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yorky4ME · 03-20-2006, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by hockeymom

They can have cheerios, carrots, sweet potatoes, broccoli, green beans, cottage cheese, rice, a little plain pasta, yogert............just no animal protein. These foods can be fed either as a treat or mixed with the dogs regular food. the Science Diet L/d and K/d are usually what the vet will put them on.

Hockeymom got it right. My first yorkie had a liver shunt too. She was on a special and pretty much ate the Science Diet L/D. Where did you get your puppy? Do you have a genetic guarantee? Try to see if you can get the breeder to be responsible for it. It is a genetic defect. Good Luck!

Michelle Ford · 03-20-2006, 05:07 PM

My little Emmy was diagnosed with liver shunt 2/25/06 and had surgery at UT on 3/01/06 against my vet's advise. He wanted to keep her on a low protein diet and meds since he did not have much success with surgery. After researching and talking to people on the liver shunt chat group - I decided I did not want to keep a band aid on her problem--I wanted her fixed. It has been less than three weeks and Emmy is doing very well. She is getting stronger every day. I could see a difference in her two days after surgery. The people on the chat group have a lot os experience. If you have any questions--let me know.

Michelle

Kenneth · 03-21-2006, 12:09 PM

Thanks, Megan. We are giving her K/D now, and it seems to be working so far. We have been mixing a little meat in it to get her to eat it. Am I correct in saying that there are different degrees of this disease (some worse than others)? When we first got her we were unknowingly pouring the protein to her. She started wandering aimlessly around the walls of the room, and didn't have much coordination. But, after adjusting the diet, she seems to be doing okay. We would just like to have something else to give her, so her diet wouldn't be so boring. How is the U/D different from the K/D? Thanks for your reply.

Kenneth · 03-21-2006, 12:18 PM

Yorkieluv, thanks for your reply. Where could I find the Royal Canin? I have never heard of it. That might be an alternative.

Kenneth · 03-21-2006, 12:25 PM

Patti,

We first noticed that Gracie was acting like she was intoxicated. She was falling down and staggering. She was wandering around the walls of the room as if trying to find something. She seemed very restless and uncoordinated. I hope you get good news about yours.

Ken

megan_kat22 · 03-21-2006, 01:40 PM

Kenneth,
Yes I think there are different levels of this disease, especially since Tucker was diagnosed almost 2 years ago he has improved tremendously and doesn't even seem to have any signs of a shunt anymore. When we first got Tucker we changed his diet to a lamb & rice food and that is where the protein got to him. Also we had given him liver snap treats. Suddenly he would urinate all over the house and the urine was a dark blood red. He could not control himself and would strain a lot. And I have done some research and found that L/D and U/D are different because U/D has less fat. Tonight I'm going to compare U/D to K/D. I'll let you know what I find. You can go to hillspet.com and look at the ingredients and amounts if you wish. We have gone through many many many stages of this defect with Tucker, so if you have any more questions feel free to ask

Kenneth · 03-21-2006, 02:43 PM

Megan,

Thanks again. I will check the Hill's web site to see what I can find out.

Patti · 03-21-2006, 03:11 PM

Thanks Kenneth

Yorkieluv · 03-22-2006, 11:49 AM

Hi Kenneth,
I just want to make sure you know that if your furbaby has a shunt, it might not be good to put meat in her food. Protein is very harmful because protein turns to ammonia and when they have liver problems, the ammonia is not filtered and it goes into their system and reaches their brain and they have seizures..It can be very, very serious. Hopefully, you can find something else to mix in her food that she'll eat that's not meat. There were some good suggestions by other members. Good luck, and if you have any questions, please ask.
Here's a link that will explain portosystemic shunts very well: http://www.malteseonly.com/shunt2.html
I learned a lot from reading material online, and this is one of the best sites full of info on this topic.

03-21-2006, 01:40 PM	#21
megan_kat22 I love my boys! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Houston Posts: 1,913	Kenneth, Yes I think there are different levels of this disease, especially since Tucker was diagnosed almost 2 years ago he has improved tremendously and doesn't even seem to have any signs of a shunt anymore. When we first got Tucker we changed his diet to a lamb & rice food and that is where the protein got to him. Also we had given him liver snap treats. Suddenly he would urinate all over the house and the urine was a dark blood red. He could not control himself and would strain a lot. And I have done some research and found that L/D and U/D are different because U/D has less fat. Tonight I'm going to compare U/D to K/D. I'll let you know what I find. You can go to hillspet.com and look at the ingredients and amounts if you wish. We have gone through many many many stages of this defect with Tucker, so if you have any more questions feel free to ask __________________ -Megan, Tucker & Tripp "My little dogs- heartbeats at my feet" www.dropshots.com/megan_kat22

03-21-2006, 03:11 PM	#23
Patti Donating YT 30K Club Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 35,509 Blog Entries: 6	Thanks Kenneth __________________ Cali Pixie Roxie : RIP Nikki; RIP Maya;RIP my sweet Dixie girl 1/17/08 http://callipuppyscastle.bravehost.com/index.html

03-22-2006, 11:49 AM	#24
Yorkieluv Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: USA Posts: 7,178	Hi Kenneth, I just want to make sure you know that if your furbaby has a shunt, it might not be good to put meat in her food. Protein is very harmful because protein turns to ammonia and when they have liver problems, the ammonia is not filtered and it goes into their system and reaches their brain and they have seizures..It can be very, very serious. Hopefully, you can find something else to mix in her food that she'll eat that's not meat. There were some good suggestions by other members. Good luck, and if you have any questions, please ask. Here's a link that will explain portosystemic shunts very well: http://www.malteseonly.com/shunt2.html I learned a lot from reading material online, and this is one of the best sites full of info on this topic. __________________ Miko 's his Mommy

03-20-2006, 05:07 PM	#17
Michelle Ford YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Louisville Posts: 1	My little Emmy was diagnosed with liver shunt 2/25/06 and had surgery at UT on 3/01/06 against my vet's advise. He wanted to keep her on a low protein diet and meds since he did not have much success with surgery. After researching and talking to people on the liver shunt chat group - I decided I did not want to keep a band aid on her problem--I wanted her fixed. It has been less than three weeks and Emmy is doing very well. She is getting stronger every day. I could see a difference in her two days after surgery. The people on the chat group have a lot os experience. If you have any questions--let me know. Michelle

03-21-2006, 12:09 PM	#18
Kenneth YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 9	Thanks, Megan. We are giving her K/D now, and it seems to be working so far. We have been mixing a little meat in it to get her to eat it. Am I correct in saying that there are different degrees of this disease (some worse than others)? When we first got her we were unknowingly pouring the protein to her. She started wandering aimlessly around the walls of the room, and didn't have much coordination. But, after adjusting the diet, she seems to be doing okay. We would just like to have something else to give her, so her diet wouldn't be so boring. How is the U/D different from the K/D? Thanks for your reply.

03-21-2006, 12:18 PM	#19
Kenneth YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 9	Yorkieluv, thanks for your reply. Where could I find the Royal Canin? I have never heard of it. That might be an alternative.

03-21-2006, 12:25 PM	#20
Kenneth YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 9	Patti, We first noticed that Gracie was acting like she was intoxicated. She was falling down and staggering. She was wandering around the walls of the room as if trying to find something. She seemed very restless and uncoordinated. I hope you get good news about yours. Ken

03-21-2006, 02:43 PM	#22
Kenneth YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 9	Megan, Thanks again. I will check the Hill's web site to see what I can find out.