What to feed for optimal health

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by dawn27

Good lord . . Who would of thought that what we/anyone feeds their dogs would stir up such a dramatic conversation. I am just at a loss with words and have no further comment other than how very sad that even a conversation about dog food took a turn for the worse !

I suggest that you read the entire thread to get a better understanding of what took place.

No one is causing drama over what another person is feeding. The drama came from another source...the same one that told you where to find this thread.

It is sad that now people will jump on the bandwagon...that is what is sad. The bandwagon has NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT PEOPLE FEED THEIR DOGS.

[107barney]

Originally Posted by dawn27

Good lord . . Who would of thought that what we/anyone feeds their dogs would stir up such a dramatic conversation. I am just at a loss with words and have no further comment other than how very sad that even a conversation about dog food took a turn for the worse !

I agree.

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by barneysmommmy

I'm curious. For those of you who feed raw, how do you determine the serving size? Right now mine are on hills because it's the only thing we can find that doesn't cause Anna to itch. Also she was over weight and this food has her on the right track. Her energy level is great. BUT Barney won't eat his kibble now, he will only eat hers. He's underweight and definitely doesn't need to be on hills metabolic. I looked up raw diet, but don't really trust what I saw. We purchase beefalo, which is naturally low fat, locally from a family that doesn't use any pesticides with their beef. I wonder if I could use this to feed my dogs. Can someone explain in more detail what the raw diet is like?

You might want to start a thread asking about this because it seems there is a force that is within this thread now that will prevent any productive conversations. There are plenty of raw feeders who can give you this information!

[barneysmommmy]

Originally Posted by ladyjane

You might want to start a thread asking about this because it seems there is a force that is within this thread now that will prevent any productive conversations. There are plenty of raw feeders who can give you this information!

Thanks. I will probably just check with my vet. I thought it might be solution for my picky eater.

[dawn27]

Originally Posted by ladyjane

I suggest that you read the entire thread to get a better understanding of what took place.

No one is causing drama over what another person is feeding. The drama came from another source...the same one that told you where to find this thread.

It is sad that now people will jump on the bandwagon...that is what is sad. The bandwagon has NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT PEOPLE FEED THEIR DOGS.

There is no bandwagon here and I don't need You to tell me what is and is not Drama. Believe me I've read enough to know when its Drama and I've been around long enough to know where it comes from. Plus, No one told be where to find this thread, I'm a pretty smart cookie and I found it all on my very own. Didn't take much to figure it out when I saw the posts on the rant thread.


What I think is sad is that once again someone asked a question and it gets totally and I do mean totally blown out of proportion and taken off track. I sure hope that the OP got some answers but when you have to weed through all of this other crap I cant see how. Ridiculous !!

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by dawn27

There is no bandwagon here and I don't need You to tell me what is and is not Drama. Believe me I've read enough to know when its Drama and I've been around long enough to know where it comes from. Plus, No one told be where to find this thread, I'm a pretty smart cookie and I found it all on my very own. Didn't take much to figure it out when I saw the posts on the rant thread.


What I think is sad is that once again someone asked a question and it gets totally and I do mean totally blown out of proportion and taken off track. I sure hope that the OP got some answers but when you have to weed through all of this other crap I cant see how. Ridiculous !!

Hmmmm what question was that? I did not see a question...I just saw a bunch of facts posted. Facts that I felt were without merit. Edited to add: do you mean that last what would you choose"" after saying kibble is pretty much poison? I did say what I choose.

[Lovetodream88]

Originally Posted by chachi

Yes that might be nice but it would also be good for you to reflect and see where you add to the drama the drama was here before I ever entered the thread unfortunately

You can believe what you want I didn't think there was any drama until people where being told how to post because it gets people upset. I'm gonna say it again I was not upset about someone feeding raw I was upset that an opinion was being called a fact. I have nothing against anyone and I really like and enjoy Jenny.

[Lovetodream88]

Originally Posted by nanahas3

I think that genetics do play a big factor in longevity. I have tried many methods of feeding and I like all of you hope my pups live very long lives. We had one member a while back who's pup celebrated his 20th birthday and she said that although she hated to admit it here that she fed it EVERYTHING. I like most of you try to be really picky with what my two get to eat and I think all of us do what we feel is the very best for our pups. It would be great if there was a perfect method of feeding them. But getting mad and upset because someone doesn't agree with our methods does probably more damage to our pups than some other things as I am sure they sense our stress levels. Mine do anyway. Now I could understand all the arguments if someone said feed them grapes or onions every day but I do have trouble understanding threads like these, where we all love our pups and want to do what is best for them.

The argument wasn't about raw vs other food it was about an opinion being called fact.

[Lovetodream88]

Originally Posted by ladyjane

I have more than one reason for being here....and one of them quite frankly is to share knowledge.

There are many people who believe every single thing they read and I believe that when something is posted that is not true, it behooves us to make that clear. There was a thread once that told people to feed cotton balls and milk to their pups if they swallowed glass....I was not about to let that go without comments. If MY pups eat glass, I am going to a vet! Same thing here.... The OP made it sound like kibble is poison and that is just NOT true. Another person came along and said that raw food is BEST and that is not true either. So....I posted and I will continue to do so when I see such comments.

I see a LOT of threads about raw food that I never comment on but they don't come across as saying that is the ONLY acceptable option for pups. When I see someone saying something that I believe not to be true, I feel I have a responsibility to say so. If people cannot hack that, I really don't know what to tell them. This forum is not one where you say something and that's that...if people want that, they should go to Twitter or start their own blog and not allow comments from other people!

Oh, and BTW there is only one person I see who appears to be mad and upset. I really thought it was a pretty decent discussion prior to the interruption. I realize Jenny was frustrated, but we were trying to explain to her...NOT jump on her as we were accused of doing.

Exactly you say things how I wish I could. I could care less about downing raw I just want facts out there and when something false is said it should be called out or some people will read it and think its correct. How else are people supposed to learn things? You have to be open to learning when posting on this board because no one knows it all.

[Lovetodream88]

Originally Posted by Teegy

Chunks of butter that's insanity. I saw someone feed their dog mcdonalds fries and Big Mac on the subway one day. My heart sank

One of the dogs I grew up with who is still kicking at 13 years old was bought from and Amish farm is some kind of beagle mix who loves french fries and my dad gives them to her all the time she has been fed that way her whole life. When she went to the vet for her leg we thought the worse that she was going to have to be put to sleep the vet said she is extremely healthy and just had a sprain. Food is only part of what makes a healthy dog there are many other things that go into that as well.

[Lovetodream88]

Originally Posted by ladyjane

I suggest that you read the entire thread to get a better understanding of what took place.

No one is causing drama over what another person is feeding. The drama came from another source...the same one that told you where to find this thread.

It is sad that now people will jump on the bandwagon...that is what is sad. The bandwagon has NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT PEOPLE FEED THEIR DOGS.

Very true any argument that there was before the drama started was that an opinion is not a fact.

[Lovetodream88]

Originally Posted by dawn27

There is no bandwagon here and I don't need You to tell me what is and is not Drama. Believe me I've read enough to know when its Drama and I've been around long enough to know where it comes from. Plus, No one told be where to find this thread, I'm a pretty smart cookie and I found it all on my very own. Didn't take much to figure it out when I saw the posts on the rant thread.


What I think is sad is that once again someone asked a question and it gets totally and I do mean totally blown out of proportion and taken off track. I sure hope that the OP got some answers but when you have to weed through all of this other crap I cant see how. Ridiculous !!

The op didn't ask a question they just said how good raw is if I am remembering right.

[nanahas3]

Taylor what some call fact, some of us would disagree with, for instance the evolution theory, some say is scientific fact, I prefer to believe in my faith. I am not sure if there is a fact about raw or processed food on either side that has been 100% proven. I think it is wonderful that we all state our opinions here. I do know that humans used to live a lot longer before we started using processed food ourselves but who knows. I feed mine kibble because it works best for them but I am all for those who feed raw and cooked. I know that maximo's dogs are beautiful as are many others that feed raw. And like with Linda's case many dogs require completely different diets than others. I guess what I am getting at is, what you or I might consider fact, to others could be construed as our opinion. I just don't see the point in arguing over whether it is fact or opinion, there are so many bigger issues in life that we could find to ponder on. God bless all of you and hope you all have a wonderful evening.

[Lovetodream88]

Originally Posted by nanahas3

Taylor what some call fact, some of us would disagree with, for instance the evolution theory, some say is scientific fact, I prefer to believe in my faith. I am not sure if there is a fact about raw or processed food on either side that has been 100% proven. I think it is wonderful that we all state our opinions here. I do know that humans used to live a lot longer before we started using processed food ourselves but who knows. I feed mine kibble because it works best for them but I am all for those who feed raw and cooked. I know that maximo's dogs are beautiful as are many others that feed raw. And like with Linda's case many dogs require completely different diets than others. I guess what I am getting at is, what you or I might consider fact, to others could be construed as our opinion. I just don't see the point in arguing over whether it is fact or opinion, there are so many bigger issues in life that we could find to ponder on. God bless all of you and hope you all have a wonderful evening.

The problem was that raw food is the best was what was being called fact but its not a fact it's an opinion it was nothing against raw food. It does matter though especially for readers who don't know.

[Island Girl]

There is no "one size fits all" food. It is good to have information from both sides but I also think that is why it can be confusing as well.

My experience: We started feeding raw because Sachi didn't like kibble. We tried RC, BB, Solid Gold, Wellness, Acana, and Orijen. She didn't like to eat it and we struggled to feed her the proper amount 3X a day. There were a few occasions that we had to give Nutrical because she wasn't eating enough and I would notice wobbly walking and shaking. We switched her to premade raw when she was about 6 months and we haven't had any problems with her eating since. It works for us. IF there comes a time she needs to modify her diet for any reason, I would have no qualms to do what is in her best interest. My previous yorkie was solely on kibble.

On the flip side, my parents have a terrier mix that has been on kibbles-n-bits, gravy train, purina dog chow, alpo, etc. Most of these are probably 1 star foods. She at a normal weight and is now 20 years old. Never had any major issues either. I pray Sachi lives to be 20!