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luvdorkyyorkies · 08-22-2006, 04:57 AM

Breny,

Have you tried "HONEY" added to the formula? I switched from nutri-drops to honey at about 5 weeks, Joker started improving. In fact during the time he was having hypoglycemia attacks, the honey was much quicker to bring him out of his stupor then the nutrical. I think because its absorbed into the body so quickly. He also loved the taste of it in the formula. It wasnt long after that he happily lapped the formula with honey from a cup. This really made him gain weight. (try watering the formula down a bit to make it very liquid and add honey. Joker was not interested in thick formula. he also liked it lukewarm, but would drink it cooler later) Wasnt long after that he ate mighty dog and lil cesars along with the milkshake. Now he is totally weaned to dry food, with an occasional treat.
I just weighed him and he weighs 1 lb 6 ozs, hes lost about an oz here in the last week, but Im okay with it, because on his tiny frame, he was getting to heavy with all the rich formula and food all the time. He also is spending more and more time running throught out the house. I really dont think he will make 2 lbs as an adult.
Hope the honey does the trick!!! You might even invest in a commerical formula to save yourself from making the homemade stuff now. That is if Tia will drink it. Good luck!

luvdorkyyorkies · 08-22-2006, 05:53 AM

Breny,
I thought of something I didnt think to mention before.
Try offering Tia formula in a cup right at chin level, where she only has to just stick her tongue out to lap. Either with a cup right at at size or elevate it. When Joker was first introduced to the cup it had to be right at his level, without lowering his head for the first week or so, or he didnt lap it.
I know it sounds kinda silly, but positioning was really important to him. Anything is worth a try!

ehunney · 08-22-2006, 07:19 AM

Just checking for an update on Tia and Joker! I hope tia starts gaining weight, she such a little fiesty thing though, I love it! her pictures always make me smile

. And I love Joker so much

.My family and I check this thread for an update on him every morning. Then my sister calls me during the day to see if he's still okay. I LOVE these little guys so much

I wanted to thank you 2 again for taking care of these little ones, when no one else would of!!!You guys are the best

luvdorkyyorkies · 08-23-2006, 06:11 AM

Poor Joker!!!!

Breny I think I have been talking to you to much.....lol...........I have gave Joker a haircut and he now looks like a chi, not a cute chi like yours but one with really bad hair!..............hee hee. My husband came home last night and had the funniest serious look on his face and asked "what did you do to Joker?" Well the haircut was really bad and I knew it, it struck me funny and I didnt think I would ever stop laughing! Gess I need to get out more. And I need grooming lessons! Im just terrible. Thank God its not permanent and will grow. I have attached a picture, its kinda blurry, but you can get the idea. If you look close though you can see a pink area under his nose, thats his cleft lip showing. Im gonna give him a fresh bath and try to fluff his burr haircut today, not much to fluff. I thought he had short legs until I cut his hair off, now they look like a tiny race horse's legs. I cut his hair because he goes bananas when you comb him and if he has the slightest tangle, he squeels, falls over, tries to gum you to death, howls and does a burn out trying to get away from you. Then my daughter starts crying because she thinks Im hurting him, then my son cries because Jilly cries. Now Im crying cause Joker looks hysterical now........lol

How is Tia doing today? Hope she hasnt lost any more weight. I think about her alot, pretty much everytime I look at Joker. Its so nice to have a friend to talk too.

Hi Ehunny, Joker is pretty much like any yorkie puppy, full of antics for entertainment, into mischief any chance he gets. Eats very well. Only thing I notice is if he plays really hard, which is all the time......he whistles a bit thru his nose, he is having some closure at this cleft and the nasal passage is narrowed some, so he whistles Dixie alot

Doesnt seem to bother him in the least. Joker sends your family love and crooked puppy kisses! Thank you for caring about him and being his extended family

Dont laugh at his picture........lol

Sadie's Mom · 08-23-2006, 06:19 AM

awwwwwwwwww...he still looks cute!!!

Breny · 08-23-2006, 07:10 AM

I posted you a very long message yesterday and my stupid work computer lost it!!!!! I'm sorry - I'll have to repost it. Noooooooo - never too many messages. I love it! Keep them coming! Joker looks sooo cute! Tia is the same. SKINNY. She's hard to weigh cuz she moves all over making the scale off., but still 11 oz. She has lost some grams.

I got some Hills A/D from my Vet. Blended it and tried the syringe. It went "ok" but yesterday (with the help of Zoey cuz she kepted licking her face making her mouth open) I was able to get in about 4 cc's of the A/D. Then I figured I'd start trying it when I feed her. She always ends up falling to sleep so when she falls to sleep I pop some in her mouth. She doesn't like the syringe so I have to be sneaky. She loves her bottle though. I seen some bottles made for babies at Walgreens made for introducing babies to food. The nipple is larger to pass baby food thru. Maybe I should try them and start blending her food for her and see if she'll take it that way. I just talked myself into that one!

She just isn't interested in eating on her own. Its very frustrating!

I wanted to ask about the honey. How much do I use? Does honey have alot of calories? The formula I make has a little karo surup in it. Just a little. The reason I make the formula is because its said to have 11 calories per cc vrs 1 calorie per 1 cc with the canned formulas. So I make it for that reason. I posted the recipe before but if you want to know whats in it let me know.

My vet is interested in seeing her. But I know he's already thinking surgery. I don't want to go that route if she'll be fine. He said that with it being in the back (the solf palate) thats that the best place to have it if theres going to be one. ??? I just don't know anything about them (cleft palates) so I just have no clue! Will the soft palate close up as well? I've emailed the hennwood Kennels but they never emailed me back.

How old is Joker again? Did his head seem big for his body? Tia's does

I think becasue she's so skinny. I just want that girl to gain some weight!!! I appreciate all the advice you've been giving me. It really really does help. I look everyday for your replies, more than once a day!!!! Always eager to hear from you!

And to everyone else following. THANKS SO MUCH for your support! It means sooooo much. I appreciate it all.

ehunney · 08-23-2006, 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luvdorkyyorkies

Poor Joker!!!!

Breny I think I have been talking to you to much.....lol...........I have gave Joker a haircut and he now looks like a chi, not a cute chi like yours but one with really bad hair!..............hee hee. My husband came home last night and had the funniest serious look on his face and asked "what did you do to Joker?" Well the haircut was really bad and I knew it, it struck me funny and I didnt think I would ever stop laughing! Gess I need to get out more. And I need grooming lessons! Im just terrible. Thank God its not permanent and will grow. I have attached a picture, its kinda blurry, but you can get the idea. If you look close though you can see a pink area under his nose, thats his cleft lip showing. Im gonna give him a fresh bath and try to fluff his burr haircut today, not much to fluff. I thought he had short legs until I cut his hair off, now they look like a tiny race horse's legs. I cut his hair because he goes bananas when you comb him and if he has the slightest tangle, he squeels, falls over, tries to gum you to death, howls and does a burn out trying to get away from you. Then my daughter starts crying because she thinks Im hurting him, then my son cries because Jilly cries. Now Im crying cause Joker looks hysterical now........lol

How is Tia doing today? Hope she hasnt lost any more weight. I think about her alot, pretty much everytime I look at Joker. Its so nice to have a friend to talk too.

Hi Ehunny, Joker is pretty much like any yorkie puppy, full of antics for entertainment, into mischief any chance he gets. Eats very well. Only thing I notice is if he plays really hard, which is all the time......he whistles a bit thru his nose, he is having some closure at this cleft and the nasal passage is narrowed some, so he whistles Dixie alot

Doesnt seem to bother him in the least. Joker sends your family love and crooked puppy kisses! Thank you for caring about him and being his extended family

Dont laugh at his picture........lol

LOL! Oh no!haha! even with his chi cute, he stiill looks adorable though

I would love to hear his little whistle, haha! Awww I adore little Joker so much!Thanks for considering us extended family, it's an honor

Breny · 08-23-2006, 11:36 AM

Well today on my luch I went and purchased whats called "SASSY Baby Food Nurser Kit - Introduce Baby Food through familiar bottle feeding.

All I can do is try it!

Breny · 08-23-2006, 07:43 PM

There are two that she's sitting in my 8 yr olds lap and the others ones she is in my husbands hand.

Sadie's Mom · 08-23-2006, 09:17 PM

she's such a cutie!

ehunney · 08-24-2006, 08:55 AM

Just checking in to see how Tia and Joker are doing. OMGosh! I just saw tia's picture, and she is adorable! Awwwwwwww she's a cuite pie!

sshaw · 08-24-2006, 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Breny

Well this is Tia. I took them last night

Still praying for Joker and Tia, they are both just soooo cute! I love they.

sshaw · 08-24-2006, 10:04 AM

Tia is so adorable and looks so lost in that big bed! You are doing such an amazing job.

sshaw · 08-24-2006, 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Breny

There are two that she's sitting in my 8 yr olds lap and the others ones she is in my husbands hand.

Oh my gosh, she looks like a little bunny rabbit! She is just so cute.

Again, keep up the good work, we all love her and joker so very much.

ehunney · 08-24-2006, 10:19 AM

Any updates to how these 2 sweethearts are doing? Well I hope! I'm sending hugs to you guys

08-22-2006, 07:19 AM	#63
ehunney Princess Bella Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: virginia Posts: 2,186	Just checking for an update on Tia and Joker! I hope tia starts gaining weight, she such a little fiesty thing though, I love it! her pictures always make me smile . And I love Joker so much .My family and I check this thread for an update on him every morning. Then my sister calls me during the day to see if he's still okay. I LOVE these little guys so much I wanted to thank you 2 again for taking care of these little ones, when no one else would of!!!You guys are the best __________________ I miss you two more then words can express, but I still have hope that I'll find you and hold you again! Tucker and Teddy always say: "If I want it, it's mine and if I put it in my mouth, it's food."

08-23-2006, 06:19 AM	#65
Sadie's Mom Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Irving, TX Posts: 3,180	awwwwwwwwww...he still looks cute!!! __________________ Christie and Sadie

08-23-2006, 07:10 AM	#66
Breny My Tiny Treasures Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: . Posts: 11,790 Blog Entries: 3	I posted you a very long message yesterday and my stupid work computer lost it!!!!! I'm sorry - I'll have to repost it. Noooooooo - never too many messages. I love it! Keep them coming! Joker looks sooo cute! Tia is the same. SKINNY. She's hard to weigh cuz she moves all over making the scale off., but still 11 oz. She has lost some grams. I got some Hills A/D from my Vet. Blended it and tried the syringe. It went "ok" but yesterday (with the help of Zoey cuz she kepted licking her face making her mouth open) I was able to get in about 4 cc's of the A/D. Then I figured I'd start trying it when I feed her. She always ends up falling to sleep so when she falls to sleep I pop some in her mouth. She doesn't like the syringe so I have to be sneaky. She loves her bottle though. I seen some bottles made for babies at Walgreens made for introducing babies to food. The nipple is larger to pass baby food thru. Maybe I should try them and start blending her food for her and see if she'll take it that way. I just talked myself into that one! She just isn't interested in eating on her own. Its very frustrating! I wanted to ask about the honey. How much do I use? Does honey have alot of calories? The formula I make has a little karo surup in it. Just a little. The reason I make the formula is because its said to have 11 calories per cc vrs 1 calorie per 1 cc with the canned formulas. So I make it for that reason. I posted the recipe before but if you want to know whats in it let me know. My vet is interested in seeing her. But I know he's already thinking surgery. I don't want to go that route if she'll be fine. He said that with it being in the back (the solf palate) thats that the best place to have it if theres going to be one. ??? I just don't know anything about them (cleft palates) so I just have no clue! Will the soft palate close up as well? I've emailed the hennwood Kennels but they never emailed me back. How old is Joker again? Did his head seem big for his body? Tia's does I think becasue she's so skinny. I just want that girl to gain some weight!!! I appreciate all the advice you've been giving me. It really really does help. I look everyday for your replies, more than once a day!!!! Always eager to hear from you! And to everyone else following. THANKS SO MUCH for your support! It means sooooo much. I appreciate it all. __________________ http://Brenysbabies.com

08-23-2006, 11:36 AM	#68
Breny My Tiny Treasures Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: . Posts: 11,790 Blog Entries: 3	Well today on my luch I went and purchased whats called "SASSY Baby Food Nurser Kit - Introduce Baby Food through familiar bottle feeding. All I can do is try it! __________________ http://Brenysbabies.com

08-23-2006, 09:17 PM	#70
Sadie's Mom Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Irving, TX Posts: 3,180	she's such a cutie! __________________ Christie and Sadie

08-22-2006, 04:57 AM	#61
luvdorkyyorkies BANNED! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,681	Breny, Have you tried "HONEY" added to the formula? I switched from nutri-drops to honey at about 5 weeks, Joker started improving. In fact during the time he was having hypoglycemia attacks, the honey was much quicker to bring him out of his stupor then the nutrical. I think because its absorbed into the body so quickly. He also loved the taste of it in the formula. It wasnt long after that he happily lapped the formula with honey from a cup. This really made him gain weight. (try watering the formula down a bit to make it very liquid and add honey. Joker was not interested in thick formula. he also liked it lukewarm, but would drink it cooler later) Wasnt long after that he ate mighty dog and lil cesars along with the milkshake. Now he is totally weaned to dry food, with an occasional treat. I just weighed him and he weighs 1 lb 6 ozs, hes lost about an oz here in the last week, but Im okay with it, because on his tiny frame, he was getting to heavy with all the rich formula and food all the time. He also is spending more and more time running throught out the house. I really dont think he will make 2 lbs as an adult. Hope the honey does the trick!!! You might even invest in a commerical formula to save yourself from making the homemade stuff now. That is if Tia will drink it. Good luck!

08-22-2006, 05:53 AM	#62
luvdorkyyorkies BANNED! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,681	Breny, I thought of something I didnt think to mention before. Try offering Tia formula in a cup right at chin level, where she only has to just stick her tongue out to lap. Either with a cup right at at size or elevate it. When Joker was first introduced to the cup it had to be right at his level, without lowering his head for the first week or so, or he didnt lap it. I know it sounds kinda silly, but positioning was really important to him. Anything is worth a try!

08-24-2006, 08:55 AM	#71
ehunney Princess Bella Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: virginia Posts: 2,186	Just checking in to see how Tia and Joker are doing. OMGosh! I just saw tia's picture, and she is adorable! Awwwwwwww she's a cuite pie! __________________ I miss you two more then words can express, but I still have hope that I'll find you and hold you again! Tucker and Teddy always say: "If I want it, it's mine and if I put it in my mouth, it's food."

08-24-2006, 10:04 AM	#73
sshaw YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: vestal Posts: 1,289	Tia is so adorable and looks so lost in that big bed! You are doing such an amazing job.

08-24-2006, 10:19 AM	#75
ehunney Princess Bella Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: virginia Posts: 2,186	Any updates to how these 2 sweethearts are doing? Well I hope! I'm sending hugs to you guys __________________ I miss you two more then words can express, but I still have hope that I'll find you and hold you again! Tucker and Teddy always say: "If I want it, it's mine and if I put it in my mouth, it's food."