

i didn't say this was a new book.. just a good one ... and does it matter?? regardless of how old it is it has some great home remedies...

[adiben]

Originally Posted by marcerella02

i didn't say this was a new book.. just a good one ... and does it matter?? regardless of how old it is it has some great home remedies...

You're right.
Found it used on amazon for $15

[Ichabob]

when Ichabob was a dibetic they put him on science diet W/D , like you I was not happy with the food, I did try other brands put ever time I switch him off of the W/D is sugar would go sky high. I eneded up leaving him on it for 2yrs, his sugar stay in the normal range, he did great. he was on Innova before his dibetic problems, but have you notice that when ever a dog has a problems they always put them on S/D. My daughter dog has been on S/D ID his entire life he was a shelter dog with digestion problems She try others food too but they don't seem to help for long he back at the vets . Ichabob passed this past march not from his illiness but from a freak accident.
I really don't know about S/D food I jsut know it work for him. My old vet did not sell any food but insisted he be on S/D.
It's hard to know the right thing to do.

[Yorkiedaze]

Originally Posted by adiben

My Yorkie has struvite crystals and has been put on 3 months of Hills S/D.

In three days she is already looking heavier since corn starch is the second ingredient.
Is there a better food out there?

If I give her an apple slice or carrot, will this mess up the chemistry of what the S/D is doing? She is always famished with this crappy canned dog food.

Thank you

Bladder infection, if present, is treated as for cystitis. In many cases the stones can be dissolved over weeks or months by feeding the dog a special diet. Struvite stones dissolve in an acid urine low in magnesium and protein, accomplished by feeding Hill's Prescription Diet s/d. Uric acid stones respond to a low purine diet (Hill's u/d, along with drugs that dissolve cystine. There are no available methods for dissolving calcium oxalate and silica stones.

I'm sure there is an all natural "real" food diet that is even better that Hill's that will do a better job, but you would have to ask a nutritionist about that or a Holistic Vet.

[Yorkiedaze]

Maybe this site can help you find an Holistic approach.

http://www.holisticvetpetcare.com/