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02-14-2015, 11:07 AM | #1 |
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| Pancreatitis My 15 year old Yorkie had routine labs done 6 months ago that showed he had pancreatitis (normal 400, his 1200). He had a little vomiting, no diarrhea or weight loss. He was active, walking a half mile a day and playful. Started making him meals of chicken, brown rice and veggies with a 2 tablespoons of Royal Canine Gastrointestinal Low Fat canned food as the vet recommended. A month a ago his level was down to 800. No more vomiting. Still active, so he's better. He will be rechecked in 3 months. In 6 weeks we will be gone for 2 weeks and the house sitter will stay with him. I am worried about her feeding him the home made food even if I freeze it. I am thinking he would do best with just the canned food which he loves just to be on the safe side. That way I won't worry about if the chicken is out too long or the veggies aren't cleaned enough. What do you think? We also have a 12 year old overweight (7 pound) female who eats what he does. Neither of them like the kibble food same brand. Suggestions? |
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02-14-2015, 11:39 AM | #2 |
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| I'd have the sitter to come to the house at least twice before you leave to make and feed Chester so both of them can get use to this. I know exactly how you feel. I home cook and we are going to Oahu & Maui for two weeks and were having a couple (friends) who will stay in the house and take care of our three girls and the house, but I am almost sick to my stomach that the youngest stops eating, (she's been a headache getting weight on her ever since she was 12 weeks old), or they won't go out in the yard with the girls to keep an eye on them and such. I just know I will be calling every day to see how things are going.
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02-14-2015, 01:20 PM | #3 |
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| That's a great idea! She's been our "nanny" for 13 years so the fur babies are very used to her but this new feeding plan is new and it's so important, like medicine. Thank you so much for the suggestion. Have a wonderful vacation! |
02-14-2015, 01:27 PM | #4 |
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| Pancreatitis :-( So sorry your poor fur boy has this disease. But glad that his numbers are improving with treatment and that he is behaving normally and seems well. But 800 is still fairly high and he still would benefit from the low fat RC food in my opinion. If I were you I would keep to the RC Low Fat food alone as that is what I have always fed after an attack. That will be an easy regimen for the sitter to feed while you are away. If your 12 yr old girl is overweight, it would seem a good idea to feed her the same RC food too as it is low fat. Enjoy your trip and hoping your boy gets completely over the P disease soon with normal numbers. |
02-14-2015, 02:14 PM | #5 |
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| I was feeling like I was a being a better mother by making his food rather than giving him canned food (much like I did with my child). But your kind post has just alleviated all guilt! It's canned RC from now (and they love it) You've made my day! Thank you so very very much. |
02-14-2015, 04:29 PM | #6 |
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| I feed home cooked food and have no problems using sitters to feed. The chicken diet is lower in fat than the RC so I'd be reluctant to use that and set him off while you're gone. I would stay with the current food. I personally would switch him off brown rice and use white. I also have dogs who are old and one is very fat restricted for the same issue.
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02-15-2015, 10:55 AM | #8 |
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| Having fed William just canned RC last night, this morning he wouldn't touch it and I was worried I'd upset his tummy. I put chicken and rice down and at first wouldn't eat it either, but did eat it all about 20 min later. In checking with the RC can, it seems that all cans of the same product are not created equally. There are minimums and "not more thans". My husband, how is a pediatrician, tried to figure out an exact amount (and he's pretty good with that sort of thing with premature baby food needs) and he couldn't. That being said, a medium skinless chicken breast has 52 grams of protein and 6 grams of fat, considerably less fat than in the RC low fat canned food. How confusing. Bottom line, I think I will listen to William and stick with the chicken/rice/veggie food with a tablespoon of RC on top. While Lucy does not have P, she does have hyperlipidemia, so this diet is good for her also. Thank you all so much for your help. What a gem of a site. I'm learning a lot and hope to be able to contribute some advice as well. |
02-15-2015, 11:29 AM | #9 |
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| P food Sorry William would not eat the canned alone, but happy you have found a diet combination that works. My dog would always eat the prescription canned even if sick, but all dogs are different. A few weeks on the low fat canned cleared up my dog's P issues and the value came down to 93, then soon after to 63. If he appears a little picky still and the cPL number is still greater than 400, could it be he still has mild Pancreatitis! My dog had P symptoms with a value of 399. Perhaps a Snap cPL test at the vet might check whether he is totally better? Good to hear he is doing well and hope he is over the P. Thanks for the update |
02-15-2015, 11:31 AM | #10 |
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| I use Trader Joe's Ice Glazed Frozen Chicken Breast Tenderloins with white rice, vegetables, and a supplement for Katie. For a 26 gram serving, they have 1.5 grams of fat, but they have a little added sodium (75 mg), so I don't know if that's an issue. I used to use brown rice until I read it's more difficult for dogs to digest brown rice. I have no experience with pancreatitis, but I know the struggle to keep a dog healthy and lean. Katie is six years old today. I hope William continues to improve and that Lucy does well too.
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02-15-2015, 07:23 PM | #11 | |
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I really think you should consider changing to white rice from brown for this pancreatitis dog. Brown rice is not low residue enough for dogs with this problem. I would also be careful w/ vegetables and make sure they are cooked until he is no longer smoldering with pancreatitis. When I travel, I make food in little zip lock snack bags - one bag per meal per dog. Everything is weighed out and portioned accordingly. My sitter defrosts the food and then adds their supplement to the warmed food. It works out pretty well for us this way.
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02-15-2015, 07:25 PM | #12 |
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| Also how much chicken are you feeding him? Excess protein can be an issue in pancreatitis dogs too.
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02-15-2015, 08:43 PM | #13 |
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| Each dog gets 2 heaping teaspoons of chicken and 1 of rice. I am no longer giving them brown rice. They seem to like sweet potatoes and Lucy likes any kind of vegetable but William no longer eats peas, green beans or carrots. Help! Also, what kind o supplement do you use? My vet suggested "missing link" but it's a powder and there are no specific directions for simply supplementing for home made diet. We live in a small town and pet store is not helpful. I am trying so hard to keep them healthy. So you freeze the chicken, rice and veggie in a bag all together? |
02-16-2015, 04:31 AM | #15 | |
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I would give William white potatoes and chicken breast. I would try canned cooked (no salt added) carrots and peas and see if he goes for it. I have one dog who clearly prefers canned cooked peas to frozen ones. Yes I freeze their meals together in the mini snack bags. I write their names on each one using a permanent marker.
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