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04-06-2015, 03:18 PM | #31 |
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| Actually my Vet recommends and uses this test and as soon as Buster has recovered from his dental I will be going forward with this test as well. We did do the blood test a year ago and have determined some of the environmental and food sensitivities Buster has been dealing with for the last year. I figure between the two tests I will be able to determine a diet plan for him and start home cooked meals and supplements. Funny when Buster was at his dental the facility also housed a Vet Dermatologist. I sat with these owners whose dogs had horrible skin issues as they waited for their expensive prescription pills and picked up their huge bags of grain based food sold by these very specialists. These dogs were long time customers of this specialist and their owners stated that their issues had not gotten better they were just trying to get their dogs to be more comfortable. I would rather spend the money on testing that drugs if I think it might help alleviate Buster's itching.
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04-06-2015, 03:20 PM | #32 |
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| Correct food allergies are not common but food intolerance is common.
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04-06-2015, 07:04 PM | #33 |
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04-07-2015, 03:53 AM | #34 | |
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04-07-2015, 03:55 AM | #35 |
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| And food elimination diets are the way to determine the problem AND fix it. thousands before you have successfully done it.
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04-07-2015, 06:00 AM | #36 | |
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"Today, new studies have revealed that delayed food sensitivity is more accurately identified by measuring food associated IgA or IgM antibodies." (from https://my.imatrixbase.com/clients/1..._to_Gluten.pdf) "Recent studies have proven salivary diagnostics to be a highly accurate form of canine food intolerance testing." (from https://my.imatrixbase.com/clients/1...iagnostics.pdf) And then there is this admission: "Saliva hormone or food antigen testing is a new technology. It's been used only in the last decade and, therefore, is not yet widely accepted by the medical community." (from https://my.imatrixbase.com/clients/1...ce_Testing.pdf) I can't tell whether she is trying to scam people, or whether she thinks she's onto something new and wants to get it into production before it's been scientifically accepted, but either way, it makes me uneasy. | |
04-07-2015, 06:15 AM | #37 | |
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Somewhere, buried in one of Dr. Dodd's articles (which doesn't have any references to peer reviewed papers), Dr. Dodds says this: "Saliva testing also is not readily available in many laboratories. Furthermore, there's room for human error when gathering the saliva sample, as food or blood can easily contaminate the specimen. The good news is saliva collection is noninvasive, painless, relatively inexpensive and convenient for the patient." I take this as an admission that her test may not work, but at least it's harmless, and the only thing you are losing is money. It doesn't exactly inspire confidence. | |
04-07-2015, 06:56 AM | #38 | |
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04-07-2015, 07:57 AM | #39 | ||
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04-07-2015, 09:04 AM | #40 |
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| Actually not useless to me as they showed he had positive results on Salmon, Rabbit, and peas. I had been giving Buster a daily dose of Salmon oil for his skin and in most of the kibble he had been eating had a form of peas in them. Since I have discontinued these items his scratching has decreased markedly. I want to find out his triggers and try to eliminate them from his diet. I also learned he is allergic to honey bees from the blood panel so now I make sure to have benadryl on hand. I would rather use a non invasive testing method to determine food intolerances than placing him on long term medication. I am as entitled to my opinion and my observances as anyone.
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04-07-2015, 11:02 AM | #41 | |
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04-07-2015, 11:44 AM | #42 | |
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Quite right Cathy - I stand corrected - or more accurately sit corrected. The test can not be thought to be valid or not at this point - merely unproven scientifically.
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04-07-2015, 11:49 AM | #43 | |
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That sounds reasonable. But mayhap there is no literature to support her claims. Or she could release the test with a warning that this test has not be rigorously tested for efficacy and accuracy - but prelim clinical work not peer reviewed has shown exciting promise/////
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04-07-2015, 12:03 PM | #44 |
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| I understand your points and will agree that it is not yet scientifically proven but that does not mean that the tests can not be used as a diagnostic tool. I went to a dermatologist in my youth and was prescribed cortisone medication as a treatment. I developed as a side effect a softening of my bone density determined by my Orthopedic surgeon at the time who also consulted with the dermatologist was a result of the cortisone treatment. Since Buster all ready has issues with his bones I prefer to not automatically go the route of medication. I am not against Vet Dermatologists and know that they can help dogs suffering from allergies but why must we always turn to drugs rather than modifying our diets first?
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04-07-2015, 12:41 PM | #45 | |
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