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05-15-2014, 08:05 PM | #151 | |
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05-17-2014, 06:52 AM | #152 | |
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My original point, which you seem to always miss, was that it is not a terribly complicated issue. If we as humans can feed ourselves without a great deal of study we can also learn how to feed our pets without depending on a multi-billion dollar a year company to do it for us. You choose to feed your pet whatever you wish. Why must you always denigrate anyone who has a different opinion than yours? I know of vets that promote commercial dog foods as being the best to feed and I also know vets that promote home preparation of pet food. The subject has endless opinions. Everyone chooses what they think is best. I appreciate the dentist that puts information about pet food ingredients out for public viewing. It isn't rocket science to read ingredient lists and learn what those ingredients actually represent. It is more information than most consumers ever get from a dog food bag. But it is still just information that people can take or leave. Personally, I know a lot of people appreciate learning more about what is actually in what they feed their pets. | |
05-17-2014, 07:08 AM | #153 | |
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05-17-2014, 07:48 AM | #154 | |
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Sorry you think that dog nutrition is so much more scientific than human nutrition. Dog's bodies must be so much more complex than the human body! The health care professionals I work with do send their patients to nutritionists. Yes, doctors send their patients to a person called a nutritionist that has much less education than the health care professional has, especially after they get a patient with diabetes, heart disease, or any of the many food induced diseases people suffer from when they eat processed foods. They then sadly return to the office because the nutritionist advised them to eat fresh fruits and vegetables and prepare healthy meals instead of fast food and products out of a box that they are accustomed to. Dogs must have highly complex bodies made to exist on highly processed foods filled with preservatives and that can sit on a store shelf for months at a time. No wonder we need multi-billion dollar pet food companies to feed these complicated beings for us They don't need fresh foods at all. | |
05-17-2014, 07:54 AM | #155 |
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| Gracie, I feed home cooked and have for 14 years.
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05-17-2014, 08:54 AM | #156 |
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| There is NO way I will look at ingredients first after seeing all of the recalls that have happened over the years. I will personally stick with the companies I trust. Ingredients come second. I have said it many times.....all the great ingredients in the world won't help if the wrong company puts them in the bag and/or can. I don't follow the dentist, but I think someone has mentioned that he has ranked foods high that were recalled.
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05-17-2014, 09:12 AM | #157 | |
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And while I do believe nutrition as a whole can be/is very complicated, in SOME ways it's almost very simple. The reason, IMO, we as humans have so many obesity issues is simply because of all the food that is available to us. If ALL we had available to us food-wise was 'natural' foods. I have no doubt we'd be healthier as a society. It's so hard to judge because back then, we also had more problems with disease, so many were dying younger than we do today. I wish there was some definite answer how long dogs lived in the 1700's and 1800's as well. They weren't getting balanced meals, I can tell you that. I do have a legitimate question - when did dogs start needing these perfectly balanced meals? Obviously, throughout thousands of years, they weren't eating balanced meals, with the proper minerals, proteins, etc and somehow managed to survive. For how long and how healthy I don't know. But I'm just genuinely curious what makes feeding a dog chicken, other meats, and veggies and carbs every day without a supplement make them lack nutrients somehow?
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05-17-2014, 09:16 AM | #158 | |
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Because he's a DENTIST Seriously, I just don't get why anyone would take advice other than to brush and floss from a dentist. There are so many outrageous "home/natural" remedies and cures put out on the internet that people will try. When Al Gore invented the internet he couldn't possibly foreseen all of the consequences of his genius undertaking.
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05-17-2014, 09:20 AM | #159 |
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| Harping on the fact that he's a dentist is sort of getting old. I don't like the website much, I think he doesn't know enough about dog food/nutrition to hold such a 'highly ranked' site, but I still don't see how him being a dentist changes anything. He COULD be a dentist with a degree in animal nutrition (which, he is not, but I'm just saying... the fact that he's a dentist alone... doesn't make him unqualified right off the bat). And dentists do a lot more than brush and floss your teeth. You act like becoming a dentist is an easy feat.
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05-17-2014, 09:44 AM | #161 | |
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I am NOT an expert in nutrition and quite frankly have no interest in it. That is why I rely on vets and vet nutritionists to help me make choices for my pups.
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05-17-2014, 09:50 AM | #162 | |
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I simply don't go to my dentist to ask him what to feed my pups. I believe the guy is a master at marketing and that is his motivation in ranking dog foods. Watching that video of his where is is selling his information about dog food clinched it for me. Again, I will stick with experts in the field of dogs and animal/dog nutrition.
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05-17-2014, 09:50 AM | #163 | |
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But that wasn't really my point. I wasn't even asking you specifically. Just in general, I am genuinely curious when dogs began suddenly requiring balanced diets. I'd be interested on the history of that is all. Obviously at one point in time, dogs were not getting "balanced" diets. So I'd be curious how healthy they were and what their lifespan was.
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| She could also rank the electric toothbrushes and flosses. Heck, she could go crazy and even rank the fluoride rinses.
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