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01-10-2014, 08:05 PM | #1 |
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| Question about Primal I emailed them, but wanted to know if anyone else knew... I'm feeding Princess & Momo Duck frozen & Mimi & Turbo freeze dried Lamb. I noticed that lamb has Lamb Hearts, Lamb Livers as the 1st 2 ingredients in both frozen & freeze dried. Duck has Duck, Duck Neck, Duck wings for the 1st 3 ingredients... so where's the Lamb?
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01-11-2014, 08:39 AM | #2 |
Furbutts = LOVE Donating Member Moderator | Just looked at the ingredients too. You're asking, specifically, where the 'flesh meat' is...? I'm thinking either they don't include it, or, they're getting a small amount of flesh meat along w/ those ground lamb bones. That's my guess anyway. I wouldn't worry too much bc the liver and heart would be very nutrient rich, and the heart would provide muscle meat...both liver/heart would include tissue.
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01-11-2014, 10:43 AM | #3 | |
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Mimi & Turbo will not eat the frozen version, they sniff it, suspiciously slowly puts it in their mouf & spits it out! Of course, Momo is there to pick it up loll. They're LOVING the freeze dried, I reconstitute it in water & while it's being moistened, they twirl, wail whine, stand on their hind legs...beg dancing.
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01-11-2014, 01:32 PM | #4 |
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| I have been using Natures Variety freeze dried raw for about a month now. Was using the Stella and Chewy's as a topper. So I am mixing weruva with the NV kibble/raw bites and Lexi is gobbling it up most of the time. I am liking it and it seems she is too. I think it is pretty good food too. |
01-11-2014, 08:34 PM | #5 |
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| I would be interested to know too! We tried the lamb in the sample pack, but I haven't purchased a big bag yet. We just picked up Turkey and Sardine today. Sachi has done great on the frozen raw formulas, been wanting to try the freeze dried some day. Never thought I would be a raw feeder, but Sachi struggled on kibble from Blue Buffalo, Royal Canin, Wellness, Acana and Orijen. Once we started on the raw, no eating problems at all.
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01-12-2014, 07:19 AM | #6 | |
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01-12-2014, 09:38 AM | #7 | ||
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| Have not heard back from them yet, thinking of dropping them another email...I know there's many misconceptions about raw food in general, so thought I'd post this blog by Dr Dodds. It was very easy for me to understand & comprehend (is that the same thing?). She explains HPP (high pressure processing) perfectly. Primal & Nature's Variety uses HPP, while Stella & Chewy's uses HHP (hydrostatic high pressure). Part 1: Dr. Jean Dodds' Pet Health Resource Blog | Raw versus Cooked Foods: Perhaps the Most Controversial Current Topic in the Pet World (Part I) Part 2: Dr. Jean Dodds' Pet Health Resource Blog | Raw versus cooked foods: What is HPP and why does it matter? (Part II) Quote:
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Freeze dried is great for use when traveling too!
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01-12-2014, 01:31 PM | #8 |
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| Oh gosh, today is Sunday...IDW I thought it was Monday & was hoping for their email in my inbox. I looked up Primal freeze dried on dogfoodadvisor & the Lamb & Chicken are 4 stars...wonders why. Not that I go by the ratings...
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01-12-2014, 01:41 PM | #9 |
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| I wonder if it's because the protein % is lower. You know how DFA is about protein levels. From what I've read on that site, they've also starting taking into consideration things like protein coming from peas and stuff like that and lowered some ratings of other foods or specific formulas in certain lines (Fromm's grain-free comes to mind as one they dropped the score on). Oh well...we use a lot of "3 and 4 star" rated foods anyway |
01-12-2014, 02:07 PM | #10 | |
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| Now I am reading myself confused...apparently HPP & Sodium Selenite in Primal is controversial! Quote:
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01-12-2014, 02:19 PM | #11 | |
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And I think most if not all freeze-dried foods have the sodium selenite in them. I need to do more research on that ingredient...I've noticed that a lot of people mention it being an undesirable addition but I'm not too familiar with it. Almost every commercial food has something funky in it, huh? I try not to micro-analyze too much...I figure that incorporating a variety of high quality freeze-dried or canned food with good kibble (despite some controversial ingredients) into my pup's diet is still better than just feeding dog chow...it can give you a headache sometimes though! | |
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01-12-2014, 03:48 PM | #13 |
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| I feed locally raised lamb often. The lamb heart is the most nutritious and affordable cut, apart from lamb organs. Lamb breast is slightly more expensive, but in no way should you think that feeding lamb heart is questionable. It's excellent.
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01-12-2014, 04:03 PM | #14 |
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| Thank you for your valuable insight! I wasn't questioning the use of hearts...I was wondering why the Lamb (& Beef) formulas don't have the fleshy meat part of Lamb...like that iconic commercial 'where's the beef?!' I don't have a problem w/it nor am I complaining, I just want to know why.
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