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Old 06-20-2018, 10:05 AM   #1
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Okay, so my dog was/is originally feeding on wellness simple salmon dry formula. But the little critter doesn't like to eat it. So i have to add freshpet chicken loaf bits to her food.


Originally when on welllness alone, sometimes she'd eat a mouthfull and not eat the rest. She's quite the stubborn one. I had added some chicken liver bits to increase the taste because even with freshpet she sometimes didn't want to eat.

I had also had added a litteral handfull of brocolli to help with her pooping because when she only ate kibble she would only poop once a day if even, and for her size the poops were tiny tiny and quite dry.

But now with my concoction she poops 3x daily. I sometimes take a siesta later morning as I sort of need it. I have her in my room half of the times because my cousin who I believe to be some kind of sadistic person likes to harass the dogs. He is 12, nearing 13. Soo...I just avoid him.


But this whole ordeal has been causing me some of my sanity because usually I have her on a schedule of her going potty at 7am, then again at either 12 or 1pm. Then again at 3 or 4 pm, then again at 9pm or 10pm. Sometimes if she hasnt done it then I take her out again at 11pm to make 100%sure.

I do it because it works best for me and my dog. I require a lot of sleep soo...

Anywho I wake up from my siesta today and notice my dog didnt even wait for me to take her potty. She went on my carpeted room with loose stools. Even though I had made sure she had done her business well at 7am. She had pooped and peed at 7am. Now she pooped again(around 12).

She pooped in my room yesterday too. It's getting seriously unfunny now. Is it a) possible to litterbox train her using a large covered litterbox, without the litter(as she tends to kick dirt when she does it)?

Maybe just training pads in said litterbox? I want to have peace of mind that she can do stuff without it affecting me...


Yesterday I had slept 30 minutes longer in my siesta and I realized in my half sleepy state that maggie was pawing at my bed. However today she did not even warn me.

If you want measurements of veggies I gave, I used about a dry cup.

P.s. I want to get to the point she will eat, and poop normally. At tops maybe 2 daily poop is okay imho. Her poop was wet too. So I figure to not give her greens for a while. Today my science diet wetfood comes in. I am going to do 25% wet, 75% dry

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Old 06-20-2018, 10:47 AM   #2
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So have you taken into consideration that this is a lot of change over the last few weeks. Food transitions should occur over about a week gradually introducing something new.

I’m only going by your recent posts and it seems to me you’re making changes without the research, time and discussion with a vet or vet nutritionist.

I know you want to do right by your vet but the loose stools are an indication that it may be too much too soon .
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So have you taken into consideration that this is a lot of change over the last few weeks. Food transitions should occur over about a week gradually introducing something new.

I’m only going by your recent posts and it seems to me you’re making changes without the research, time and discussion with a vet or vet nutritionist.

I know you want to do right by your vet but the loose stools are an indication that it may be too much too soon .
oh I was going by a notion i read on dog food labels "do changes small by 25% the first day with new food, after 3rd day do a 50% change, etc" I could even find it on chewy which is one of the places I read that.Plus my vet had told me a similar thing. I didnt think it would had done harm. Should it be longer? Maybe do 10% first 3 days, then 4th day another 10% and so on? or...?
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The changes I started the 3th day of the month when I got freshpet and added a small thin slice as a topper, about 5 days after that I added fresh greens back again in small quantities. and last week I added as a treat the boiled liver.

I always had thought some variety was good for my dog because she seems to get bored of eating the same thing and then refuses to keep eating it. Kibble by itself she wouldn't eat willingly. I've tried 3 different kibble flavors since I got her early spring last year.

Should I spread it out longer? Also since last year I moved out deep into farm lands so vets are kind of far. Drives stress her out to the point she pukes
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Pooing once a day was fine. If she is not potty trained she needs to be kept in a crate when you can't watch her like when your sleeping. If she likes the fresh pet why not just feed the fresh pet?
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Pooing once a day was fine. If she is not potty trained she needs to be kept in a crate when you can't watch her like when your sleeping. If she likes the fresh pet why not just feed the fresh pet?
She liked it, but now she's bored of it. I stopped the freshpet which was only toppings anyways, and used her regular feed as well as some of hill's science diet canned food. She hesitated to try it, but ate it all up an hour later. The mix she's on now is 75% dry, 25% wet. I have not given her any greens or treats today and might make the mix tomorrow to 15% wet, 85% dry. Eventually I want to change her from her current dry mix to a different flavor. Hopefully something with pork. she loves pork.

In the long run I want her on a 50/50 mix of dry and wet with also water added to make it soupy as she doesn't drink as much as she should.

As for potty trained. She was, she just had a relapse or whatever it is called.
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She liked it, but now she's bored of it. I stopped the freshpet which was only toppings anyways, and used her regular feed as well as some of hill's science diet canned food. She hesitated to try it, but ate it all up an hour later. The mix she's on now is 75% dry, 25% wet. I have not given her any greens or treats today and might make the mix tomorrow to 15% wet, 85% dry. Eventually I want to change her from her current dry mix to a different flavor. Hopefully something with pork. she loves pork.

In the long run I want her on a 50/50 mix of dry and wet with also water added to make it soupy as she doesn't drink as much as she should.

As for potty trained. She was, she just had a relapse or whatever it is called.
Be careful leaving wet food out for long periods of time because it will go bad. Like I said before fresh pet and canned food is very high in water content so dogs will drink less when eating those because they are getting water from the food.
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Be careful leaving wet food out for long periods of time because it will go bad. Like I said before fresh pet and canned food is very high in water content so dogs will drink less when eating those because they are getting water from the food.
So its enough?
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So its enough?
Possibly. She drinks absolutely no water?
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Possibly. She drinks absolutely no water?
No and she's kind of testing my patience right now as I have been taking her out and she hasn't pooped except the "gifts" she left in my rooms carpet this morning.... I have been taking her out , walking her around and waiting patiently.


I only want her to poop and pee in one area of the yard for ease of access during snow times.... My backyard is basically a hill/incline on some parts so a bit easy to slip and fall in winter... which mind you I have....

I want my pup to have access to a place to do business but my family thinks a litterbox will stink up the house, plus she might try to eat it. They are somewhat right imho, because all of my friends have cats and their houses smell like cat crap and pee. Even though a few of them clean boxes daily.
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Right now I have her barred in the small kitchen because she only peed and until my mistake resolves itself. I.e. i stopped fiddling with the diet that much in hopes it goes back to normal.... I wont be letting her in my room unless supervised.
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No and she's kind of testing my patience right now as I have been taking her out and she hasn't pooped except the "gifts" she left in my rooms carpet this morning.... I have been taking her out , walking her around and waiting patiently.


I only want her to poop and pee in one area of the yard for ease of access during snow times.... My backyard is basically a hill/incline on some parts so a bit easy to slip and fall in winter... which mind you I have....

I want my pup to have access to a place to do business but my family thinks a litterbox will stink up the house, plus she might try to eat it. They are somewhat right imho, because all of my friends have cats and their houses smell like cat crap and pee. Even though a few of them clean boxes daily.
The food changing I’m sure has up set her stomach and is not her fault. If she drinks absolutely no water what so ever then you need to look first at drying different dishes because she might not like what you have her water in.
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The food changing I’m sure has up set her stomach and is not her fault. If she drinks absolutely no water what so ever then you need to look first at drying different dishes because she might not like what you have her water in.
drying? her dishes as clean. it's not her fault. it just frustrates me because I am trying to do good by her. instead of the other dog who can only have kibble, and no treats except a slice of carrot. Someone told me I should just give her a set feeding schedule, to remove her from free feeding, if she doesn't eat within an hour to remove it and throw it out. then to try again the next feeding schedule.and if she doesnt eat, eventually she would. That I am just over spoiling her, and that's why she's like that.

What I am afraid of is small dogs get hypoglecimia or whatever. I read that somewhere online and in a book- I'd have to track down the book again.

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drying? her dishes as clean. it's not her fault. it just frustrates me because I am trying to do good by her. instead of the other dog who can only have kibble, and no treats except a slice of carrot. Someone told me I should just give her a set feeding schedule, to remove her from free feeding, if she doesn't eat within an hour to remove it and throw it out. then to try again the next feeding schedule.and if she doesnt eat, eventually she would. That I am just over spoiling her, and that's why she's like that.

What I am afraid of is small dogs get hypoglecimia or whatever. I read that somewhere online and in a book- I'd have to track down the book again.
Small breed puppies can get hypoglycemia but adult dogs should not get hypoglycemia and if they do it means something very bad is wrong.
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