Update and Review of Natures Logic

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by 107barney

I still think companies should tell people of the changes. You have no problem with the changes, but others might. As you pointed out in the past, it seems untrustworthy and almost unethical not to. The packaging may be new, but does it say that the formula is new? If not, seems sketchy.

Yes, I agree with you, I think they should have to put something on the bag about an ingredient change each time there are changes made.

[107barney]

I asked if I missed it on the bag, and they didn't answer that I had. I also asked where they manufacture their food and got no reply. They don't think these are ingredient changes, just "tweaks for the better" and that customers wanted the change from pork blood plasma to lamb plasma. I am not sure I think customers would know the difference between pork and lamb plasma but have no reason to disbelieve him. I will disagree that a change like beef liver to pork liver isn't an ingredient change, and I read that they did that in the beef formula.

[Yorkiemom1]

Originally Posted by 107barney

I asked if I missed it on the bag, and they didn't answer that I had. I also asked where they manufacture their food and got no reply. They don't think these are ingredient changes, just "tweaks for the better" and that customers wanted the change from pork blood plasma to lamb plasma. I am not sure I think customers would know the difference between pork and lamb plasma but have no reason to disbelieve him. I will disagree that a change like beef liver to pork liver isn't an ingredient change, and I read that they did that in the beef formula.

Perhaps you can get them to be forthright and transparent enough to come to the forum and answer some questions or address concerns some people may have with these changes. Of course, they were "tweeks" that were "improvments", according to the company spokesperson.....I agree that I doubt seriously there was an uprising in the consumers for them to change from pork blood plasma to lamb plasma, and I certainly consider a change from beef liver to pork liver as an "ingredient change", and one that could certainly have an adverse affect on some pups.

Everyone must be diligent and if reading ingredient lists is really important to you, then do not ever assume any food you may swear by, is not doing "tweeking" and "adjusting formulas" for the better......this is really important especially if your pup has GI issues or food intolerances, allergies, etc.....these "tweeks" may be normal for dog food companies, but changes in ingredients and formulations, while not blaringly, boldly emblazoned on packaging that changes have been made (perhaps they SHOULD have been!), hopefully the ingredients lists will reflect the changes and it is up to the consumers to read and review and re-assess the ingredient list with EACH bag you buy, to see if the "tweeks" being made are acceptable to them and their pet! If you have selected a pet food formula/company that you trust and entrust that they perhaps know more about formulas and substitutions than perhaps you do, then there is no harm done!

I wish the nutritionist for the company would come and respond to questions about changes they have made, why the changes were made, where they source their individual ingredients, etc......

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by 107barney

I asked if I missed it on the bag, and they didn't answer that I had. I also asked where they manufacture their food and got no reply. They don't think these are ingredient changes, just "tweaks for the better" and that customers wanted the change from pork blood plasma to lamb plasma. I am not sure I think customers would know the difference between pork and lamb plasma but have no reason to disbelieve him. I will disagree that a change like beef liver to pork liver isn't an ingredient change, and I read that they did that in the beef formula.

Are you saying that they told you that they changed from pork to lamb plasma was because customers wanted it? They didn't tell me that, that was said about the cheese change.

[107barney]

Originally Posted by Nancy1999

Are you saying that they told you that they changed from pork to lamb plasma was because customers wanted it? They didn't tell me that, that was said about the cheese change.

Yep! He said:
"Also, due to consumer requests, we change from using porcine plasma to ovine
plasma"

[107barney]

He mentioned cheese to me too. And how it was only 1% in their food ...customers still wanted it removed. 1% seems very tiny an amount for customers to worry about, but I again have no reason to disbelieve what he's saying.

[Yorkiemom1]

Originally Posted by 107barney

He mentioned cheese to me too. And how it was only 1% in their food ...customers still wanted it removed. 1% seems very tiny an amount for customers to worry about, but I again have no reason to disbelieve what he's saying.

Only 1% in their formula.....and CUSTOMERS wanted it removed???? I guess it was not that important in the first place.....what about the customers that wanted the cheese in their diet formula? Did they substitute something else to provide whatever benefit that spot of cheese was adding to the diet, and if so what did they use and where did it come from? Was that man you talked with helpful and enthusiastic about answering your inquiries?

[Russpilot]

First off, God, what stunning little guys you have! Second, I have a documented picky eater but I would love to have her try this as from what you have said about it, I think Bella might like it.